Re: [Pharo-project] CogDroid Beta Test builds

2012-01-09 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 09.01.2012 um 05:06 schrieb Dimitry Golubovsky: This is a temporary location. Hopefully my request for Jenkins account will be granted, and I will be able to set up automatic build jobs for CogDroid. I think putting the build at inria is good to do. If there are reasons why this is not

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I get account on Jenkins?

2012-01-09 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Dimitry Golubovsky wrote: Hi, How can I get an account on Jenkins so I could set up build jobs for CogDroid? Yes, let's see how we set this up. (we can do this off-list) Such way, everybody interested could easily get access to the latest builds. Also, people

Re: [Pharo-project] Small improvement for WriteStream nextPutAll:

2012-01-09 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 09.01.2012 00:18, Eliot Miranda wrote: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com mailto:marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. Some time ago Henry spot to us a small improvement for WriteStream nextPutAll: that we are using in Fuel, but I think

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: What I don't understand is why in Squeak it does work. Because #pointsTo: is not used in Squeak (yet). As usual I dug deeper than I should have, so I'll publish a few changes soon. Ok, you are right. Squeak #inboundPointersExcluding: is

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Of course, but I'd check for the class equality first, because it's faster (yeah, i know you turned off inlining of #class, but Cog doesn't care about that ;)). Are you sure Cog doesn't care? I think it does. From what I can see in Cog code

[Pharo-project] NativeBoost and NBOpenGL on Mac?

2012-01-09 Thread Lawson English
I've had problems installing NativeBoost on Squeak, but it worked reasonably well installing on a Mac. However, TestRunner failed while running the callback tests. This may or may not have anything to do with trying to work with NBOpenGL, which also installs fine on Pharo (but not squeak).

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I get account on Jenkins?

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I will check. I'm not sure that without an inria account you can access it. Now we can set up one. in a month from now we will get a jenkins engineer working in our team. Stef On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:42 AM, Dimitry Golubovsky wrote: Hi, How can I get an account on Jenkins so I could set up

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I get account on Jenkins?

2012-01-09 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jan 9, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I will check. I'm not sure that without an inria account you can access it. Yes, an account for Jenkins is possible. An account on the unix machine not, but all that is needed is editing scripts and that we do via Git. Works fine for Mac VM,

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14280

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
14280 - - Issue 5149: add line in comment of VirtualMachine classparameterAt:. ThanksLuc Fabresse and Mariano Martinez-Peck. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5149 - Issue 5132: CommentReference SourcedMethodReference MethodReference are now deprecated

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi Levente. Thanks for looking into the issue. I saw your code and there is something I don't understand. pointsTo: anObject Answers true if the garbage collector would fail to collect anObject because I hold a reference to it, or false otherwise (self instVarsInclude: anObject)

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in FileSystem

2012-01-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
So, here it is: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5161 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: As for the API: 1) There's no next: into: (which returns the amount read). It's really the only way to do buffers without garbage

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi Levente. Thanks for looking into the issue. I saw your code and there is something I don't understand. pointsTo: anObject Answers true if the garbage collector would fail to collect anObject because I hold a reference to it, or false

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 12:37:59AM +, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Eliot, SOL?? Is that really the message we want to send to current and *prospective* users? Canonical does something that makes sense from a

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi Levente. Thanks for looking into the issue. I saw your code and there is something I don't understand. pointsTo: anObject Answers true if the garbage collector would

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Eliot, Whining - that's a bit much. In fact it is TOTALLY unjustified. Last year, I spent (end to end) months learning how to get away from creating my own hacked vms - that's how I knew about ldconfig's behavior , and have come to appreciate that Canonical got this one right. Recently, I

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Eliot Miranda
I'm definitely not interested in help from someone who flies off the handle like this. Plonk. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.eduwrote: Eliot, Whining - that's a bit much. In fact it is TOTALLY unjustified. Last year, I spent (end to end) months

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi Levente. Thanks for looking into the issue. I saw your code and there is something I don't understand. pointsTo:

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I get account on Jenkins?

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
excellent then! I will check. I'm not sure that without an inria account you can access it. Yes, an account for Jenkins is possible. An account on the unix machine not, but all that is needed is editing scripts and that we do via Git. Works fine for Mac VM, for example.

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I think you have the situation very much in reverse. You are flying off the handle, not me. Cog deserves better than to ignore feedback from motivated users. Motivated users deserve better than to be insulted for their efforts to improve it. From:

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
mariano could you update the comments to reflect this discussion. I would like that the next guy that looks at the code can learn and not be puzzled. Stef On Jan 9, 2012, at 7:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: On Mon,

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14281

2012-01-09 Thread stephane ducasse
14281 - - Issue 2560: Convenient methods from Grease for Strings. Thanks Sven van Caekenberghe. Part Two. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2560

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys I suggest that you both take a good and fresh air. I somehow learned some expressions I do not deeply understand but I prefer when I do not learn them :). I could not get SOL Wikipedia fails on it: Le sol représente la couche superficielle, meuble, de la croûte

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi Levente. Thanks for looking into the issue. I saw

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.eduwrote: I think you have the situation very much in reverse. You are flying off the handle, not me. No, Bill. I'm not interested in a public (or private) argument. But I am not flying off the handle. Your opening

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys I suggest that you both take a good and fresh air. I somehow learned some expressions I do not deeply understand but I prefer when I do not learn them :). I could not get SOL Shit out of luck.

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
So..I am puzzle again. I said In which scenario can (self instVarsInclude: anObject) answer true, but the loop false? you answered: The scenario happens when the receiver has weak slots and the argument is referenced from one of those weak slots, but not from the other slots.

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: So..I am puzzle again. I said In which scenario can (self instVarsInclude: anObject) answer true, but the loop false? you answered: The scenario happens when the receiver has weak slots and the argument is referenced from one of those

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14282

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
14282 - - Issue 2560: Convenient methods from Grease for Strings. Part 4. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2560 - Issue 5161: Small fixes to FSReadStream http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5161 - Issue 5162: Little fix about

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14282

2012-01-09 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 09 Jan 2012, at 20:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: 14282 - - Issue 2560: Convenient methods from Grease for Strings. Part 4. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2560 Thx, up to the next refactoring ;-) Sven

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Eliot, Read Stef's email. Take note that I did the debugging for you. Actually, I did it for all of us, for Pharo, for Smalltalk, and for Linux. That's not how someone with an attitude of entitlement acts. Bill From:

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys I suggest that you both take a good and fresh air. I somehow learned some expressions I do not deeply understand but I prefer when I do not

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14282

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This is my drug. I like improving the system (instead of writing project proposals I must do :). On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 09 Jan 2012, at 20:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: 14282 - - Issue 2560:Convenient methods from Grease for Strings. Part

[Pharo-project] Smalltalk/Pharo User Group in Madrid

2012-01-09 Thread Rafael Luque
Hi all, I'm interested in organizing a Smalltalk/Pharo User Group in Madrid. If any member of the list is algo interested and lives in the Madrid area, please contact me. Thanks, Rafael Luque

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14283

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
14283 - - Issue 2560: Convenient methods from Grease for Strings. Part Five. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2560 Now no excuse anymore: webpage CV to look smart and project proposals… :(

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 09 Jan 2012, at 20:06, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: I think you have the situation very much in reverse. You are flying off the handle, not me. Cog deserves better than to ignore feedback from motivated users. Motivated users deserve better than to be insulted for their efforts to

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk/Pharo User Group in Madrid

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Let us know how we can help you. Stef Hi all, I'm interested in organizing a Smalltalk/Pharo User Group in Madrid. If any member of the list is algo interested and lives in the Madrid area, please contact me. Thanks, Rafael Luque

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:46 06PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: So..I am puzzle again. I said In which scenario can (self instVarsInclude: anObject)

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Henrik Johansen wrote: On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:46 06PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: So..I am puzzle again. I said In which scenario can (self instVarsInclude: anObject) answer true, but the loop false? you answered: The

Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found

2012-01-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
It is common to discuss something before creating tracker entries, and I DID state what I think is wrong and proposed a solution. I've asked for a debate on the merits of the idea, aka, looking for the library where #moduleName says to look, respecting the behavior of dlopen on Ubuntu. I

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:46 06PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: So..I am puzzle

[Pharo-project] Icon sets repo

2012-01-09 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi! today, searching for icons for the DBXBrowser, I imported FamFamFam silk and mini icons (16x16), which have Creative Commons License, with Fernando Olivero's icon importer. I created a public read/write repository for saving icon sets, if anyone wants to use them or contribute, it's here:

Re: [Pharo-project] Small improvement for WriteStream nextPutAll:

2012-01-09 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2012/1/9 Henrik Sperre Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no: On 09.01.2012 00:18, Eliot Miranda wrote: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com mailto:marianop...@gmail.com wrote:    Hi guys. Some time ago Henry spot to us a small improvement for    

Re: [Pharo-project] Icon sets repo

2012-01-09 Thread Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras
where's Fernando's icon importer?? On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.comwrote: Hi! today, searching for icons for the DBXBrowser, I imported FamFamFam silk and mini icons (16x16), which have Creative Commons License, with Fernando Olivero's icon

Re: [Pharo-project] Icon sets repo

2012-01-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks Guillermo! I prefer them over the eclipse license. Stef On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: Hi! today, searching for icons for the DBXBrowser, I imported FamFamFam silk and mini icons (16x16), which have Creative Commons License, with Fernando Olivero's icon

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Ok guyswhat about the following: stronglyPointsTo: anObject Answers true if the garbage collector would fail to collect anObject because I hold a reference to it, or false otherwise (self instVarsInclude: anObject) ifTrue: [ self class isWeak ifFalse: [ ^true ].

Re: [Pharo-project] Icon sets repo

2012-01-09 Thread Guillermo Polito
http://www.squeaksource.com/ExternalIconFamily.html To download it you have to evaluate this: Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfExternalIconFamily'; load. (Smalltalk globals classNamed: 'ConfigurationOfExternalIconFamily') perform: #load. and

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Ok guyswhat about the following: stronglyPointsTo: anObject Answers true if the garbage collector would fail to collect anObject because I hold a reference to it, or false otherwise (self

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2012/1/9 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Ok guyswhat about the following: stronglyPointsTo: anObject     Answers true if the garbage collector would fail to collect anObject because I hold a

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in #pointsTo: ?

2012-01-09 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:00 50PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: 2012/1/9 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Ok guyswhat about the following: stronglyPointsTo: anObject Answers true if the garbage

Re: [Pharo-project] NativeBoost and NBOpenGL on Mac?

2012-01-09 Thread ncalexan
Lawson English-2 wrote I've had problems installing NativeBoost on Squeak, but it worked reasonably well installing on a Mac. However, TestRunner failed while running the callback tests. This may or may not have anything to do with trying to work with NBOpenGL, which also installs

[Pharo-project] Optimisation / Simplification ...

2012-01-09 Thread James Ladd
While implementing Redline Smalltalk it occurred to me that methods and blocks are the same things, making the use of blocks to represent methods a possible optimisation or simplification to the internal of any Smalltalk implementation. For example, at: key put: value statements here Is

Re: [Pharo-project] Most wanted programming language:

2012-01-09 Thread Guido Stepken
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Smalltalk ... hmmm are Smalltalkers sure to realize whats ging on in the world? Have fun, Guido Stepken

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in FileSystem

2012-01-09 Thread csrabak
But what if count makes handle pass over the end of the file? -- Cesar Rabak Em 07/01/2012 10:10, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com escreveu: FSReadStream next: count | result | result := ByteArray new: count. handle at: position read: result startingAt: 1 count: count.

Re: [Pharo-project] Most wanted programming language:

2012-01-09 Thread Dennis Schetinin
Yes, we do: the (outer) world is getting worse and worse :) 2012/1/10 Guido Stepken gstep...@googlemail.com http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Smalltalk ... hmmm are Smalltalkers sure to realize whats ging on in the world? Have fun, Guido Stepken --