Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Jimmie Houchin
On 5/5/2011 8:19 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 6 May 2011 01:03, Jimmie Houchinjlhouc...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/5/2011 4:25 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 5 May 2011 21:39, Jimmie Houchinjlhouc...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/5/2011 12:21 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 5 May 2011 18:57, Jimmie

[Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1

2011-05-06 Thread sourav roy
Hi All, Can any one explain me how to establish an ODBC connection in PharoSmalltalk and Database programming (Any document or explanation). ThanksRegards Sourav | Bangalore | India Dear pharoproject ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now!Dear pharoproject ! Get Yourself a cool,

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1

2011-05-06 Thread Markus Fritsche
Hello Sourav, SqueakDBX (http://squeakdbx.org/) has an odbc backend. There was a dedicated ODBC package for squeak once, but I think that has been deprecated. SqueakDBX (soon to be renamed) is actively maintained and supported. Regards, Markus 2011/5/6 sourav roy sourav_ph...@in.com: Hi All,

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1

2011-05-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Hi Sourav, I think you need also to connect to Indian Smalltalkers. There are some at Bengalore. I hope to visit them some day soon. Have a look at the indian Smalltalk mailing-list here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/smalltalkindia/ You could also contact Skrish (in CC). Regards, On

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1

2011-05-06 Thread Alain rastoul
Hi , Googling fof configurationOfODBC will give you the Gofer script to install the odbc packahe in your image. You will find examples on thz squeak wiki (answered from my phone I can't send examples). It's pretty straightforward and works well on pharo 1.1.1, 1.2 and 1.3. Check also the

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Alain rastoul alr@free.fr wrote: Nice vision. I want it now :) I think smalltalk is the best choice for that - you know better than me of course However to make a living with it, it has to interface with other IT systems and standards, so that developers

Re: [Pharo-project] Preferred way of removing slice from Inbox

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 6, 2011, at 12:23 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On May 5, 2011, at 9:00 PM, laurent laffont wrote: Hi, Once a SLICE is integrated in PharoCore, how do you remove it from PharoInbox ?

Re: [Pharo-project] Making cr to autocomplete as well as tab (in Pharo 1.3)

2011-05-06 Thread Johan Brichau
On 06 May 2011, at 04:59, Jimmie Houchin wrote: As I stated in my reply I like the idea of using CR. But you do raise a valid point and demonstrate a valid situation. When CR was in there before, it was absolutely irritating. I had to put a space before hitting return just to prevent a

Re: [Pharo-project] Preferred way of removing slice from Inbox

2011-05-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On May 6, 2011, at 12:23 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On May 5, 2011, at 9:00 PM, laurent laffont wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 6, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Alain rastoul wrote: Nice vision. I want it now :) I think smalltalk is the best choice for that - you know better than me of course However to make a living with it, it has to interface with other IT systems and standards, so that developers can make an sell

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Igor We should face it: the FFI and Alien... are not that simple. Laurent spent time to try to cnnect to libs and it did not work. So we should really improve that aspect. Igor not everbody is able to code in assembler for nativeboost. So NB is probably a good insfrastructure but not ready for

Re: [Pharo-project] Making cr to autocomplete as well as tab (in Pharo 1.3)

2011-05-06 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On 6 May 2011, at 10:06, Johan Brichau wrote: On 06 May 2011, at 04:59, Jimmie Houchin wrote: As I stated in my reply I like the idea of using CR. But you do raise a valid point and demonstrate a valid situation. When CR was in there before, it was absolutely irritating.

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Alain rastoul
I used odbc-ffi and they are serious problem with the single threaded vm, you can lock the vm with only 2 connections. That's what I want to check with dbx. I m also interested in glorp. . Sqlite is good for standalone or small apps. I'm talking of small to medium business systems from 1-10

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Toon Verwaest
Exactly right. BUT! Very cool job. I'll have a look at it in detail once I start interfacing more thoroughly with real C apps outside of my own natives :) I wonder if being able to extend the object model of Smalltalk for native object wrappers would give you benefit... I guess it would? On

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 6, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Alain rastoul wrote: I used odbc-ffi and they are serious problem with the single threaded vm, you can lock the vm with only 2 connections. That's what I want to check with dbx. I m also interested in glorp. I would really like to have a good layer build on

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stefan Marr
On 06 May 2011, at 10:30, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Igor We should face it: the FFI and Alien... are not that simple. Laurent spent time to try to cnnect to libs and it did not work. So we should really improve that aspect. Igor not everbody is able to code in assembler for nativeboost.

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Alain rastoul alr@free.fr wrote: I used odbc-ffi and they are serious problem with the single threaded vm, you can lock the vm with only 2 connections. In fact with only one. If the query is long, and ODBC doesn't answer until the query is finished...you

[Pharo-project] Relational Databases [WAS] Re: Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On May 6, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Alain rastoul wrote: I used odbc-ffi and they are serious problem with the single threaded vm, you can lock the vm with only 2 connections. That's what I want to check with

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi stefan I disagree with the C integration. This is still not really good in Pharo and I agree with Jimmie. Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system? Or a bug fix? I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Toon Verwaest
So what do you suggest? On 05/06/2011 10:55 AM, Stefan Marr wrote: On 06 May 2011, at 10:30, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Igor We should face it: the FFI and Alien... are not that simple. Laurent spent time to try to cnnect to libs and it did not work. So we should really improve that aspect.

Re: [Pharo-project] Relational Databases [WAS] Re: Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I used odbc-ffi and they are serious problem with the single threaded vm, you can lock the vm with only 2 connections. That's what I want to check with dbx. I m also interested in glorp. I would really like to have a good layer build on glorp to support easy CRUDE in Smalltalk The

Re: [Pharo-project] Relational Databases [WAS] Re: Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On May 6, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Alain rastoul wrote: I used odbc-ffi and they are serious problem with the single

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system? Or a bug fix? I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome comments/examples help. No need to get into a cat-fight here :) No this is not my point. But what do people

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 06 May 2011, at 10:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I would really like to have a good layer build on glorp to support easy CRUDE in Smalltalk The problem of Glorp was that it is a bit heavyweight. Actually, IMHO, it would be a waste to dismiss Glorp as being too old or too complex. It is a

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Toon Verwaest
If this is just to spit out class comment on html I do not call that a documentation. Now we can take the book contents and generate html We have 350 pages in the first book and the same in the second one. People are free to join and write one or two chapters. Generating HTML already seems

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On May 6, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 06 May 2011, at 10:55, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I would really like to have a good layer build on glorp to support easy CRUDE in Smalltalk The problem of Glorp was that it is a bit heavyweight. Actually, IMHO, it would be a

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 06 May 2011, at 11:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system? Or a bug fix? I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome comments/examples help. No need to get into a cat-fight

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Toon Verwaest toon.verwa...@gmail.com wrote: Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system? Or a bug fix? I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome comments/examples help. No need

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Probably we should find a way to generate HTML from PDF or Latex. Any ideas? Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system? Or a bug fix? I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome comments/examples help. No need

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 05/06/2011 11:30 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Toon Verwaesttoon.verwa...@gmail.com wrote: Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system? Or a bug fix? I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing.

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Regards, Something like the Pharo book that would contain also explanation about the language itself (and its libraries) would be great. Something like teach yourself scheme in fixnum days for Smalltalk. I loved the teach yourself scheme in fixnum days may be you should open the pdf of

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Alain rastoul
Databases are heavy, I had a look at glorp tutorial pointed to by glorp.org, it seems pretty good. Perhaps few helpers or tools on top of it could simplify. On Fri, 6 May 2011 10:55:41 +0200, Stéphane Ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: The problem of Glorp was that it is a bit

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Lorenzo Schiavina
Great Stef! Lorenzo - Original Message - From: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry Igor We should face it: the FFI and

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Toon Verwaest
On 05/06/2011 11:40 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Regards, Something like the Pharo book that would contain also explanation about the language itself (and its libraries) would be great. Something like teach yourself scheme in fixnum days for Smalltalk. I loved the teach yourself scheme in

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread laurent laffont
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Probably we should find a way to generate HTML from PDF or Latex. Any ideas? I've used latex2html several years ago. +1 for html Laurent. Now for the documentation when did you send an help

Re: [Pharo-project] Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Yes this is my point. Stef Databases are heavy, I had a look at glorp tutorial pointed to by glorp.org, it seems pretty good. Perhaps few helpers or tools on top of it could simplify. On Fri, 6 May 2011 10:55:41 +0200, Stéphane Ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: The problem of

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok if some good souls want to give a try to generate html. Stef Probably we should find a way to generate HTML from PDF or Latex. Any ideas? I've used latex2html several years ago. +1 for html Laurent. Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Guys, this is crazy, this is a runaway thread ;) Please, please, a bit more empathy for newcomers would not hurt: change the subject in such cases. Welcome to Sourav, don't be afraid to ask this list for anything obscure. and congratulations to Toon for initial answer. Nicolas 2011/5/6 Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stefan Marr
Sorry for the flam below. I didn't have the time and energy to rewrite it. Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system? Or a bug fix? I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome comments/examples help. No, I

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Johan Brichau
On 06 May 2011, at 12:57, Stefan Marr wrote: Unfortunately, Smalltalkers don't know anything outside the image... Exactly, and most of the time, it's all you need. I remark a funny difference between developing in Smalltalk and developing in any other language (say, Java, Javascript,

[Pharo-project] PetitParser puzzle

2011-05-06 Thread Damien Pollet
I have a unit test for a parser of mine: testLine self fail: 'Just a line.' rule: #lineBlank.passes self parse: 'Just a line.' rule: #lineNonBlank. passes self parse: 'Just a line.' rule: #line. end of input expected at 0 Now the fun part:

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread sourav roy
HI All,I really got lost into this thread and was blown by the conversation which took place here ;). but i feel good as this has led people to think about the need for a serious documentation. And i feel it will be much welcome by the newbies to Smalltalk and will help in popularizing

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

2011-05-06 Thread laurent laffont
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Ok if some good souls want to give a try to generate html. On OSX with MacTex-2010 installed, I've tried git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoByExample-english.git cd

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 06 May 2011, at 13:56, Johan Brichau wrote: When I program in Smalltalk, I have a lot of open code browsers in my image When I program in Java/Javascript/..., I have a lot of open web pages on my desktop + Browsing in a Smalltalk image should be self-documenting, not just because of

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1

2011-05-06 Thread sourav roy
Great...Thanks for the info...This will really help me in exploring Smalltalk.RegardsSourav | Bangalore | India Original message From:Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com Date: 6 May 11 12:59:30Subject: Re: [Pharoproject] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1To:

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 May 2011 10:30, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Igor We should face it: the FFI and Alien... are not that simple. Laurent spent time to try to cnnect to libs and it did not work. So we should really improve that aspect. Igor not everbody is able to code in assembler

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 May 2011 08:04, Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/5/2011 8:19 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 6 May 2011 01:03, Jimmie Houchinjlhouc...@gmail.com  wrote: On 5/5/2011 4:25 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 5 May 2011 21:39, Jimmie Houchinjlhouc...@gmail.com  wrote: On 5/5/2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2011/5/6 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com But just don't fall into delusion, that you can start using external library (either written in C or C# or in Java), without knowing at all the foreign language in which library are written, and just after few mouse clicks in Pharo image. Hello, In

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 May 2011 15:42, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/5/6 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com But just don't fall into delusion, that you can start using external library (either written in C or C# or in Java), without knowing at all the foreign language in which library are

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 May 2011 07:11, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2011 01:03, Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/5/2011 4:25 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 5 May 2011 21:39, Jimmie Houchin

[Pharo-project] Instantiations forum moved to forum.world.st!

2011-05-06 Thread Geert Claes
I am happy to announce that Instantions' forum has joined all the other forums on http://forum.world.st forum.world.st and is now available at http://forum.world.st/Instantiations-f3404935.html forum.world.st/Instantiations-f3404935.html -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-project] Instantiations forum moved to forum.world.st!

2011-05-06 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Thanks Geert. Your efforts in world.st are incredible valuable for the Smalltalk community! cheers mariano On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.comwrote: I am happy to announce that Instantions' forum has joined all the other forums on http://forum.world.st

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Dave Mason
On May 6, 2011, at 05:25, Toon Verwaest wrote: If this is just to spit out class comment on html I do not call that a documentation. Now we can take the book contents and generate html We have 350 pages in the first book and the same in the second one. People are free to join and write one

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Miguel Cobá
El vie, 06-05-2011 a las 12:57 +0200, Stefan Marr escribió: Sorry for the flam below. I didn't have the time and energy to rewrite it. Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system? Or a bug fix? I find quite funny that people always

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I installed pdf to html but I could not make it run :( On May 6, 2011, at 2:05 PM, laurent laffont wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Ok if some good souls want to give a try to generate html. On OSX with MacTex-2010 installed, I've

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
ok you win a bit ;) On May 6, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 6 May 2011 15:42, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/5/6 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com But just don't fall into delusion, that you can start using external library (either written in C or C# or

[Pharo-project] What is Configuration? (was: Re: [squeak-dev] Personalized systems with Treated)

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Muller
Chris. Metacello scripts are object specs and to me this is just great because they are objects and with objects we can do a lot. Checking, transforming.. So of course hacking a little script is fast and Metacello requires some care but I can tell you that for us this is **hyper**

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stefan Marr
(And some more flame war here) On 06 May 2011, at 17:11, Miguel Cobá wrote: No need to get into a cat-fight here :) No this is not my point. But what do people really do to help? Stef, if you haven't noticed: I don't care about Smalltalk, and I don't care about Pharo, or any other

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread laurent laffont
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2011 07:11, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2011 01:03, Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [Pharo-project] PBE in HTML [was: Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry]

2011-05-06 Thread laurent laffont
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: I installed pdf to html but I could not make it run :( htlatex seems OK, we can start with this. Need to supply a nice CSS though. I will try to find some time to play with (help always welcome :) Laurent. On

Re: [Pharo-project] PetitParser puzzle

2011-05-06 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 06.05.2011 um 13:59 schrieb Damien Pollet: I have a unit test for a parser of mine: testLine self fail: 'Just a line.' rule: #lineBlank.passes self parse: 'Just a line.' rule: #lineNonBlank. passes self parse: 'Just a line.' rule: #line.

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Miguel Cobá
El vie, 06-05-2011 a las 18:32 +0200, Stefan Marr escribió: (And some more flame war here) On 06 May 2011, at 17:11, Miguel Cobá wrote: No need to get into a cat-fight here :) No this is not my point. But what do people really do to help? Stef, if you haven't noticed: I don't care

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread laurent laffont
Indeed, one thing FFI / Alien / NB don't have is a documentation as nice as http://docs.python.org/library/ctypes.html in http://book.pharo-project.org/ FFI / Alien / NB may be powerful, it seems I've never managed to do what I want, even with all mailing lists support (search mails

Re: [Pharo-project] PetitParser puzzle

2011-05-06 Thread Norbert Hartl
Oops, sorry, I was too quick the last reply. Norbert Am 06.05.2011 um 13:59 schrieb Damien Pollet: I have a unit test for a parser of mine: testLine self fail: 'Just a line.' rule: #lineBlank.passes self parse: 'Just a line.' rule: #lineNonBlank. passes

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 May 2011 18:32, Stefan Marr ph...@stefan-marr.de wrote: (And some more flame war here) On 06 May 2011, at 17:11, Miguel Cobá wrote: No need to get into a cat-fight here :) No this is not my point. But what do people really do to help? Stef, if you haven't noticed: I don't care about

Re: [Pharo-project] PetitParser puzzle

2011-05-06 Thread Norbert Hartl
Ok, next try. Am 06.05.2011 um 13:59 schrieb Damien Pollet: I have a unit test for a parser of mine: testLine self fail: 'Just a line.' rule: #lineBlank.passes self parse: 'Just a line.' rule: #lineNonBlank. passes self parse: 'Just a line.' rule: #line.

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 May 2011 18:45, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Is it works because someone already provided a bindings for libraries you mention, or you did it by yourself? Have just used ctypes: import ctypes

[Pharo-project] Send a notification

2011-05-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! Together with Ivan we have been looking for an easy way to send notifications. We first thought about sending email directly from Pharo, but apparently it is not easy to send email. Anyone has experience with this? We then thought about emitting twitts, but there is a need to authorize the

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Dave Mason
On May 6, 2011, at 13:25, Igor Stasenko wrote: Seriously, if you want such kind of shitty interface, which allows you to call arbitrary function with arbitrary arguments without any argument type checking, i can write it for you. Well, yes, actually. If it means they can access the big wide

[Pharo-project] doesNotUnderstand:/createActualMessageTo: for zero-argument sends appears to imply the need for an extra stack slot in methods

2011-05-06 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi All, could you check my reasoning here. I think I've found a serious bug in the VM with doesNotUnderstand: processing for zero-argument sends and the calculation of the necessary stack size in MethodNodegenerate:* (senders of CompiledMethodneedsFrameSize:). The bug causes a push beyond

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Joseph T. Bore
On May 6, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: Seriously, if you want such kind of shitty interface, which allows you to call arbitrary function with arbitrary arguments without any argument type checking, i can write it for you. call me crazy but: yes i would like that interface.

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread laurent laffont
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.eduwrote: No real agenda either way here, except to say that we almost have that in FFI. If you know enough to make the call, do you not know enough to write the FFI wrapper? Just asking. Having stirred the broth, I'll shut

Re: [Pharo-project] Send a notification

2011-05-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
As long as your SMTP doesn't require encryption this is simple: Use MailSender that comes with every Pharo image. Seaside provides some objects on top of that, so that you don't have to assemble the message by hand. Ok, we will check We then thought about emitting twitts, but there is a

[Pharo-project] Recent changes on Pharo 1.3: ObjectStringConverter don´t works like ObjectTransformedStringConverter

2011-05-06 Thread nullPointer
I see now a change on Pharo 1.3 in the way for configure a text field for accept only numeric values. Before I configure a text field of that way: aNumericTextField converter: ((ObjectTransformedStringConverter forClass: Integer) transformBlock: [:s | s select:

Re: [Pharo-project] Send a notification

2011-05-06 Thread Jan van de Sandt
On May 6, 2011 8:45 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: As long as your SMTP doesn't require encryption this is simple: Use MailSender that comes with every Pharo image. Seaside provides some objects on top of that, so that you don't have to assemble the message by hand.

[Pharo-project] ODBC Connection in Pharo 1.1.1

2011-05-06 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Did you see: http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/12/access-database-through-odbc.html -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone

Re: [Pharo-project] Send a notification

2011-05-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Thanks, Alexandre On 6 May 2011, at 15:59, Jan van de Sandt wrote: On May 6, 2011 8:45 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: As long as your SMTP doesn't require encryption this is simple: Use MailSender that comes with every Pharo image. Seaside provides some

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread laurent laffont
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.eduwrote: Laurent, I am starting to understand your pain, or at least how it manifests itself in my world. First, the search path for libraries (Unix VM) can be a problem, not because of how it works, but because it does not

Re: [Pharo-project] DBXTalk (SqueakDBX) goes to Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Alain rastoul
++ :) Will test mssql asap (next week) On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:39:43 +0200, Stéphane Ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: +1 -- Alain_rastoul

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] 60 - DirectoryURI

2011-05-06 Thread laurent laffont
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:21 PM, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.comwrote: Today: DirectoryURI This class is empty and only referenced in URI class, could be replaced by HierarchicalURI Should we remove / deprecate it ? Laurent. Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One

Re: [Pharo-project] Relational Databases [WAS] Re: Nile tests red - Pharo 1.3

2011-05-06 Thread Alain rastoul
Cool. Looks like really worth to have a look at dbxtalk -- Alain_rastoul

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
We might be able to introduce a way to look for a mangled match, proceeding if it it unique, or something like that?? I have just dealt with it by finding the exported name and putting in the call definition. From:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 60 - DirectoryURI

2011-05-06 Thread Guillermo Polito
I'd love to :). And OpaqueUri can be removed by just adding an attribute to URI for the boolean ;) On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:06 PM, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:21 PM, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Today: DirectoryURI This

Re: [Pharo-project] Instantiations forum moved to forum.world.st!

2011-05-06 Thread Germán Arduino
Agree, great work Geert. 2011/5/6 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: Thanks Geert. Your efforts in world.st are incredible valuable for the Smalltalk community! cheers mariano On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com wrote: I am happy to announce

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 May 2011 23:45, Stefan Marr ph...@stefan-marr.de wrote: On 06 May 2011, at 19:08, Igor Stasenko wrote: I think the main reason why RoarVM does not exists for Pharo is because there was no discussion and planning beforehead, how we could cooperate. Where the discussion, how we could

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 6 May 2011 19:47, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2011 18:45, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Is

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Stefan Marr
On 07 May 2011, at 02:06, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 6 May 2011 23:45, Stefan Marr ph...@stefan-marr.de wrote: There is nothing fundamental in the RoarVM that is changing the language semantics of Smalltalk. It is just that for: `[do something] fork` you will have to assume that it is

Re: [Pharo-project] Tutorial on Announcements

2011-05-06 Thread DougEdmunds
http://forum.world.st/file/n3504921/wiki_GUI.png Snapshot of the GUI created in the tutorial. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Tutorial-on-Announcements-tp3485040p3504921.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] Instantiations forum moved to forum.world.st!

2011-05-06 Thread Geert Claes
Big thanks to John O'Keefe from Instantiation! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Instantiations-forum-moved-to-forum-world-st-tp3502905p3505057.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

2011-05-06 Thread Michael Haupt
Hi Igor, Am 07.05.2011 um 02:06 schrieb Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com: Heh.. then we're 99% done. Except that this last 1% is still could take years to complete :) you serious? Making a Smalltalk image thread-safe is that hard? I can tell you more: there is no business cases for VM(s)