Re: [Pharo-project] changing the class of an existing object to a subclass

2011-12-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Ben, That's a lot to read. If I'm getting the message, you want to subclass ODBCRow and are concerned about Metacello. Point taken. In hindsight too much background info and a mixed message.

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Benoit St-Jean
What if a class was deleted in Pharo?  What if some methods are missing?  What if it's referring to a Preference while we dumped this in favor of settings ?  What if it's using some Morphic stuff that was cleaned up.  Your comment assumes that everything on SqueakSource is outdated an unusable. 

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Benoit St-Jean
1) readily available, no 2) I was not necessarily thinking about the UI.  For instance, a lot of stuff still references Preferences and break on load. 3) Yeah, I do have a few DOS application that I do care about because, so far, after all those years, they're the best at doing what they were

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 98 - ZipFileConstants

2011-12-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Stéphane Ducasse wrote I defined some constant for the file compression. Thanks, Steph! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Re-Pharo-users-COTDC-98-ZipFileConstants-tp4242780p4243175.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14276

2011-12-29 Thread Benjamin
On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: 14276 - - Issue 5135: Setgrow buggy for sets with nil. Thanks Igor Stasenko. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5135 - Issue 5130: Remove magicHalo behavior.

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 29 December 2011 15:44, Benoit St-Jean bstj...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering what is planned regarding packages available on SqueakSource and Pharo.  More and more packages can't load in Pharo and it gets more and more frustrating not being able to load anything without having to

Re: [Pharo-project] Possible bug in FFI

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Can you try simply removing the method? Stef On Dec 29, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:23 AM, ncalexan ncalexan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Long-time reader, first-time poster. Hi and welcome :) Is FFI fully supported on Pharo? I

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote a clear way of knowing which project/packages are expected to work or not in Pharo. If you take a random package/project from SS there is no way to know that. Having a Pharo catalog/certified packages/projects would help here. Yes, something is needed. Squeak

[Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Benoit St-Jean
I was wondering what is planned regarding packages available on SqueakSource and Pharo.  More and more packages can't load in Pharo and it gets more and more frustrating not being able to load anything without having to add/modify methods/classes all over the place so those packages can load

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14276

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
14276 - - Issue 5135: Setgrow buggy for sets with nil. Thanks Igor Stasenko. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5135 - Issue 5130: Remove magicHalo behavior. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5130 Stef and Igor Hacking HazelTracer

[Pharo-project] Loading projects into changing Pharo

2011-12-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
This is an important question that deserves its own thread... I was wondering what is planned regarding packages available on SqueakSource and Pharo. More and more packages can't load in Pharo and it gets more and more frustrating not being able to load anything without having to

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [COTDC] 98 - ZipFileConstants

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I defined some constant for the file compression. On Dec 28, 2011, at 7:50 PM, s...@clipperadams.com wrote: 97 classes done 798 classes remaining Continuing in Compression... Today: ZipFileConstants Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Benoit Let us start with some concrete questions - Do you have a concrete list of package not working? - Then do you prefer to have a vectorial UI with zomable facilities, clean code or just and old fuzzy bitmap. Same question: do you prefer Zinc and a nice HTTP layer or

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] 98 - ZipFileConstants

2011-12-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ben Coman wrote This class defines magic numbers taken from the PKWARE ZIP Application... Wow! Thanks, Ben. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/COTDC-98-ZipFileConstants-tp4240714p4243171.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] Possible bug in FFI

2011-12-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:23 AM, ncalexan ncalexan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Long-time reader, first-time poster. Hi and welcome :) Is FFI fully supported on Pharo? I installed into the 1.3 OneClick using Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package:

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 December 2011 15:44, Benoit St-Jean bstj...@yahoo.com wrote: I was wondering what is planned regarding packages available on SqueakSource and Pharo. More and more packages can't load in Pharo and it gets more

[Pharo-project] TWM bug when deleting a snapshot

2011-12-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Snapshots are cool! But try this: 1. create two snapshots 2. navigate to the last one 3. delete it Although it is shown removed from the list (i.e. 1/1), you are not automatically navigated back to the first one. You stay on the deleted one, and when you navigate back to the first with the

Re: [Pharo-project] Roeltyper

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Dec 28, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: Yes when I looked at RB (in 99) I guess that they also used existing instances to try to get more information but mainly for instance variables. I am not aware of such code. RBRefactoryTyper is part of the refactoring engine since I first

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread csrabak
Em 29/12/2011 16:48, Benoit St-Jean bstj...@yahoo.com escreveu: Benoit, You rise some important points, this is my attempt to contribute: What if a class was deleted in Pharo?  We should get a thorough analysis of the case and understand if the deleted class does indeed makes its

[Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Torsten Bergmann
While I agree that we have to be radical with throwing out ugly code and the like if we want to reinvent the future ... but if we do not care about external packages than we just work towards a clean Pharo platform that is of no use for anyone. I dont want Pharo to be fully compatible to Squeak

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
For pharo this is simple: create a configurationOf and publish it in MetacelloRepository. I do not have the cycles to put in place what I wanted for Pharo1.2, Pharo1.3 distributions i.e. specific MetacelloRepositories per version so if somebody wants to really get an impact

[Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Stef For pharo this is simple: create a configurationOf and publish it in MetacelloRepository. Yes, http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository is the common repo for the configs. I do not have the cycles to put in place what I wanted for Pharo1.2, Pharo1.3 distributions i.e.

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Benoit St-Jean wrote: What if a class was deleted in Pharo? What if some methods are missing? What if it's referring to a Preference while we dumped this in favor of settings ? What if it's using some Morphic stuff that was cleaned up. Your comment assumes

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Benoit St-Jean wrote: 1) readily available, no ? Again what is the list of package not loading that are important for you. 2) I was not necessarily thinking about the UI. For instance, a lot of stuff still references Preferences and break on load. So what is

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thats why I implemented a Configuration Browser which is accessible from world menu Tools - ConfigurationBrowser. Yes I know and I want it back :) It is a simple tool that should easy loading without all these Gofer and install scripts. Its a simple tool - depending on Pharo version XX

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Dec 29, 2011, at 10:39 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: Hi Stef For pharo this is simple: create a configurationOf and publish it in MetacelloRepository. Yes, http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository is the common repo for the configs. I do not have the cycles to put in

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi torsten I'm not admin so I asked marcus to add us :). I created MetaReportForPharo14 and you are admin. So we can start to play. I would like to load your browser in 1.4. Does it make sense? Stef On Dec 29, 2011, at 10:48 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Unfortunately the

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Launcher app

2011-12-29 Thread Fernando Olivero
Noury, i believe i could build the app targeted a snow leopard as well. Sean, how you would launch the pharo launcher written in pharo? Still need to point to a vm + image, so this was the problem i was solving with this app. I assume that writing such an app, for the remaining OS shouldn't pose

Re: [Pharo-project] TWM doesn't work without keymappins and keymappings doesn't work

2011-12-29 Thread Guillermo Polito
Oh yeah. I always do the same stupid mistake u.u . I have to start using metacello browser d: Thanks! A new configuration with both (recovered) 2.0 and 2.1 versions is in MetacelloRepository. Guille On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Sean P.

[Pharo-project] Help: #pointersTo broken (and fix, but I don't understand why it fixes)

2011-12-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi guys. #pointersTo is broken and that's why some tests of PointerFinderTest are yellow. Few weeks ago, I changed #pointsTo: so that it does not perform primitive 142 but it delegates to a new method #instVarsInclude: which has the primitive 132 now. Before this change, if I open a workspace

[Pharo-project] About ConfigurationOfXMLSupport

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I thought that XMLSupport was about parsing and XMLNode traversal. So why the configuration contains references to SIXX and Grease Core? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] About ConfigurationOfXMLSupport

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Then I do not understand how a stable version can be defined as stable: spec symbolicVersion: #'stable' spec for: #'common' version: '1.2.1'. spec for: #'gemstone' version: '1.1.8'. Because I would really prefer to get stable: spec symbolicVersion: #stable

Re: [Pharo-project] Help: #pointersTo broken (and fix, but I don't understand why it fixes)

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi guys. #pointersTo is broken and that's why some tests of PointerFinderTest are yellow. Few weeks ago, I changed #pointsTo: so that it does not perform primitive 142 but it delegates to a new method #instVarsInclude: which has

[Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Stef, I created MetaReportForPharo14 I already created MetaRepoForPharo14 on squeaksource today with Markus and me as admins. I can add you as admin too but the repo is read/write already. You should delete your MetaReportForPharo14 since this is the wrong name (Report instead of Repo)!

Re: [Pharo-project] Help: #pointersTo broken (and fix, but I don't understand why it fixes)

2011-12-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Moreover, Squeak does anObj isInMemory ifTrue: [((anObj instVarsInclude: self) or: [anObj class == self]) ifTrue: [pointers add: anObj]]. anObj := anObj nextObject]. and it works fine. gr On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:22 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: Hi Stef, I created MetaReportForPharo14 I already created MetaRepoForPharo14 on squeaksource today with Markus and me as admins. I can add you as admin too but the repo is read/write already. You should delete your

Re: [Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Did you delete it You should delete your MetaReportForPharo14 since this is the wrong name (Report instead of Repo)! because I cannot find it.

Re: [Pharo-project] Help: #pointersTo broken (and fix, but I don't understand why it fixes)

2011-12-29 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Mariano, just a tangent for now... On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. #pointersTo is broken and that's why some tests of PointerFinderTest are yellow. Few weeks ago, I changed #pointsTo: so that it does not perform primitive

[Pharo-project] Packages and Pharo and Portability : the 3 Ps !

2011-12-29 Thread Torsten Bergmann
So we should care for 1.3 and not yet for 1.4. since this is what people use. Yes but I use 1.4 for my private projects and this is good to know what works. Yes - but dont use the squeaksource.com/MetaRepoForPharo14 for that. Otherwise we have to clean it up again and again depending on

Re: [Pharo-project] TWM bug when deleting a snapshot

2011-12-29 Thread laurent laffont
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: Snapshots are cool! Still needs some work but something nice seems possible :) But try this: 1. create two snapshots 2. navigate to the last one 3. delete it Although it is shown removed from the list (i.e.

[Pharo-project] Classes referenced in code string

2011-12-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
How would I programmatically find out what classes are referenced in a string. For example: 'Object new. String new' would return { Object. String } -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Classes-referenced-in-code-string-tp4244214p4244214.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-project] Classes referenced in code string

2011-12-29 Thread Lukas Renggli
Can be easily done with RB: You parse it (RBParser parseExpression: aString) and do a semantic analysis (see the tests in AST-Tests-Semantics for examples). Lukas On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: How would I programmatically find out what classes are

Re: [Pharo-project] Classes referenced in code string

2011-12-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Lukas Renggli wrote Can be easily done with RB: You parse it (RBParser parseExpression: aString) and do a semantic analysis (see the tests in AST-Tests-Semantics for examples). Thanks, Lukas! How did I know that you would answer ;-) I got that far, but couldn't figure out what to pass to

[Pharo-project] TWM Bug - different world menu

2011-12-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
When I access the world menu through the TWM bar, some of the items I have registered do not show up. Maybe items added after TWM was loaded do not show up. Anyone else notice this? Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/TWM-Bug-different-world-menu-tp4244649p4244649.html

[Pharo-project] PharoDBX: CogVM vs. OneClickVM

2011-12-29 Thread Torsten Bergmann
I tried PharoDBX with the Pharo 1.3 one click and the provided VM was not able to find the DLLs for OpenDBX on windows. When I used the latest CogVM from Eliot with the same image it worked. Is this already known or did others experience this as well? Thx T. -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min

Re: [Pharo-project] Classes referenced in code string

2011-12-29 Thread Lukas Renggli
On 30 December 2011 01:23, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Lukas Renggli wrote Can be easily done with RB: You parse it (RBParser parseExpression: aString) and do a semantic analysis (see the tests in AST-Tests-Semantics for examples). Thanks, Lukas! How did I know that you