On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Hilaire Fernandes hila...@ofset.org wrote:
Mariano,
As Stephane mentionned, my proposal is quite close the a prexisting one
related to parcel and fast code loading.
I would live we merge those two proposal in one better proposal. I don't
like much duplication
On the Application Page the answer to question 6 wrongly links to
http://esug2010.esug.org/ideas.html instead of
http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas.html
Is there a way to vote for ideas?
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.comwrote:
On the Application Page the answer to question 6 wrongly links to
http://esug2010.esug.org/ideas.html instead of
http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas.html
Thanks Geert, I have just fix it.
Is there a way to vote for
Hi,
I suppose that the class FieldNode should be removed. It is a Tweak hack:
FieldNode handles field access in Tweak, e.g. self fieldName := foo
= self fieldName: foo.
it is used only in Encoder #init:context:notifying: where it
supposes nil offset. There's no such case in Pharo.
Cheers
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i'm not sure this email came through whilst the list was down
sunday/monday so i am reposting by request. i will add some further
content at the end
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I have dug around the network problem (OS X) in Pharo 1.0. I am
convinced #useOldNetwork = true
On 3/9/2010 10:08 AM, Michael Roberts wrote:
So now my conclusion is firmly we have to take a step back and
simplify. for pharo 1.0 unless we have someone with a lot of time i
do not feel we can untangle the resolver and socket code. We should
As the one originally being responsible for
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Is there a way to vote for ideas?
be a mentor ;)
Seriously. This is a complicated subject that I am not sure what to do. In
previous Squeak GSoC (2007 and 2008) only the mentors vote for the
project.
Suppose there were 20 projects, and Google gave Squeak
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
This is not the official job announce but just to give some hints and that
you can prepare yourself to
- move to France (one hour from paris, 1h30 from London, 35 min from
Brussels)
- try a lot
Cool! With Alien working on Win32 we now have it on all
major platforms (windows, linux, mac)
I send this mail CC to the squeak-dev/pharo-dev list so
others are able to try the plugin on Win32 and give feedback.
This mail also goes to vm-dev list and I hope one of the
vm-maintainers (Andreas,
El mar, 09-03-2010 a las 09:08 +, Michael Roberts escribió:
i'm not sure this email came through whilst the list was down
sunday/monday so i am reposting by request. i will add some further
content at the end
=
I have dug around the
I haven't read the chapter yet, but there is something that bothers me a
little about the Exception hierarchy... what I've seen lately is that
Exceptions are not used only as exceptions but as a why to get context
information (for example Seaside with WACurrentRequestContext), notify about
an
For reference, Vista reports that the following are invalid characters:
\ / : * ?|
Regards, Gary
- Original Message -
From: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
To: Pharo Development Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject:
hi Hernan,
You're very right saying that exception are often abused. In Java, you
have a class Throwable.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 9 Mar 2010, at 08:10, Hernan Wilkinson wrote:
I haven't read the chapter yet, but there is something that bothers
me a little about the Exception hierarchy...
Thanks,
I opened a Mantis report to track this for the VM developers
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7475
You can attach patches to the Mantis report (or I'll try to collect
them from the previous posts, but I'm short of time this week).
Andreas can reply WRT the Windows patches. FYI, Ian
Rather than ScriptLoader it appears to be a Monticello bug/feature...
In PharoCore-1.1-11254 merging Polymorph-Widgets-gvc.109 from SqueakSource
doesn't pull in
PasteUpMorphrestoreMorphicDisplay.
In fact, after merge it will say no changes upon attempted remerge,
despite the obvious
Good idea. Write the proposal and send it to me :)
In addition, I think you could demonsrtrate why it makes sense for example,
to have stats within the framework. The GSoC is done with AidaWeb and
yesterdays Janko told me there is a stats page automatically done where you
can see the requests,
Yes. Administrative tools for Seaside would be an excellent project.
Julian
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Maarten MOSTERT
maarten.most...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
Mariano,
This is a very good initiative !
I don't think what other peoples opinion is about this, but personnally I
would
How do I get my hands on the Linux plugin?
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Den 09.03.2010 12:54, skrev Schwab,Wilhelm K:
How do I get my hands on the Linux plugin?
Javier documented the journey to a buildable plugin quite extensively on
the list. So either read and learn from his missteps in the thread
Trying to build alien plugin in linux, or ask him for a
Den 09.03.2010 14:38, skrev Adrian Lienhard:
I was just puzzled why CrLfFileStream defaultToLF does not work until I
figured that CrLfFileStream new returns an instance of a different class:
CrLfFileStream classnew
^ (MultiByteFileStream new) wantsLineEndConversion: true; yourself.
The only thing I do not like is going back to when addresses were just byte
arrays. I think we should probably do that in the interest of time, but we in
fact need to go the other way (certainly for 1.1), toward an InternetAddress
class with aspects for address and host name (allowing lazy
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 16:10, John O'Keefe
wembley.instantiati...@gmail.com wrote:
I am willing to co-mentor a Grease project and/or a portable TCPIP
implementation (we will need this for the OpenSSL project anyway).
I can contribute the GNU Smalltalk TCP/IP implementation under
whatever
I was just puzzled why CrLfFileStream defaultToLF does not work until I
figured that CrLfFileStream new returns an instance of a different class:
CrLfFileStream classnew
^ (MultiByteFileStream new) wantsLineEndConversion: true; yourself.
Does somebody know what the point is? I really
I'd be willing to apply. But i'm not sure if i fit for it.
On 9 March 2010 17:15, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
This is not the official job announce but just to give some hints and that
you can
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 18:53, stephane ducasse
stephane.duca...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks thanks thanks thanks for a refresh on that!
Thanks!
Stef, instead of thanking five times, why don't you try to do
something constructive?
The GPLv3 includes a system of granting Additional Permissions.
El lun, 08-03-2010 a las 21:36 +0100, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Hi guys
Some good news :)
Very good indeed.
Some questions?
- Is french required (A1 DELF or something like that) or English is
enough?
- Is just for single persons or married ones with kids are allowed?
- Do you have some
Well Michael is dropping by for a visit. I think we'll reserve a few hours to
figure out the technical side
of what the proper answer is when you want to know what your IP and interface
in use is. Either this
is easy to do and *fixes* all the hassles, or unlikely...
From what I gather this is
Hi guys
registerStandardExternalDropHandlers is not invoked from the class initialize
and I was wondering if
one of you know why.
Right now we have:
ExternalDropHandler class initialize
ExternalDropHandler initialize
self resetRegisteredHandlers.
self
stephane ducasse wrote:
Hi yanni
I wanted to know if you can tell us what means (unstable) in the report summary
http://hudson.jooshr.org/job/Pharo1.1/81/
is it because the tests cannot run?
Here's my interpretation.
The status of the last build (the big ball in the first column) is
I guess the registerHandler: bits should move to
registerStandardExternalDropHandlers.
Even after cleanUp you'd want them, I think.
Most of the users of ExternalDropHandler actually call the initialize
instead of cleanUp for doing clean up...
Regards, Gary
- Original Message -
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.comwrote:
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Is there a way to vote for ideas?
be a mentor ;)
Seriously. This is a complicated subject that I am not sure what to do.
In
previous Squeak GSoC (2007 and 2008) only the
Paolo,
Perhaps I'm getting this out of context, but you have done something *very*
difficult to do: you've offended me (on Stef's behalf). Asking Stef to do
something constructive is like asking asking a shark to swim.
As for GPL in any variant, I have never trusted it, and see no justifiable
hey, you are right, I forgot about that in Java.
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexan...@bergel.euwrote:
hi Hernan,
You're very right saying that exception are often abused. In Java, you have
a class Throwable.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 9 Mar 2010, at 08:10, Hernan
NB: I switch to Pharo
Normally when you want to deprecate a method and discourage people
from using it you need only insert a self deprecated: description
line into it. When someone invokes such a method, they receive a
warning of its deprecation listing specifically its name and class.
For me there are much more important things to fix or make better :)
Stef
I haven't read the chapter yet, but there is something that bothers me a
little about the Exception hierarchy... what I've seen lately is that
Exceptions are not used only as exceptions but as a why to get context
Thanks.
Do you have a snippet to remove it cleanly?
Stef
On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi,
I suppose that the class FieldNode should be removed. It is a Tweak hack:
FieldNode handles field access in Tweak, e.g. self fieldName := foo
= self fieldName: foo.
it is
thanks!
I should write a filter to scan for these characters in the package name
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2124
Stef
On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
For reference, Vista reports that the following are invalid characters:
\ / : * ?|
Excellent!
Thanks!
Stef
On Mar 9, 2010, at 1:16 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
Thanks,
I opened a Mantis report to track this for the VM developers
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7475
You can attach patches to the Mantis report (or I'll try to collect
them from the previous posts, but
It would be good to add that to the method and class comment.
Henrik?
Stef
On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote:
Den 09.03.2010 14:38, skrev Adrian Lienhard:
I was just puzzled why CrLfFileStream defaultToLF does not work until I
figured that CrLfFileStream new returns an
thanks for investigating that.
It seems to me that MC has some dark corners full of gremlins
Stef
On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
Rather than ScriptLoader it appears to be a Monticello bug/feature...
In PharoCore-1.1-11254 merging Polymorph-Widgets-gvc.109 from SqueakSource
Some questions?
- Is french required (A1 DELF or something like that) or English is
enough?
English is enough (to your own risk :).
Marcus does not speak french, mariano neither.
- Is just for single persons or married ones with kids are allowed?
We pay only the person working but you
Thanks!
This is also a dream for us because in the life of a researcher having an
engineer is rare.
Stef
On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:04 AM, Andrey Larionov wrote:
Oh. Why i come in magic world of Smalltalk too late (have no necessary
experience at the moment). It's job of my dream in very beautiful
Yes it was my impression too.
Stef
On Mar 9, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
I guess the registerHandler: bits should move to
registerStandardExternalDropHandlers.
Even after cleanUp you'd want them, I think.
Most of the users of ExternalDropHandler actually call the initialize
Thanks mike for the update.
Stef
So now my conclusion is firmly we have to take a step back and
simplify. for pharo 1.0 unless we have someone with a lot of time i
do not feel we can untangle the resolver and socket code. We should
As the one originally being responsible for integrating
Excellent!
Have fun... and beers from us :)
Stef
On Mar 9, 2010, at 5:25 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:
Well Michael is dropping by for a visit. I think we'll reserve a few hours to
figure out the technical side
of what the proper answer is when you want to know what your IP and interface
in
I'd be willing to apply. But i'm not sure if i fit for it.
Why?
You do not drink beers?
Me neither but I survive eating black chocolate.
Stef
On 9 March 2010 17:15, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
On 9 March 2010 23:19, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
I'd be willing to apply. But i'm not sure if i fit for it.
Why?
You do not drink beers?
Nope :)
Me neither but I survive eating black chocolate.
So , count me in :)
Stef
On 9 March 2010 17:15, Marcus Denker
11255
-
- added tests for the compiler to test shadowing of self, super, thisContext,
true, false and nil. Thanks guys - we know you :)
- Issue 2086: Introduce a cleanUp/cleanUp: protocol from squeak / keith idea!
MyClass classcleanUp: aggressive
This (class-side) method
Stef, instead of thanking five times, why don't you try to do
something constructive?
do you think that pharo is not constructive enough :)
fair enough. :-)
Paolo what I learned is that I want to be as far as possible from license
problems.
I know this is naive but I hate licenses! They
Dear Smalltalkers of all dialects!
In a time where we are bombarded with information and may be
misinformed :),
some of you may not notice that ESUG is doing a great job pushing Smalltalk, we
thought that it is good
to get a gentle reminder on the main actions ESUG performed in the
David,
The rebuttal: if it has time/ability to write information all over part of the
screen, it can open a file and make sure it leaves a trace of what happened.
Right? The current vms (Windows and Linux) appear to be totally disinterested
in logging crashes, and that needs to change.
Bill
On 9 March 2010 23:49, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
Dear Smalltalkers of all dialects!
In a time where we are bombarded with information and may be
misinformed :),
some of you may not notice that ESUG is doing a great job pushing Smalltalk,
we thought that it
stephane ducasse wrote:
http://hudson.jooshr.org/job/Pharo1.1/81/
is it because the tests cannot run?
It builds and runs the tests now (with some failure reports).
In build#82, I saw in the stack trace some EOCD message, which usually
means some kind of package missing, corruption,
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
wrote:
11255
-
- added tests for the compiler to test shadowing of self, super,
thisContext, true, false and nil. Thanks guys - we know you :)
- Issue 2086: Introduce a cleanUp/cleanUp: protocol from squeak
2010/3/9 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
11255
-
- added tests for the compiler to test shadowing of self, super,
thisContext, true, false and nil. Thanks guys - we know you :)
- Issue
2010/3/9 Hernan Wilkinson hernan.wilkin...@gmail.com
I haven't read the chapter yet, but there is something that bothers me a
little about the Exception hierarchy... what I've seen lately is that
Exceptions are not used only as exceptions but as a why to get context
information (for example
On 10 March 2010 00:58, Nicolas Cellier
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/3/9 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
11255
-
- added tests for the compiler to test shadowing of self,
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Gilad Bracha gbra...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm all for it, and hope that John or Eliot can mentor.
I would like to mentor something in this area, but I think the basic goal of
a cross-platform system is not achievable in GSoC this summer. A
specification of a
El mar, 09-03-2010 a las 22:40 +0100, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
11255
-
- added tests for the compiler to test shadowing of self, super, thisContext,
true, false and nil. Thanks guys - we know you :)
- Issue 2086: Introduce a cleanUp/cleanUp: protocol from squeak / keith idea!
On 09.03.2010 21:48, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
It would be good to add that to the method and class comment.
Henrik?
Stef
Slice-CrLfFileStreamDeprecation in Inbox.
Adds an explanation to class comment and in new method, reroutes the
default-lineEnd methods, and deprecates basicNew just in
Hi Bill -
If you have problems like these consider cross-posting to squeak-dev or
vm-dev. I only check Pharo in irregular intervals.
On 3/8/2010 4:27 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I am having a sudden problem with Pharo crashing on Windows - it's quitting on
handling Seaside requests, and I'm
who knows?
Some people with a small vision :)
And may be some people may not have noticed that over the years some open
source dialect got a lot out of ESUG
and they could insinuate that ESUG coudl be against it.
We did not put all the cost of the actions because we are not that picky
but a
This is on purpose :)
We plan to have
Smalltalk - SmalltalkImage current soon (after all the years I have
been waiting for it to happen this is good to see it happening in squeak
It was not top priority for pharo but on the huge todo so now we will
do it).
Stef
yeap! Closed. This was since september that this was on my todo.
Miguel I added you as project committers
On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez wrote:
El mar, 09-03-2010 a las 22:40 +0100, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
11255
-
- added tests for the compiler to test
col !
I like to be in this community.
Stef
On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
On 09.03.2010 21:48, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
It would be good to add that to the method and class comment.
Henrik?
Stef
Slice-CrLfFileStreamDeprecation in Inbox.
Adds an
Something really important that I forgot to say.
Thanks to all of you that are making Pharo cool.
The key point is that of course we wrote a request document (10 pages), went to
meetings to understand what they wanted, rewrote the document,
motivated it,...
But at the end the fact that INRIA
It seems there is a problem as cleanUp or cleanUp: are implemented in
SmalltalkImage but not in SystemDictionary...so evaluating
Smalltalk cleanUp.
Smalltalk cleanUp: true.
gives a DNU.
Another questionwouldn't be a good idea to add at least a Smalltalk
cleanUp. in
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