Re: [Pharo-project] latest filesystem is unloadable

2011-08-16 Thread Max Leske
cwp is Colin Putney, the godfather of Filesystem :) On 16.08.2011, at 01:06, Camillo Bruni wrote: The issue is the Version FS-Disk-cwp.2 which introduces most probably a rename and pushed down the Primitive var. Seems like whoever (cwp? I'd appreciate long names…) committed it forgot a

[Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Johannes Rasche
Hi all, especially Sean assume my recent posting has been overseen, therefore again: I'm referring to Sean's harvesting of Sophie. Is somebody going to finalize this Quicktime harvesting ? If not, I'm offering to do that job. A few remarks, what has to be done from my point of view (must not

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] building Cog on 64 bits debian

2011-08-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Done. Thanks a lot Laurent. I like when non-vm-hackers are able to contribute as well. Cheers On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:38 PM, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Igor, now it works well. I've created CogOnDebian64Config but I cannot commit to VMMaker repository. So you can

[Pharo-project] seaside #stable on pharo.13?

2011-08-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, The ConfiguraitonOfSeaside does not define any #stable version for Pharo 1.3. Is it intentional or is it simply because the configuration is not up to date? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef.

Re: [Pharo-project] seaside #stable on pharo.13?

2011-08-16 Thread Marcus Denker
On Aug 16, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, The ConfiguraitonOfSeaside does not define any #stable version for Pharo 1.3. Is it intentional or is it simply because the configuration is not up to date? The configuration is not up to date... would be nice to fix it. And it would

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Marcus Denker
On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Johannes Rasche wrote: Hi all, especially Sean assume my recent posting has been overseen, therefore again: I'm referring to Sean's harvesting of Sophie. Is somebody going to finalize this Quicktime harvesting ? What is the license? -- Marcus Denker

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] seaside #stable on pharo.13?

2011-08-16 Thread Lukas Renggli
All the latest packages work well in Pharo 1.3, especially in combination with Zinc (so the dependency to Kom could be removed). Lukas On Tuesday, 16 August 2011, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Aug 16, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, The ConfiguraitonOfSeaside

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Johannes Rasche
as you may know Sophie project is now rewritten in Java the license is: http://www.sophie2.org/users/licensing.html I would ask them, whether the same conditions apply for the Smalltalk code Am 16.08.2011 um 12:24 schrieb Marcus Denker: On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Johannes Rasche wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Frank Shearar
Surely the Smalltalk part's covered by _this_ licence? http://www.futureofthebook.org/sophie/about/license/ As opposed to the licence for Sophie 2.0. frank On 16 August 2011 12:45, Johannes Rasche johannesras...@mac.com wrote: as you may know Sophie project is now rewritten in Java the

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] building Cog on 64 bits debian

2011-08-16 Thread laurent laffont
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Done. Thanks a lot Laurent. I like when non-vm-hackers are able to contribute as well. :) Laurent Cheers On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:38 PM, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Johannes Rasche
meaning ? Am 16.08.2011 um 13:49 schrieb Frank Shearar: Surely the Smalltalk part's covered by _this_ licence? http://www.futureofthebook.org/sophie/about/license/ As opposed to the licence for Sophie 2.0. frank On 16 August 2011 12:45, Johannes Rasche johannesras...@mac.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Frank Shearar
Meaning that anything ripped out of Sophie 1.0 should be (or is, rather) covered by an MIT licence, rather than Sophie 2.0's licence. Which is a good thing! frank - Original Message - From: Johannes Rasche johannesras...@mac.com Sent: 16 August 2011 14:17 To:

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Johannes Rasche wrote: Is somebody going to finalize this Quicktime harvesting ? Yes, you are apparently, lol! Here are the relevant discussions, some of which may help: http://forum.world.st/Sophie-MPEG-Player-td2341744.html

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote: What is the license? After reading it over at the time, I wrote (http://forum.world.st/ANN-SqueakMovieMorph-Alpha-plays-any-video-file-playable-by-QuickTime-td3168532.html#a3169711) : It seems the only requirement is to include the license text with the code, so

[Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Torsten Bergmann
frank wrote: Meaning that anything ripped out of Sophie 1.0 should be (or is, rather) covered by an MIT licence, rather than Sophie 2.0's licence. Which is a good thing! Sophie 2.0 is ECL: http://www.sophie2.org/users/licensing.html Sophie 1.0 is BSD:

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Frank Shearar
On 16 August 2011 14:33, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: frank wrote: Meaning that anything ripped out of Sophie 1.0 should be (or is, rather) covered by an MIT licence, rather than Sophie 2.0's licence. Which is a good thing! Sophie 2.0 is ECL:  

[Pharo-project] Congratulations on help system

2011-08-16 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Max Leske wrote: Just wanted to let the people who wrote the Pharo help system know that I think you did a great job. Thank you, I tried to do my best when I wrote it. But as always there is room for improvement. While I'm at it, I'll also write a small help part for Filesystem. Cool, would

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Marcus Denker
On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: On 16 August 2011 14:33, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: frank wrote: Meaning that anything ripped out of Sophie 1.0 should be (or is, rather) covered by an MIT licence, rather than Sophie 2.0's licence. Which is a good thing!

Re: [Pharo-project] latest filesystem is unloadable

2011-08-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Doru We did a pass after the integration of FS in 1.4 Now somebody should update the configuration to reflect the changes made. And also check the changes of Colin and get a working version back Stef On Aug 16, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, Continuous integration is there to

Re: [Pharo-project] latest filesystem is unloadable

2011-08-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
sorry 2.0.1 Now what I want to say is that I make sure that 2.0.1 is working. Now I did not check the other files. Camillo did a pass to clean a bit. For 1.4, I guess that we should integrate your changes in 1.4 Now I have no idea what colin did and it this is this change that broke

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Johannes Rasche
Am 16.08.2011 um 15:27 schrieb Sean P. DeNigris: Johannes Rasche wrote: Is somebody going to finalize this Quicktime harvesting ? Yes, you are apparently, lol! OK, that's what I wanted to know Here are the relevant discussions, some of which may help:

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
it is different from www.opensophie.org oops does not exist anymore http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/opensophie.org Stef On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Johannes Rasche wrote: as you may know Sophie project is now rewritten in Java the license is:

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
yes exactly Stef On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: Surely the Smalltalk part's covered by _this_ licence? http://www.futureofthebook.org/sophie/about/license/ As opposed to the licence for Sophie 2.0. frank

Re: [Pharo-project] Quicktime and MP3 harvested from Sophie

2011-08-16 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote: As soon as we add Sophie code, we need to add the Sophie license to the license of Pahro. I assumed we were just talking about making in loadable and useful, not adding it to the image. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-project] Phexample integrated with Autotest and OB (was ConfigurationOfPhexample (was #assert:equals: feels backwards))

2011-08-16 Thread niko . schwarz
Hi Sean! Phexample doesn't duplicate the logic of what is a change method, it changes it. The rational is to allow the user to choose a speaking test name, that accurately describes the test: shouldNicelyHandleNotifications And the like. Is this really in conflict with OB? Niko On

Re: [Pharo-project] Phexample integrated with Autotest and OB (was ConfigurationOfPhexample (was #assert:equals: feels backwards))

2011-08-16 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Niko Schwarz-2 wrote: Phexample doesn't duplicate the logic of what is a change method, it changes it. The rational is to allow the user to choose a speaking test name, that accurately describes the test: Yes, quite nicely in fact! The issue was that the testXxx was hardcoded in OB and

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] building Cog on 64 bits debian

2011-08-16 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 15 August 2011 15:38, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Igor, now it works well. I've created CogOnDebian64Config but I cannot commit to VMMaker repository. So you can get it on: Gofer it   squeaksource: 'LaurentLSandbox';   version: 'CMakeVMMaker-LaurentLaffont.135';

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] building Cog on 64 bits debian

2011-08-16 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 16 August 2011 19:25, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 August 2011 15:38, laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Igor, now it works well. I've created CogOnDebian64Config but I cannot commit to VMMaker repository. So you can get it on: Gofer it   squeaksource:

[Pharo-project] deprecated annotation?

2011-08-16 Thread Igor Stasenko
Hello, i know that we're already having #deprecated: , #deprecated: on: in: etc but one thing what i think useful about annotations that it is a way to indicate that method is deprecated without showing a warning. The problem with using messages, that if you deprecate something which used quite

Re: [Pharo-project] deprecated annotation?

2011-08-16 Thread Igor Stasenko
Currently i run upon this situation, when annotation is the only possible choice: SmalltalkImagevmParameterAt: parameterIndex This method is deprecated. We're not putting a #deprecated: message here, because then it will produce a lot of warnings

[Pharo-project] Building vs. Stone carving (was: some explanations about what we are doing :)

2011-08-16 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Stef/Mariano wrote: So now we are including several packages in the image so that we do not have two images. I am not against this, but I think it is a must to provide a #shrinkToPharoCore and a hudson associated to that. yes good idea Interesting (nearly silent) switch in the way we

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] seaside #stable on pharo.13?

2011-08-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Dale, as the main maintainer of the configuration, would you be available to give a hand with this? Cheers, Doru On 16 Aug 2011, at 13:10, Lukas Renggli wrote: All the latest packages work well in Pharo 1.3, especially in combination with Zinc (so the dependency to Kom could be

Re: [Pharo-project] Building vs. Stone carving (was: some explanations about what we are doing :)

2011-08-16 Thread Igor Stasenko
The root of the problem, that we don't have enough resources to maintain two different images: core and dev. So we decided to keep only one release artifact since 1.4. It will be bigger than existing Pharo-Core, but i think smaller than older Pharo-Dev images. It is all about optimizing our

Re: [Pharo-project] seaside #stable on pharo.13?

2011-08-16 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 16.08.2011 12:23, Marcus Denker wrote: On Aug 16, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, The ConfiguraitonOfSeaside does not define any #stable version for Pharo 1.3. Is it intentional or is it simply because the configuration is not up to date? The configuration is not up

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-fuel] Two nice things I did in 2 hours with Fuel

2011-08-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This clearly opens the door to really amazing experiment. Stef From: Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com Date: August 16, 2011 8:58:03 PM GMT+02:00 To: The Fuel Project pharo-f...@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: [Pharo-fuel] Two nice things I did in 2 hours with Fuel Reply-To: The

Re: [Pharo-project] deprecated annotation?

2011-08-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok you won! But we want a nice comment in all deprecated methods :) Stef On Aug 16, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: Currently i run upon this situation, when annotation is the only possible choice: SmalltalkImagevmParameterAt: parameterIndex This method is deprecated.

Re: [Pharo-project] Building vs. Stone carving (was: some explanations about what we are doing :)

2011-08-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I agree with what igor said. Now give us or join to build one of these items - a fast way to load package (fuel but there is still some work) - a spec for managing packages (metacello) - a set of tests (we have some but we need more) - a bootstrap (with have a mini

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] seaside #stable on pharo.13?

2011-08-16 Thread Dale Henrichs
Doru, When 3.0.5 was released Pharo1.2 support was just added and AFAIK Pharo1.3 was not ... there has been work on Seaside since then and talk of 3.0.6 ... I was planning on doing some configuration maintenance as part of the Seaside sprint after ESUG ... no time to spare before:) Dale

[Pharo-project] squeaksource is down

2011-08-16 Thread Torsten Bergmann
... again -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

Re: [Pharo-project] seaside #stable on pharo.13?

2011-08-16 Thread Dale Henrichs
Doru, The 'Base' group defines the minimal set of packages for Seaside (it does not include OB)... The only thing that you need in addition to 'Base' is to decide which of the Adaptors you want to use and you can have a perfectly functioning Seaside. If you are suggesting that the 'default'

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-fuel] Two nice things I did in 2 hours with Fuel

2011-08-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Well. I don't have a lot of time right now...but between writing things down for myself or making a post there is not that difference. So...here is a post about the Riak integration with Fuel: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/when-fuel-meets-riak-nosql-database/ On Tue, Aug 16, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] squeaksource is down

2011-08-16 Thread Germán Arduino
2011/8/16 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de: ... again -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de yep.. :(

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-fuel] Two nice things I did in 2 hours with Fuel

2011-08-16 Thread Germán Arduino
Thanks by share! and yes, very interesting experiments! 2011/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: Well. I don't have a lot of time right now...but between writing things down for myself or making a post there is not that difference. So...here is a post about the Riak integration

[Pharo-project] Jenkis notification when Squeaksource is down [WAS] Re: [Pharo-fuel] Build failed in Jenkins: Fuel #112

2011-08-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Marcus, is there a way to catch the errors when SqueakSource is down so that to avoid false alarms ? Thanks! On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:38 AM, marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: See http://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Fuel/112/ -- [...truncated 798

[Pharo-project] new Cog VMs available

2011-08-16 Thread Eliot Miranda
in http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2487/. Fix bugs described in the [Pharo-project] Troubles with #flushCache and #run:with:in: thread http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/ 2011-July/050858.html. The PIC machinery wrongly treated invoke-as-method sends as MNUs.

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-fuel] Two nice things I did in 2 hours with Fuel

2011-08-16 Thread Igor Stasenko
I'm not impressed! :) (well done). Your posts are good that they can easily serve as a guide howto install-setup-and use stuff. Next experiment for you: mix Fuel with Magma (we should get some napalm) :) On 17 August 2011 00:14, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Well. I don't

[Pharo-project] Headless image hanging

2011-08-16 Thread Bernat Romagosa
Hi list, I think I asked this a while ago but never managed to find a solution, so here we go: I have an image running under a screen session in my server, it's running my simple blog written in Iliad and nothing else. The image is a Pharo 1.2.1 on a Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter