Re: [Pharo-project] [GSoC] Idea: Pharo/Squeak integration with git/mercurial.

2010-03-12 Thread John M McIntosh
On 2010-03-11, at 11:18 PM, George Herolyants wrote: Oh, sorry, here it is: ++ Pharo/Squeak integration with git/mercurial. * Defining and implementing a file mapping format for the Smalltalk code structure (classes, methods and so on), in order to support versioning at the level of

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Stan I am lost...do you volunteer to be the mentor of this project ? Tallman can be co-mentor if you want. PLease, let me know as soon as possible cheers mariano On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Stan Shepherd stan.shepherd...@gmail.comwrote: Mariano, the proposals are related in wanting

Re: [Pharo-project] GSoC Idea: GLORP Magritte integration/refactoring

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Ok...Done. I put you as Юрий Мироненко as mentor (BTW, which is your name with this alphabet ?) and Diógenes Moreira as co-mentor. Which difficult we should put ? beginner, intermediate or advanced ? Thanks Mariano 2010/3/12 Юрий Мироненко tall...@inbox.ru Glorp and Magritte both map

Re: [Pharo-project] GSOC 2010: Extensible parsing and persistency for Pier

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Excellent. Which difficult you think it should have ? beginner, intermediate or advanced ? thanks Mariano On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Here is the description for a project related to Pier. Cheers, Doru -- Extensible parsing and

Re: [Pharo-project] [GSoC] Idea: Pharo/Squeak integration with git/mercurial.

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Excellent. I have just put it. Which level do you think it should be ? beginner, intermediate or advanced ? Cheers Mariano On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:18 AM, George Herolyants george.herolya...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, sorry, here it is: ++ Pharo/Squeak integration with git/mercurial.

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: GSoC Idea: GLORP Magritte integration/refactoring

2010-03-12 Thread George Herolyants
2010/3/12 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: BTW, which is your name with this alphabet ? I guess it is Yuriy Mironenko. ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
OK...I have just added this project. Cheers Mariano On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Stan Shepherd stan.shepherd...@gmail.comwrote: Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: 2010/3/11 Юрий Мироненко tall...@inbox.ru ...to show the rest of the world what kind of things can be done in Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-project] Class comments are in the .sources ?

2010-03-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This is not bad or good. A lot of the design decision where taken for extremely small machines (80k loom) Now marcus would say that he wants everything in memory. :) And I would say can we get the best of both worlds having everything in memory if we want or on disc. Stef Hi

[Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi guys tristan is a new student here and he would like to work on collection optimization and implementation. I would like the get some ideas from you. - are there some collections that would be cool to improve? - are there some collections that would be cool to have and that we

Re: [Pharo-project] Class comments are in the .sources ?

2010-03-12 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: This is not bad or good. A lot of the design decision where taken for extremely small machines (80k loom) Now marcus would say that he wants everything in memory. :) I would that my 13inch *laptop* has 4GB RAM *today* and that research

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: LAST CHANCE Foreing Function Interface GSOC [WAS] Re: [smalltalk-research] Re: [Esug-list] Google Summer Of Code 2010 news!!!

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Ok...I added a description Eliot send me. You can check if you want. Cheers Mariano On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Gilad Bracha gbra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Javier Pimás elpochodelage...@gmail.comwrote: Hi! Recently I discovered that there is a parser

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread laurent laffont
Hi What do you think about a Seaside app generator. Most classic web apps needs a bunch of models, a database and automatic forms to enter datas. (Think about Rails+sqlite+ActiveScaffold). I would like to type something like: SeasideApplication new name: 'MyLibrary'; model: 'Library'

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Philippe Marschall
stephane ducasse wrote: Hi guys tristan is a new student here and he would like to work on collection optimization and implementation. I would like the get some ideas from you. - are there some collections that would be cool to improve? - are there some collections that would

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Lukas Renggli
What would be cool for Seaside IMHO: - Multi Value Dictionaries, e.g. for request parameters - Some kind of thread safe map with atomic operations [2], e.g. for session store Why would that be cool? We already have a WAMultiValueDictionary for request parameters. Also we have some ad-hock

[Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
There was a new question in the submission to GSoC which says: If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of 6 students passed in 2006. Does someone understand this ? is this acceptance

Re: [Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Henrik Johansen
I would recon they mean the percentage of students who actually finished the projects they were allocated to in previous years, not the percentage of projects proposals which were accepted. Cheers, Henry Den 12.03.2010 15:34, skrev Mariano Martinez Peck: There was a new question in the

Re: [Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
ok...Thanks...but I still don't know the answer. Does someone know ? 2010/3/12 Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no I would recon they mean the percentage of students who actually finished the projects they were allocated to in previous years, not the percentage of projects

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Philippe Marschall
Lukas Renggli wrote: What would be cool for Seaside IMHO: - Multi Value Dictionaries, e.g. for request parameters - Some kind of thread safe map with atomic operations [2], e.g. for session store Why would that be cool? We already have a WAMultiValueDictionary for request parameters. We

Re: [Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Geert Claes
ESUG has not participated in the past, so I guess that the ratio would need to come from someone who was participating through the Squeak project in past GSoCs. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/URGENT-Please-help-for-GSoC-tp1590585p1590677.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Stan Shepherd
I am happy to volunteer, to to co-mentor with Tallman. I would however recommend eg Lukas instead of me, for ready access to a lot of the tacit knowledge about the stack. ...Stan On 12 March 2010 08:36, Mariano Martinez Peck [via Smalltalk] ml-node+1590257-1441068202-4...@n4.nabble.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] URGENT!! Please help for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread askoh
In 2008, Squeak Project was allocated 5 students. We had 5 students and all passed. 100%. Aik-Siong Koh -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/URGENT-Please-help-for-GSoC-tp1590585p1590738.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Pharo-project] image overload

2010-03-12 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi All, I'm sure Im opening an old topic but anyway, as I was riding the train to work today I saw a shop called Audio Images and it struck me how overloaded the term image is, and how poor a term for the contents of the image file Smalltalk image is. What's in the image is a snapshot of...

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Lukas Renggli
I am happy to volunteer, to to co-mentor with Tallman. I would however recommend eg Lukas instead of me, for ready access to a lot of the tacit knowledge about the stack. I am a bit busy writing my PhD. We can discuss in the list through. Lukas ...Stan On 12 March 2010 08:36, Mariano

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] image overload

2010-03-12 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Friday 12 March 2010 11:29:20 pm Eliot Miranda wrote: I'm sure Im opening an old topic but anyway, as I was riding the train to work today I saw a shop called Audio Images and it struck me how overloaded the term image is, and how poor a term for the contents of the image file Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] Smalltalk app demo for GSoC

2010-03-12 Thread Stan Shepherd
Ok, thanks. Tallman and I it is then. ...Stan -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Google-Summer-Of-Code-2010-news-tp1582769p1590904.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Pharo-project mailing

Re: [Pharo-project] [vwnc] image overload

2010-03-12 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Bruce Boyer bruce.bo...@alumni.uci.eduwrote: This is rather a sensitive area with me at the moment, as I'm working on indexing docs. I've had to resort to using image and graphical image to try to distinguish these two, but image remains unclear to anyone

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 11 March 2010 15:24, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Hi guys tristan is a new student here and he would like to work on collection optimization and implementation. I would like the get some ideas from you.        - are there some collections that would be cool to

Re: [Pharo-project] Class comments are in the .sources ?

2010-03-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
:) We know you start to work the mega huge OO M :) Stef On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: This is not bad or good. A lot of the design decision where taken for extremely small machines (80k loom) Now marcus would

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks for the suggestions :) Hi guys tristan is a new student here and he would like to work on collection optimization and implementation. I would like the get some ideas from you. - are there some collections that would be cool to improve? - are there some collections that

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] image overload

2010-03-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Interesting idea. Stef Begin forwarded message: From: Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com Date: March 12, 2010 6:59:20 PM GMT+01:00 To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-...@lists.squeakfoundation.org, Pharo Development pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr, vwnc NC

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] RE: [vwnc] GSoC idea: Brainstorming portal for better community decision process

2010-03-12 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi Paul, On 11. 03. 2010 22:51, Paul Baumann wrote: What do you think? Big mistake to ask that... :) Not at all :) So report is the end goal? Not a big fancy report for big bosses of course. But a result in some easy understand form to base further decisions on. Consensus doesn't

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: [vwnc] GSoC idea: Brainstorming portal for better community decision process

2010-03-12 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi Gregory, On 12. 03. 2010 01:47, Gregory Bourassa wrote: Paul has made some criticisms of your idea elsewhere on the thread...and some of his points are certainly worth considering. However, a system with some of the attributes you describe might be implemented as a fun tool to

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11259

2010-03-12 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
11259 - - Issue 1614: EmptyBlock is returning last argument instead of nil (thanks lukas and jorge) Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

[Pharo-project] We applied!!!

2010-03-12 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
See the final application at: http://gsoc2010.esug.org/application.html. See final project ideas at: http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas.html It seems that we managed to activate our whole community to propose a record number of projects in a record short time this year. We namely have 35 project

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] We applied!!!

2010-03-12 Thread Germán Arduino
Excellent Mariano! It's good, very good to see all Smalltalk's thinking and working together! Cheers. Germán. 2010/3/12 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: See the final application at: http://gsoc2010.esug.org/application.html. See final project ideas at:

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection collectDistinct: ??

2010-03-12 Thread csrabak
Em 10/03/2010 09:50, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi. I was needing something like the SQL select distinct, that doesn't take into account repeated objects. I didn't found anything useful in Collection, and thus, I have implemented this: Collection

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection collectDistinct: ??

2010-03-12 Thread csrabak
Although the end result should be the same, I wonder if for a collection of items where there is a lot of duplicates the sequential nature of collecting and then converting to a Set wouldn't be less performant than Mariano's proposed method? -- Cesar Rabak Em 10/03/2010 10:07, Nicolas

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection collectDistinct: ??

2010-03-12 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 13.03.2010 00:14, csra...@bol.com.br wrote: Although the end result should be the same, I wonder if for a collection of items where there is a lot of duplicates the sequential nature of collecting and then converting to a Set wouldn't be less performant than Mariano's proposed method? --

Re: [Pharo-project] Collections

2010-03-12 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Stephan Eggermont wrote: Stef wrote: - are there some collections that would be cool to improve? - are there some collections that would be cool to have and that we do not have yet? All collections with an Array as backing store do not perform well in a large memory

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 13.03.2010 01:23, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, stephane ducasse wrote: Hi guys tristan is a new student here and he would like to work on collection optimization and implementation. I would like the get some ideas from you. - are there some collections that would be

[Pharo-project] String widgets for GUIs built using ToolBuilder

2010-03-12 Thread Ralph Boland
I originally posted this on Squeak-Dev but I didn't get a response so I am hoping someone on this list can help. I will release the code I am working on to SqueakSource. I assume it will work in Pharo as well. If it doesn't let me know and I will clean up the problems.

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Julian Fitzell
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: - SortedCollection: just deprecate it (or replace it's crappy quicksort implementation if you really want to improve it. But I think it's useless) You shouldn't deprecate it... it's ANSI. :) But it's implementation could

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: On 13.03.2010 01:23, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, stephane ducasse wrote: Hi guys tristan is a new student here and he would like to work on collection optimization and implementation. I would like the get some ideas from

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Julian Fitzell wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: - SortedCollection: just deprecate it (or replace it's crappy quicksort implementation if you really want to improve it. But I think it's useless) You shouldn't deprecate it...

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread John M McIntosh
10 or 15 years back I look a look at the SortedCollection logic with an eye to improve it. Oddly I found the folks who wrote it had a good understanding of how the code becomes bytecodes and how that impacts performance. My attempts made things worst, so good luck. Personally I'd choose the

Re: [Pharo-project] Collection

2010-03-12 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, John M McIntosh wrote: 10 or 15 years back I look a look at the SortedCollection logic with an eye to improve it. Oddly I found the folks who wrote it had a good understanding of how the code becomes bytecodes and how that impacts performance. My attempts made things