Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: SqueakSource is unusable

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 11 April 2010 00:18, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@gmail.com wrote: thanks. My thanks too. It is just GREAT improvement! Keep moving guys! :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. ___ Pharo-project mailing list

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11311

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
11311 - - Issue 1842: Make the System - Software update a preference for 1.1. Thanks alain. - Issue 991:Polymorph text entry dialog is ugly . Thanks alain - Issue 2287: Menu Selection Color. Thanks gary. ___ Pharo-project mailing list

[Pharo-project] Graphics-MichaelRueger.168....backported normalized transform

2010-04-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi apparently mike posted a while ago transform changes. There were unnoticed because buried over a lot of other changes. So mike should I integrate these changes. Even when I use the bug entry I tend to forget my own changes so without bug entry item. the chances are even higher. Name:

[Pharo-project] Context reflection regression?

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
I just found that a: a b: b c: c ^ thisContext sender stackPtr answers 0 :( while, in order to call the above method , a caller, obviously needs to push 4 values on stack: - push receiver - push a - push b - push c - send #a:b:c: so, a method's caller context stack _should_ contain at

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Context reflection regression?

2010-04-11 Thread Lukas Renggli
AFAIK, the values are copied on send to the arguments/temps of thisContext (1...4), they are not kept in the sending stack frame. Lukas On 11 April 2010 11:32, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: I just found that a: a b: b c: c   ^ thisContext sender stackPtr answers 0  :( while, in

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Context reflection regression?

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 11 April 2010 12:41, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK, the values are copied on send to the arguments/temps of thisContext (1...4), they are not kept in the sending stack frame. hmm... then i wonder , how ContextPartjump and ContextPartrestart still working, because in #jump it

Re: [Pharo-project] Graphics-MichaelRueger.168....backported normalized transform

2010-04-11 Thread Michael Rueger
On 4/11/2010 11:19 AM, stephane ducasse wrote: Hi apparently mike posted a while ago transform changes. There were unnoticed because buried over a lot of other changes. So mike should I integrate these changes. Even when I use the bug entry I tend to forget my own changes so without bug entry

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Interesting theory. The question is are they trying to force developers to buy Macs, or are they simply trying to avoid the hassles of targeting Windows? 10+ years to present day is an interesting time frame. OLE was pretty much out of the way (supported but not pressed and certainly not

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 11 April 2010 17:29, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote: Interesting theory.  The question is are they trying to force developers to buy Macs, or are they simply trying to avoid the hassles of targeting Windows?  10+ years to present day is an interesting time frame.  OLE was

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 11 April 2010 17:42, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 April 2010 17:29, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote: Interesting theory.  The question is are they trying to force developers to buy Macs, or are they simply trying to avoid the hassles of targeting Windows?  

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread Lukas Renggli
People won't buy an 'approved' C++ crap, if they will have a choice to use something which is way better. And they are really don't care, what language is used to implement software. You'll have to admit that open source software with a truly excellent user experience still hasn't happened

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 11 April 2010 17:59, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: People won't buy an 'approved' C++ crap, if they will have a choice to use something which is way better. And they are really don't care, what language is used to implement software. You'll have to admit that open source software

[Pharo-project] WeakSet but no WeakIdentitySet?

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
Hello, i need to keep a bunch of CompiledMethods in WeakSet, but i am a bit afraid, that it wont work as i want to, because of CompiledMethod= implementation, because a code, which i currently writing doesn't changing a method's bytecode, but changing its trailer instead, and so, this could lead

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

2010-04-11 Thread Richard Durr
I'd like to contribute, but I am not good enough for the difficult ones to come to pleasing solutions, and I somehow don't feel the other ones accessable for me :/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi richard some changes are changes coming from

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi richard thanks. The idea is to start small and learn. This is what I'm doing. Something where we need some hands are for example the running the tests in 1.1 and reporting the problems. Looking at the bug entries and checking if there are still valid is also an important task. After pick

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread John Toohey
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/ 2010/4/10 Ramiro Diaz Trepat ram...@diaztrepat.name: arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/apple-takes-aim-at-adobe-or-android.ars Sent from my Android mobile

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Sig, I *never* said anything like that. I do think that Microsoft is in decline, and it would not surprise me at all if Apple didn't want to play along with their whims, trying hit a moving target that will cause them to do extra work at the potential expense of their own market share. Bill

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Lukas, I'll give you that, but I also think that Windows is going the wrong way. Something simple like browsing a directory full of graphs of data from various experimental runs has become easier (and faster) on Linux than it is on Windows. If Apple could/would run their OS on things like

[Pharo-project] add #next:putAll:startingAt: to SocketStream

2010-04-11 Thread Philippe Marschall
Hi While I was optimizing some Seaside code I found out that SocketStream does not understand #next:putAll:startingAt: [1]. It's quite a helpful method that allows one to write a subcollection of a collection to a stream without making a copy. In our case it would allow the codec to directly

Re: [Pharo-project] add #next:putAll:startingAt: to SocketStream

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Cool! Soon in the best shop close to you :) Stef On Apr 11, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote: Hi While I was optimizing some Seaside code I found out that SocketStream does not understand #next:putAll:startingAt: [1]. It's quite a helpful method that allows one to write a

Re: [Pharo-project] Bye bye pharo on the iPhone

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 11 April 2010 19:53, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote: Sig, I *never* said anything like that. Sure you didn't. Apple did :) I do think that Microsoft is in decline, and it would not surprise me at all if Apple didn't want to play along with their whims, trying hit a moving

[Pharo-project] Open Pharo debugger from a Seaside wallback

2010-04-11 Thread Facundo Vozzi
Hi people, I'm using Pharo RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 version and it's very slow when I trying to debugging a seaside application. In other words, I press the debug link on the seaside application walback and it take to Pharo over 40 seconds to open de imagen debugger. I tried with Seaside 3 developer

Re: [Pharo-project] add #next:putAll:startingAt: to SocketStream

2010-04-11 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Philippe Marschall wrote: Hi While I was optimizing some Seaside code I found out that SocketStream does not understand #next:putAll:startingAt: [1]. It's quite a helpful method that allows one to write a subcollection of a collection to a stream without making a copy. In

Re: [Pharo-project] add #next:putAll:startingAt: to SocketStream

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks for the reminder Philippe I just integrated your fixes. Could you have a look at the entry pointed by levente? Stef On Apr 11, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Philippe Marschall wrote: Hi While I was optimizing some Seaside code I found out that

Re: [Pharo-project] A port of Pharo: Redline Smalltalk ...

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Richard Nicolas checked systematically that add: method returns their argument. - Issue 2171: add consistency in MC, Exception and other for the tests: this a list of possible tests that would be worth to migrate to pharo. - Issue 2238: tests for FileStream behavior

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11312

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
11312 - - Issue 2292: add #next:putAll:startingAt: to SocketStream. Thanks pmm - http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2292 - Issue 1011: Monticello snapshot browser does not display class side definitions. Thanks lukas. - Fix Code recovery menu: thanks alain -

Re: [Pharo-project] Open Pharo debugger from a Seaside wallback

2010-04-11 Thread Lukas Renggli
This seems to be a known problem: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.seaside/20959 Lukas 2010/4/11 Facundo Vozzi facundo...@gmail.com: Hi people, I'm using Pharo RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 version and it's very slow when I trying to debugging a seaside application. In

Re: [Pharo-project] Open Pharo debugger from a Seaside wallback

2010-04-11 Thread Facundo Vozzi
Yes, it's seems to be that issue but its solution didn't repair my problem. I think that the problem is relationated with a network configuration issue so i will continue trying in that way. Thank you Lukas. Facundo On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: This

[Pharo-project] news about 1.0

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys mariano, marcus and adrian got some push to get 1.0 out. I was just on cc: I think that we made a mistake not to roll that publicly via the mailing-list (we will do that for 1.1). Now this is holidays time here, mariano is going to get married and adrian just moved so no internet

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi levente/igor this hashedCollection is still on my radar. Now I was wondering if I should work first on Set with nil or HashedCollection. Any idea/suggestion? Stef On Mar 14, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, stephane ducasse wrote: Hi levente and others I

[Pharo-project] VM team update

2010-04-11 Thread David T. Lewis
Folks, We are in the midst of a flurry of activity to update the virtual machines for Mac, Windows and Unix in support of upcoming Squeak and Pharo releases. These VMs all will include Eliot Miranda's block closure support, as well as a large number of updates, bug fixes, and enhancements. There

Re: [Pharo-project] Open Pharo debugger from a Seaside wallback

2010-04-11 Thread Lukas Renggli
I don't have windows, so I cannot help. It would be cool if some Windows/Firefox user could figure out a permanent solution for our side, as this problem keeps on reappearing. Luas 2010/4/11 Facundo Vozzi facundo...@gmail.com: Yes, it's seems to be that issue but its solution didn't repair my

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

2010-04-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 12 April 2010 00:29, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi levente/igor this hashedCollection is still on my radar. Now I was wondering if I should work first on Set with nil or HashedCollection. Any idea/suggestion? HashedCollection is more important/basic refactoring

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

2010-04-11 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi levente/igor this hashedCollection is still on my radar. Now I was wondering if I should work first on Set with nil or HashedCollection. Any idea/suggestion? I think it's easier to add HashedCollection first, then the nil support for Set,

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I will do that. Stef On Apr 11, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 12 April 2010 00:29, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi levente/igor this hashedCollection is still on my radar. Now I was wondering if I should work first on Set with nil or HashedCollection.

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

2010-04-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes! So I will follow your steps as soon as I have a bit of time. Stef On Apr 11, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi levente/igor this hashedCollection is still on my radar. Now I was wondering if I should work first on Set with nil

[Pharo-project] fixing underscores in a trivial manner thanks to SmalllintChecker and Lukas!

2010-04-11 Thread Fernando olivero
Hi all, i just wanted to re post the fix underscore code Lukas posted a while ago. I've just imported Connectors package into pharo, (i'm trying to get a minimal version working ), and stumbled upon the problem of the underscores.. but now thanks to SmallInt rules it was easy and fast to

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] WeakSet but no WeakIdentitySet?

2010-04-11 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Igor Stasenko wrote: Hello, i need to keep a bunch of CompiledMethods in WeakSet, but i am a bit afraid, that it wont work as i want to, because of CompiledMethod= implementation, because a code, which i currently writing doesn't changing a method's bytecode, but changing

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

2010-04-11 Thread Ralph Boland
Hi levente/igor this hashedCollection is still on my radar. Now I was wondering if I should work first on Set with nil or HashedCollection. Any idea/suggestion? Stef I think moving Dictionary out from under Set is a great idea. However I am not convinced having a class HashedCollection

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

2010-04-11 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Ralph Boland wrote: Hi levente/igor this hashedCollection is still on my radar. Now I was wondering if I should work first on Set with nil or HashedCollection. Any idea/suggestion? Stef I think moving Dictionary out from under Set is a great idea. However I am not