Re: [Pharo-project] Compiling the VM for MacOSX

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
alex do not forget to update the web page with the information you learned. On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Thanks, it works fine now. I use an obsolete version? Strange. I downloaded the lastest version of VMMaker. By the way, the produced vm is fairly slow. I do not

Re: [Pharo-project] UbiquiTalk running in Pharo 1.1

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
sean I do not know your computer but mine does not have a 5 inches floppy, 3.5 floppy, serial port, RS2332. Does it answer your question? Side remark: lukas probably write gofer because he needed something - well written - robust - small with only the code he needs

Re: [Pharo-project] yarg: Pharo grammar ...

2010-09-08 Thread Lukas Renggli
- Check out the Parser/Scanner classes in every PharoDev image. - Check out the RBParser/RBScanner classes in the package AST-Core in every Pharo image. - Check out the class PPSmalltalkGrammar in the package PetitSmalltalk (http://scg.unibe.ch/research/helvetia/petitparser) which is an

Re: [Pharo-project] yarg: Pharo grammar ...

2010-09-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:51 AM, James Ladd wrote: This is Yet Another Request for the Grammar to Pharo/Squeak Smalltalk? I have seen this: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/409 but it is very old and doesn't appear to cater for Pharo/Squeak additions. Can someone point me to a more recent

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient License Update

2010-09-08 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 7 September 2010 21:15, Philippe Marschall kus...@gmx.net wrote: On 07.09.2010 09:03, Andreas Raab wrote: Hi - After careful consideration I've decided to put WebClient under the MIT license, and updated the repository at http://www.squeaksource.com/WebClient.html to reflect the license

[Pharo-project] Building Cocoa 5.x series plugins, and testing help needed.

2010-09-08 Thread John M McIntosh
Ok, I was going to spend a few of my precious evenings going thru and rebuilding all/some of the plugins for the Cocoa V5.x series of VMs. Maybe even update them for the Cog Stack and JIT VM. However to do this I need some help from the community to test the creatures after they are done.

[Pharo-project] Why -encoding latin1 in pharo.sh?

2010-09-08 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi all! A friend of mine wondered why he couldn't copy/paste a text in UTF8 (with swedish åäö characters in it) and paste into Pharo without getting a debugger :) It turns out that the One-Click pharo.sh uses -encoding latin1 when it starts the VM. But the code in ClipboardclipboardText

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient License Update

2010-09-08 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 08.09.2010 08:35, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 7 September 2010 21:15, Philippe Marschall kus...@gmx.net wrote: On 07.09.2010 09:03, Andreas Raab wrote: Hi - After careful consideration I've decided to put WebClient under the MIT license, and updated the repository at

Re: [Pharo-project] Building Cocoa 5.x series plugins, and testing help needed.

2010-09-08 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 08.09.2010 09:11, John M McIntosh wrote: Ok, I was going to spend a few of my precious evenings going thru and rebuilding all/some of the plugins for the Cocoa V5.x series of VMs. Maybe even update them for the Cog Stack and JIT VM. However to do this I need some help from the

Re: [Pharo-project] Why -encoding latin1 in pharo.sh?

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks for reporting ;) Stef On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Göran Krampe wrote: Hi all! A friend of mine wondered why he couldn't copy/paste a text in UTF8 (with swedish åäö characters in it) and paste into Pharo without getting a debugger :) It turns out that the One-Click pharo.sh

[Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+ 1 If someone could look at simpleLog (because we need to change this situation and get a good logging mechanism) We need much better infrastructure and we will build them. this is on my todo but this is a long one. On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Simon Denier wrote: I have no idea

Re: [Pharo-project] Building Cocoa 5.x series plugins, and testing help needed.

2010-09-08 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 08.09.2010 11:23, Philippe Marschall wrote: On 08.09.2010 09:11, John M McIntosh wrote: Ok, I was going to spend a few of my precious evenings going thru and rebuilding all/some of the plugins for the Cocoa V5.x series of VMs. Maybe even update them for the Cog Stack and JIT VM.

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Göran Krampe
On 09/08/2010 11:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: + 1 If someone could look at simpleLog (because we need to change this situation and get a good logging mechanism) We need much better infrastructure and we will build them. I wrote SimpleLog (in the Gjallar project) and feel free to

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I will chekc I would like an object that represent wht is logged. do you have that? I do not want strings strings strings. On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Göran Krampe wrote: On 09/08/2010 11:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: + 1 If someone could look at simpleLog (because we need to change this

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Experimental Cocoa OS-X based Squeak Cog JIT VM 5.8b7

2010-09-08 Thread Juan Vuletich
John M McIntosh wrote: Ok, well it's great someone is actually paying attention. In 4.2.4 if (stat(unixPath, statBuf) lstat(unixPath, statBuf)) and pull these values time_t st_mtime; /* [XSI] Last data modification time */ time_t st_ctime;

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo sprint Friday 1 of October @ Lille

2010-09-08 Thread Johan Brichau
You can count me in. Johan (from a sunny place :-) On 06 Sep 2010, at 15:27, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys we want to do a pharo sprint the friday 1st of October. Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list

[Pharo-project] RFB Server not working on Squeak 4.1?

2010-09-08 Thread Lawson English
Has anyone tested the RFB server class in Squeak 4.1? I can't get it to work in Mac OS X 10.6 or in at least variant of Linux. Haven't tested it in Pharo. Lawson ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] UbiquiTalk running in Pharo 1.1

2010-09-08 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mié, 08-09-2010 a las 08:18 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió: sean I do not know your computer but mine does not have a 5 inches floppy, 3.5 floppy, serial port, RS2332. Does it answer your question? Side remark: lukas probably write gofer because he needed something - well written

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo sprint Friday 1 of October @ Lille

2010-09-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
I added you in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoSprints Are there topics to do? I would like to remove CodeLoader and also to create a Pharo 1.1.1 Covg one click. Cheers Mariano On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: You can count me in. Johan

Re: [Pharo-project] Magma in Pharo 1.1

2010-09-08 Thread DavidWilson
After an afternoon of trying to install Magma, I find you also need to select the compiler option to allow assignments to block variables. I still get dependency warnings, which I ignored by clicking on 'Proceed': This package depends on the following classes: FlapTab You must resolve these

Re: [Pharo-project] Magma in Pharo 1.1

2010-09-08 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mié, 08-09-2010 a las 08:24 -0700, DavidWilson escribió: After an afternoon of trying to install Magma, I find you also need to select the compiler option to allow assignments to block variables. You don't say how are you installing Magma, from the sar from the mcm, from the metacello

Re: [Pharo-project] RFB Server not working on Squeak 4.1?

2010-09-08 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, Lawson English wrote: Has anyone tested the RFB server class in Squeak 4.1? I can't get it to work in Mac OS X 10.6 or in at least variant of Linux. Haven't tested it in Pharo. If you're talking about http://squeaksource.com/RFB/ then yes, we use it (actually we use our

Re: [Pharo-project] Magma in Pharo 1.1

2010-09-08 Thread DavidWilson
Hi Miguel I'd tried all three methods I found (Monticello, Installer, and Gofer ). Now I've done what you suggested and the install works perfectly. And Magma seems to work. Thanks for your help. David -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo sprint Friday 1 of October @ Lille

2010-09-08 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Can you add luc and me too please :-) Noury On 8 sept. 2010, at 17:16, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: I added you in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoSprints Are there topics to do? I would like to remove CodeLoader and also to create a Pharo 1.1.1 Covg one click. Cheers

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Experimental Cocoa OS-X based Squeak Cog JIT VM 5.8b7

2010-09-08 Thread John M McIntosh
Hi John, I've just tested the new VM you sent me. The details are below. This is what I see: 1)- 5.8b10 gives exactly the same date/times as 5.8b7 2)- 5.8 (both) seem to show times that are about 1:17 (one hour, seventeen minutes) earlier than the correct one. This doesn't have

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo sprint Friday 1 of October @ Lille

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Cool! and Welcome of course. Stef On Sep 8, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: You can count me in. Johan (from a sunny place :-) On 06 Sep 2010, at 15:27, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys we want to do a pharo sprint the friday 1st of October. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] UbiquiTalk running in Pharo 1.1

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes we should have some nice parties :) Stef On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Side remark: lukas probably write gofer because he needed something - well written - robust - small with only the code he needs - with tests

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12125

2010-09-08 Thread stephane ducasse
12125 - - Issue 2778: Replace ParagraphEditor by TextEditor and SmalltalkEditor. Thanks Guillermo Polito. Now we should fix the menus :) Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Sockets in Pharo CollaborActive Book

2010-09-08 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
On 5 sept. 2010, at 03:22, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Noury, I was struggling a little with a stream for serial ports, and thought you might have tackled the problem of a generating stream (one that can grow in the background). Now that I type that, maybe Nile has the answer?? Re

Re: [Pharo-project] Building Cocoa 5.x series plugins, and testing help needed.

2010-09-08 Thread John M McIntosh
On 2010-09-08, at 3:34 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote: - #primCountry and #primLanguage seem to answer a three element String with the last element being a zero character (I assume a C string), this is not so nice. I'm not sure whether this should be fixed in the primitive or in the Pharo code.

[Pharo-project] Issue reported: Category inconsistency in ClassDescription

2010-09-08 Thread Nicolás Paez
I have added a new issue to the tracker: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2918 Description: If you browse the ClassDescription class you will find two different categories that I think conceptually are the same: filein/out and fileIn/Out (just a casing difference). Regards

[Pharo-project] Hudson

2010-09-08 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Would someone give a brief summary of how Hudson is being used by Pharo? (I googled and have a general understanding of what Hudson is) Thanks. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hudson-tp2531857p2531857.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue reported: Category inconsistency in ClassDescription

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks! On Sep 8, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Nicolás Paez wrote: I have added a new issue to the tracker: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2918 Description: If you browse the ClassDescription class you will find two different categories that I think conceptually are the same:

Re: [Pharo-project] Hudson

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Gees if you spoil the secret in advance :) Luckily we have the secret talks on wednesday and even mariano failed to know what it will be :) Stef On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: Did you check the README file of the distribution? http://github.com/renggli/builder

Re: [Pharo-project] Hudson

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: Luckily we have the secret talks on wednesday and even mariano failed to know what it will be :) Do the presenters of the secret talks know that they will present something? why you stress? LOL You gave me some great ideas But

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Dale Henrichs
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I will chekc I would like an object that represent wht is logged. do you have that? I do not want strings strings strings. On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Göran Krampe wrote: On 09/08/2010 11:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: + 1 If someone could look at simpleLog (because

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12126

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
After this little breaks in integration I feel another wave of good fixes before ESUG :) At ESUG I'm in the mood to have regular hacking sessions will be fun. 12126 - - Issue 2918: Category inconsistency in ClassDescription. Thanks Nicolas Paez. - Issue 2882: recategorize Magnitude max:

[Pharo-project] A thought about the fear of not knowing

2010-09-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi Pharoers, lurkers, users We repeat all over the same: we welcome you to participate and while we are cool and welcoming, you feel oh I cannot, I do not know, this is complex... You look at us like Gurus, but let us be clear, we are not, we are just common people that have a debugger, kids

Re: [Pharo-project] Hudson

2010-09-08 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Lukas Renggli wrote: Did you check the README file of the distribution? http://github.com/renggli/builder Looks like just what I wanted, thanks. Lukas Renggli wrote: Also come to my ESUG presentation on Thursday titled Agile Seaside, I might show Hudson there :-) Cool, see

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
You mention something for viewing the log in-image. Dumb question: can it be left running and safely forgotten, or does it suffer under high load? Is there a way to view the log from outside of a running image? The latter is less important in proportion to the robustness of the in-image

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Dale Henrichs
The inspector is currently used to view the object log in the development vm...for large object logs it makes sense to filter the log before viewing. For external viewing I have a Seaside Component that allows one to filter and sort the object log entries as well as delete entries from the

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] Metacello ESUG 2010 topics for discussion/decision

2010-09-08 Thread Dale Henrichs
Stef, I mention this in a Pharo thread but, In GemStone the Transcript entries are also added to the Object log, so the Object log has a long term collection of Transcript entries ... the key would be that Transcript entries should be automatically included in the logging scheme ... so that

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Yanni Chiu
Dale Henrichs wrote: For the Pharo, I would think that the fact that an Object log could accumulate a whole lot of stuff is real limiting factor...there'd need to be a process that continuously pruned objects from the object log over time so a thread safe linked list might be a better

[Pharo-project] How to install Glorp

2010-09-08 Thread Germán Arduino
Hi Squeakers and Pharoers: Even when I saw several mails about the topic, I failed to install Glorp properly, on Squeak (4.1) and also on Pharo (4.1). No matter what method I try, or which Glorp .mcz, I allways get the attached error, referencing some weird oracle thing. I'm new to Glorp, I

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] How to install Glorp

2010-09-08 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
In pharo: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX'; load. and then (ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX project version: '1.2') load will install SqueakDBX as the database driver and Glorp-SqueakDBXDriver (ConfigurationOfGlorpDBX project version:

Re: [Pharo-project] A thought about the fear of not knowing

2010-09-08 Thread Christoph Budzinski
Kudos to you, it's always nice to see when programmers try to take the fear out of the equasion :) I think the terms experts and gurus should be completely abolished. It just strucks fear into the hearts of new programmers. What the heck is a guru? Or an expert? Someone who learnt a few nice

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Göran Krampe
On 09/08/2010 10:50 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: You mention something for viewing the log in-image. Dumb question: can it be left running and safely forgotten, or does it suffer under high load? Is there a way to view the log from outside of a running image? The latter is less important in

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Göran, I think before we adopt anything, it should have the left running scenario addressed in some way. Pharo is supposed to be robust. That mean losing the silent failures, and doing so in a way that the new information does not bring the system to its knees. On Windows,

Re: [Pharo-project] simpleLog in pharo?

2010-09-08 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi! On 09/09/2010 01:18 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Göran, I think before we adopt anything, it should have the left running scenario addressed in some way. Pharo is supposed to be robust. That mean losing the silent failures, and doing so in a way that the new information does not bring

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient License Update

2010-09-08 Thread Andreas Raab
Phillipe wrote: Did you change your position towards #squeakToUtf8 and string concatenation (I didn't follow the entire previous thread)? Implicitly yes, but let's discuss this. You're saying you want WebClient without overrides but is this really what you mean? The only reason these methods

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient License Update

2010-09-08 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mié, 08-09-2010 a las 19:27 -0700, Andreas Raab escribió: It is amazing how square-minded you are. All this diatribe was nothing but to defend the current state of the code you write. Phillipe wrote: Did you change your position towards #squeakToUtf8 and string concatenation (I didn't