Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit Time out

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Roberts
exactly... my thought is running these automatically and headless. you don't necessarily need it built into the test framework itself. You can just have another process that monitors and kills after a timeout. This is why i commented on the granularity. The feature Andreas describes would be used

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi! CCing Pharo list, this was regarding: http://goran.krampe.se/blog/Squeak/eblankett-dev.rdoc On 05/30/2010 12:00 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: Hello Göran, Is there a special reason you tried Pharo 1.0? Your improvements are of Nope, just (wrongly I agree) thought it was fairly up to

Re: [Pharo-project] how to add an entry in World Menu (was: CommandShell)

2010-05-30 Thread Alain Plantec
http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/DeclaringSetting Alain Le 28/05/2010 07:33, Alain Plantec a écrit : Le 27/05/2010 23:02, laurent laffont a écrit : See http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/WorldMenuRegistration yep! Can someone write a little example on how to

[Pharo-project] Rome/Athens notes

2010-05-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
Hi, i found rome API very close to OpenVG. Still OpenVG is a bit superior :) So, i'm using it as a guide to model/implement Rome interfaces. So, here is my thoughts (i also having a draft class skeleton for them): Paints: Paint is an object, which when applied to path, renders(draws) the path

Re: [Pharo-project] How do I install seaside in Pharo 1.0?

2010-05-30 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 6:43 PM, magique poter sebov...@gmail.com wrote: I have problem installing Seaside on Pharo 1.0. Evaluate ConfigurationOfSeaside workspace did not work. Hi! Hello! Thanks for your response, No problem. In the Smalltalk world, when you see aClass

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi goran and stephan It is difficult to follow if we should take action. Apparently we do not have all the story. so if we should something please tell us. Now 1.1 got so much improvements may be it worth to have a look at it. You can find a direct link on 1.1 from

Re: [Pharo-project] how to add an entry in World Menu (was: CommandShell)

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks alain! On May 30, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/DeclaringSetting Alain Le 28/05/2010 07:33, Alain Plantec a écrit : Le 27/05/2010 23:02, laurent laffont a écrit : See

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 30.05.2010 13:24, Göran Krampe wrote: Hi! CCing Pharo list, this was regarding: http://goran.krampe.se/blog/Squeak/eblankett-dev.rdoc On 05/30/2010 12:00 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: Hello Göran, Is there a special reason you tried Pharo 1.0? Your improvements are of Nope, just

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome/Athens notes

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi, i found rome API very close to OpenVG. Still OpenVG is a bit superior :) So, i'm using it as a guide to model/implement Rome interfaces. Excellent! So, here is my thoughts (i also having a draft class skeleton for them): frankly consider that we are working on Rome because we need

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
CCing Pharo list, this was regarding: http://goran.krampe.se/blog/Squeak/eblankett-dev.rdoc On 05/30/2010 12:00 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: Hello Göran, Is there a special reason you tried Pharo 1.0? Your improvements are of Nope, just (wrongly I agree) thought it was fairly up to

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Stephan Eggermont
I'd guess the important thing is to explain on the Pharo web site that bug fixes are in the 1.1 and are not (always) retrofitted to 1.0 Stephan ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 670: Should clean Morph menu

2010-05-30 Thread Guillermo Polito
I take this thread back to life. Is everyone happy with this menu? Is It useful? :P On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: magic of morphic :) Stef On May 26, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: Well, even if a morph does not, at any one

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I'd guess the important thing is to explain on the Pharo web site that bug fixes are in the 1.1 and are not (always) retrofitted to 1.0 only showstoppers = severe bugs = that can put the system on his knees. But probably we should stay that: In the current set of ressources only showstoppers

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11379

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
11379 - - Issue 1832: remove unnecessary halt or convert them into error Now as part of the integration process I will do a little Compiler recompileAll to see if we catch some problems with source. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list

[Pharo-project] List of pending items for 1.1

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi all I did a fast list of items it would make sense to close for 1.1: Can you help us? I'm going over the issues and sort them - FFI/Alien? - http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2481 Issue 2481: Fix code gen infinite recursion - Issue 2446: Method lookup

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Adrian Lienhard
If there is a need for backporting important fixes to 1.0 I can do that during the sprint next Saturday. But I would need to know *which* fixes are the critical ones. Adrian On May 30, 2010, at 18:10 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I'd guess the important thing is to explain on the Pharo web site

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome/Athens notes

2010-05-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 May 2010 17:26, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, i found rome API very close to OpenVG. Still OpenVG is a bit superior :) So, i'm using it as a guide to model/implement Rome interfaces. Excellent! So, here is my thoughts (i also having a draft class skeleton for

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
I think that Goran's case was an indication how sometimes hard to cope up with latest finest things. So, Goran had issues with trunk, as well as with Pharo.. And wasted a time by using old/obsolete, wrong things, because of lack of information. Take into account that all of it happen to not

Re: [Pharo-project] how to add an entry in World Menu (was: CommandShell)

2010-05-30 Thread laurent laffont
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alain Plantec alain.plan...@free.frwrote: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/DeclaringSetting Alain Thanks Alain. Do you know how I can browse all methods defining systemsettings pragma ? Cheers. Laurent Laffont

Re: [Pharo-project] how to add an entry in World Menu (was: CommandShell)

2010-05-30 Thread Alain Plantec
Le 30/05/2010 21:30, laurent laffont a écrit : On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Alain Plantec alain.plan...@free.fr mailto:alain.plan...@free.fr wrote: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/DeclaringSetting Alain Thanks Alain. Do you know how I can browse all methods

Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit Time out

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 30, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Chris Muller wrote: (Copying squeak-dev too). I'm not sold on the whole test timeout thing. When I run tests, I want to know the answer to the question, is the software working? Putting a timeout on tests trades a slower, but definitive, yes or no for a

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome/Athens notes

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
cool post Stef On May 30, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 30 May 2010 17:26, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, i found rome API very close to OpenVG. Still OpenVG is a bit superior :) So, i'm using it as a guide to model/implement Rome interfaces.

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
so far none. :) Now it would be good to use the bug tracker to create a list of issues we closed. Lukas told me that this is easy. Stef If there is a need for backporting important fixes to 1.0 I can do that during the sprint next Saturday. But I would need to know *which* fixes are the

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes but in that case try 1.0 try 1.1 alpha like that you simply know if you software is running. Even in VW or Java you have to do that. because would you really spend time reading 20 pages of bug fixes? Stef On May 30, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: I think that

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 670: Should clean Morph menu

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I would start removing some of the them: the obvious one :) or the ones I marked I take this thread back to life. Is everyone happy with this menu? Is It useful? :P On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: magic of morphic :) Stef On May

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi! So much discussion about that little post... :) On 05/30/2010 10:10 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Yes but in that case try 1.0 try 1.1 alpha Hmmm, Stephane still likes to top post I notice :) Anyway, Igor nailed it pretty good with his post actually - I was merely

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome/Athens notes

2010-05-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 May 2010 23:08, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: cool post Yeah, these things are quite interesting. Except that not much people actually interested in it :) Here's another thing, which can be done right (if we want). Rome/OpenVG Paths is actually nothing else than a

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11380

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
11380 - - Issue 2484: Verify Number of FFI argument. Squeak trunk - Issue 2486: Pixel values for depth 32 is off for some colors. Thanks Henrik. - Issue 2337: Fix decompilation not to truncate very long decompiled methods. - Issue 2449: Help Browser should provide task bar icon

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi! So much discussion about that little post... :) On 05/30/2010 10:10 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Yes but in that case try 1.0 try 1.1 alpha Hmmm, Stephane still likes to top post I notice :) I do not know what you are implying. But I think that we are trying to building

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome/Athens notes

2010-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 30, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 30 May 2010 23:08, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: cool post Yeah, these things are quite interesting. Except that not much people actually interested in it :) I do not think so. Good posts are read more that you

Re: [Pharo-project] Rome/Athens notes

2010-05-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 31 May 2010 00:20, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On May 30, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 30 May 2010 23:08, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: cool post Yeah, these things are quite interesting. Except that not much people actually

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 30.05.2010 23:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi! So much discussion about that little post... :) On 05/30/2010 10:10 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Yes but in that case try 1.0 try 1.1 alpha Hmmm, Stephane still likes to top post I notice :) I do not know what you are

Re: [Pharo-project] Trip to Pharo land

2010-05-30 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi! On 05/30/2010 11:17 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi! So much discussion about that little post... :) On 05/30/2010 10:10 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Yes but in that case try 1.0 try 1.1 alpha Hmmm, Stephane still likes to top post I notice :) I do not know what you are

[Pharo-project] Change Author full name prompt text in PharoCore 1.1

2010-05-30 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
I have changed the text of the message prompt and the text of the setting for author full name in PharoCore 1.1 so that is similar (shorter) to the text of PharoCore 1.0. Issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2491 fixed in PharoInbox in: