thanks for the analysis so we will have to speed it up too.
It does!
It seems that you did not work in VW2.5 and 3.0 and when parcels arrived
loading was really a big difference
I do not see why this would not the same with Fuel.
No I didn't, but the version number of VW is around 7.x
On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Germán Arduino wrote:
When I read about the Heroku buy the first thing I remembered was
Morphle project because it's leader, Merik, all the time was focused
in a business model as Heroku had.
well when I hear that name I just want to leave the room and run fast.
yes we should have done that
On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:44 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
I said it before: just give the variable a different name. For example,
textStyle. That would solve all loading problems.
Doru
On 9 Dec 2010, at 22:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks all for your time.
We
Yes
I think that this is the pattern that we are applying for packageInfo for
example
I said it before: This doesn't solve anything at all. In fact it is
much easier to remove the variable and fork the code. Renaming causes
a ripple effect to lots of methods and makes it impossible to merge
On Dec 9, 2010, at 16:25 , Martin Dias wrote:
Hi all,
Thank you for the discussion, is very interesting for me.
Thanks Adrian, I don't have benchmarks with ImageSegment, so I like to
see the numbers, how could I reproduce that benchmarks? it would be
useful for me.
This is the
I started following Squeak/Pharo because I can see potential for Smalltalk
as a cloud platform. I did look at Heroku and I did like how easy they make
it to build and deploy apps to the cloud. I reckon the solution needs to
make it easy to manage versions, environments (dev/test/live) and
Even if Fuel can be 10x faster, it doesn't really make a difference IMHO.
It would be interesting to thoroughly profile MC to figure where it spends
all its time (with large projects it gets very very slow, like several
minutes to just show the merge diffs between two branches).
I guess
Status: Started
Owner: rydier
Labels: Milestone-1.2
New issue 3397 by rydier: Behaviour #adoptInstance:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3397
This is a method originally found in VisualWorks, and offers a nicer
interface to use than changeClassToThatOf: for switching the class
Hi Martin,
Looks very interesting. Reading the material you posted, the question
that jumps out at me is this: from the benchmarks, it's clear that
materializing is faster than serializing, but it's not clear why. How
does separating the nodes from the edges of the object graph make
Updates:
Status: Fixed
Comment #1 on issue 3397 by rydier: Behaviour #adoptInstance:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3397
SLICE-Issue3397-Behavior-adoptInstance in inbox
Updates:
Labels: Type-RequestForEnhancement
Comment #2 on issue 3397 by rydier: Behaviour #adoptInstance:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3397
(No comment was entered for this change.)
Hi all,
6 tests in SystemNavigationTest
and SystemNavigationOnNewlyCreatedEnvironementTest are failing in 1.2
This is because of the introduction of SourcedMethodReference.
I already speak about this problem here:
http://forum.world.st/About-SourcedMethodReference-td3035187.html
Status: Accepted
Owner: luc.fabresse
Labels: Milestone-1.2 Type-FailingTest
New issue 3398 by luc.fabresse: SystemNavigation and SourcedMethodReference
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3398
6 tests in SystemNavigationTest and
SystemNavigationOnNewlyCreatedEnvironementTest are
Hi Igor,
OK, so those are expected failures. :-)
On 9 December 2010 19:31, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
Currently the Mac NB code using mostly the linux code, and sure thing
it could be different in some places specific to mac.
Are there any larger bodies of example code that could
Hi all,
I know that someone already manage to compile linux (squeak or cog) VM with
Alien support (plugin I32ABI).
Could someone, send me an already compiled VM? ;-)
BTW, why the compiled linux VM available for download does not include this
plugin?
Thanks,
#Luc
2010/12/10 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
In summary, I'm sure that cloud is the way to go, and count me in to
any idea related with some sort of business/startup/entrepreneural
initiative around Pharo on the cloud.
I would be interested to hear about simple solutions for hosting
so, concerning the new editor changes, I would like to help because this
messy situation is partly my fault.
would it be helpful if I rename current TextEditor as TextEditor2, (give
me another name please ...),
current SmalltalkEditor as SmalltalkEditor2 and reintroduce the previous
Hi folks.
First make a question, in this list.
StringasDate message assume(harcode way) english date format.. may be..
may be better if the date format to take it to a context variable as with
the names of the months?
Best..
One data more...
may be, can be definied un ChronologyConstants class
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Diogenes Moreira
diogenes.more...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks.
First make a question, in this list.
StringasDate message assume(harcode way) english date format.. may be..
may be better
No, don't waste time on reverting. I almost got it working.
My comment was ment for the future :-)
Lukas
On 10 December 2010 13:02, Alain Plantec alain.plan...@free.fr wrote:
so, concerning the new editor changes, I would like to help because this
messy situation is partly my fault.
would it
Dear all,I am currently working on the Ring, an unifying and foundational model infrastructure for Pharo.The goals are:- Provide a common API at structural and runtime level- Allow tools to interact and integrate directly with the host environment (Pharo)- Support history analysisI started
The problem is that we should not change kernel methods.
I suggest that we use chronos or chalten for localized applications.
Stef
Hi folks.
First make a question, in this list.
StringasDate message assume(harcode way) english date format.. may be..
may be better if the date format to
Thank Stef..
Actually im using chalten in my application, my suggestion was oriented to
replace the hardcode to use the same way such as other chronologycs
constants..
Best
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
The problem is that we should not
Thanks veronica
I hope that people will react and yes having a nice API for most of the tools
is important.
Stef
Dear all,
I am currently working on the Ring, an unifying and foundational model
infrastructure for Pharo.
The goals are:
- Provide a common API at structural and runtime
Hi Colin
Another thing to consider are the clusters. I think they are good
because they avoid a lot of overhead. Following the example used in
the slides, for serializing N rectangles, it writes:
- in vertexes section:
'Rectangle'
'origin'
'corner'
N
- in edges section: 2*N indexes (references
WoW. That's quite ambitious project and will require the huge overhaul
of existing code.
I really hope that you will succeed with it. Do not hesitate asking
for help of advice.
I will try to comment proposal a bit later.
On 10 December 2010 14:32, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez
vuqui...@vub.ac.be
Hi.. Ring will be good improvement.. Thank for you effort
But some comments about your propousal (i may be wrong in some concepts
but, may be this commets will be a guide )
classSymbol vs className, in y opnion classSymbol define better because this
message return a Symbol.. in case className
Noury Bouraqadi-2 wrote:
Object subclasses collection still includes a reference to the class you
created in a different envirenment. It will never be GCed. So, this is a
memory leak!
Aha, okay now I understand:
Object subclasses detect: [ :c | c name = #AClassForTesting ]. Returns:
Hi,
I'd like to compare url's but it doesn't seem to work (as I expect - Pharo 1.1)
ex:
'http://www.pharo-project.org' asUrl = 'http://www.pharo-project.org' asUrl.
= false
What about having:
Url = anotherUrl
^self asText = anotherUrl asText
Do we need to redefine hash too ?
TIA
What about
www.cnn.com asUrl = ( 'cnn.com' asUrl )?
I'm not sure what the right answer to that is - sorry.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Cédrick Béler
What about
'www.cnn.com' asUrl = ( 'cnn.com' asUrl )?
I'm not sure what the right answer to that is - sorry.
should be false to me...
Hi,
I'd like to compare url's but it doesn't seem to work (as I expect - Pharo
1.1)
ex:
'http://www.pharo-project.org' asUrl =
Hi all,
The Ruby guys have a really nifty tool for code documentation (mainly
per-class, per-method etc, but README files are used as well and can
serve for tutorials). It's called Yard: http://yardoc.org/
Typically it's used to generate documentation, like javadoc, but it
can run as a web
Status: Accepted
Owner: siguctua
Labels: Milestone-1.3
New issue 3399 by siguctua: SystemNavigation should directly use
CompiledMethods instead of their wrapper where its appropriate
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3399
SystemNavigation exposing the currently running system
Updates:
Status: Fixed
Comment #1 on issue 3386 by siguctua: DosFileDirectory checkName:
aFileName fixErrors: fixing
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3386
(No comment was entered for this change.)
Updates:
Status: Fixed
Comment #1 on issue 3398 by siguctua: SystemNavigation and
SourcedMethodReference
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3398
(No comment was entered for this change.)
Updates:
Labels: Milestone-1.2
Comment #7 on issue 3283 by siguctua: Symbol dependencie
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3283
(No comment was entered for this change.)
Comment #2 on issue 3263 by siguctua: Add a followingBytecode to
InstructionStream
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3263
it would be nice to have a test, which covering this refactoring
Updates:
Status: Closed
Comment #13 on issue 3254 by siguctua: [Repackage] Regular expressions
should be well structured
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3254
(No comment was entered for this change.)
Updates:
Labels: -Milestone-1.2 Milestone-1.3
Comment #4 on issue 3240 by siguctua: be more explicit about attribute
changes to gain another 5-10x speedup
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3240
(No comment was entered for this change.)
Do you think #= is needed for Url ? (ie. do I open an issue ?)
if yes, is the following proposition enough ?
or should it be more precise according to each subclass ?
See you
'http://www.pharo-project.org' asUrl = 'http://www.pharo-project.org' asUrl.
= false
What about having:
On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Damien Pollet wrote:
Hi all,
The Ruby guys have a really nifty tool for code documentation (mainly
per-class, per-method etc, but README files are used as well and can
serve for tutorials). It's called Yard: http://yardoc.org/
Typically it's used to generate
I would really to have that for pharo. Anybody looking for a small project with
a big impact on the community?
On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Damien Pollet wrote:
Hi all,
The Ruby guys have a really nifty tool for code documentation (mainly
per-class, per-method etc, but README files are
Do you think #= is needed for Url ? (ie. do I open an issue ?)
yes.
Now I do not understand why you need to convert to text.
printString should be enough.
if yes, is the following proposition enough ?
or should it be more precise according to each subclass ?
See you
I second your first assertion. However, although I find Chronos a fine package,
I feel this is an interim solution, because we've other places we need i18n
support,
I propose this as subject for the next IRC meeting!
--
Cesar Rabak
Em 10/12/2010 11:58, Stéphane Ducasse
Le 10 déc. 2010 à 18:46, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
Do you think #= is needed for Url ? (ie. do I open an issue ?)
yes.
ok, I'll do that
Now I do not understand why you need to convert to text.
printString should be enough.
true... :)
Do I add
Url hash
self printstring hash
Hi Levente,
2010/12/9 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
It does!
It seems that you did not work in VW2.5 and 3.0 and when parcels
arrived loading was really a big difference
I do not see why this would not the same with Fuel.
No I didn't, but
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I know that someone already manage to compile linux (squeak or cog) VM
with Alien support (plugin I32ABI).
Could someone, send me an already compiled VM? ;-)
BTW, why the compiled linux VM available for
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I know that someone already manage to compile linux (squeak or cog) VM
with Alien support (plugin I32ABI).
Could someone, send me an already compiled VM? ;-)
BTW, why the compiled linux VM available for
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Even if Fuel can be 10x faster, it doesn't really make a difference IMHO.
It would be interesting to thoroughly profile MC to figure where it spends all
its time (with large projects it gets very very slow, like several minutes to
just show the
A year ago I've done this to learn http://magaloma.seasidehosting.st/
(newbie) code is here http://www.squeaksource.com/SimpleWebDoc.html
I won't touch it because I work on other stuff but feel free to try and
ask.
Laurent
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
Status: Started
Owner: da...@teleport.com
Labels: Milestone-1.2
New issue 3400 by da...@teleport.com: doubled '.' at end of line in
RxParserTest#test and #testTranlsatingMatchesUsing not portable
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3400
attempting to load
Updates:
Status: Fixed
Comment #1 on issue 3400 by da...@teleport.com: doubled '.' at end of line
in RxParserTest#test and #testTranlsatingMatchesUsing not portable
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3400
fix is in the PharoInbox...
Name: Regex-Tests-Core-DaleHenrichs.3
thanks for the pointer
On Dec 10, 2010, at 7:40 PM, laurent laffont wrote:
A year ago I've done this to learn http://magaloma.seasidehosting.st/
(newbie) code is here http://www.squeaksource.com/SimpleWebDoc.html
I won't touch it because I work on other stuff but feel free to try and
I've looked over the tests and it looks like all of the match operations
ultimately end up running against a stream, so the fact that the tests
pass on GemStone indicates that the stream behavior is pretty well
covered ... so no obvious holes in the test suite..
Dale
On 12/09/2010 01:41 PM,
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Eliot Miranda wrote:
Hi Levente,
2010/12/9 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
It does!
It seems that you did not work in VW2.5 and 3.0 and when parcels
arrived loading was really a big difference
I do not see why this would
If this approach is taken how much does that change your analysis?
But note that MessageTally is not reliable nowadays.
Why ? since when ?
Note that not writing source to the changes file has ancilliary benefits;
change recovery is now not polluted with package loads and the
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
If this approach is taken how much does that change your analysis?
But note that MessageTally is not reliable nowadays.
Why ? since when ?
It's like this since a long time, but it seems to be worse with Cog. See
2010/12/10 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Eliot Miranda wrote:
Hi Levente,
2010/12/9 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
It does!
It seems that you did not work in VW2.5 and 3.0 and when parcels
arrived loading was really
Effectively, I only tried with the squeak VM on linux.
Sorry, I will also try with the cog one.
Thanks Eliot!
#Luc
2010/12/10 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I know that someone already manage to
here's a similar example
http://soek.goodies.st.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html
Thanks for your help. Because of it, I've found a couple ways around the
issue. Far more important is knowing there are folks out there.I hope to be
useful to the community as I gain experience. Pharo is cool - and I am
grateful Squeak has strong shoulders upon which Pharo can stand.
Thanks
On 10/12/10 8:32 AM, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
Dear all,
I am currently working on the *Ring*, an unifying and foundational model
infrastructure for Pharo.
The goals are:
- Provide a common API at structural and runtime level
- Allow tools to interact and integrate directly with the
hi, i really like the idea, quite a challenge :)
But since you ask for our opinion I really dont like some of the methods'
names specially the ones using the as prefix.
Regards,
Francisco
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Yanni Chiu ya...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/12/10 8:32 AM, Veronica Isabel
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