[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14318

2012-02-07 Thread Marcus Denker
14318 - Issue 5260: Add a method on Browser class http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5260 Issue 5259: Minor Fix in PLuggableListMorph http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5259 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

[Pharo-project] Slides Pharo talk Fosdem

2012-02-07 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, I have put the slides online: -Slides SlideShare http://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/pharo-next-steps -Slides PDF http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/archives/talks/2012-Fosdem-Denker-Pharo.pdf The slides are more or less the same as at Smalltalks. Adriaan van Os has some

Re: [Pharo-project] Slides Pharo talk Fosdem

2012-02-07 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 02/07/2012 02:15 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, I have put the slides online: -Slides SlideShare http://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/pharo-next-steps -Slides PDF http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/archives/talks/2012-Fosdem-Denker-Pharo.pdf Thanks for the PDF slides! Cheers

[Pharo-project] Trusting Trust

2012-02-07 Thread Ben Coman
This is slightly paranoid thinking, but considering the long evolution of Smalltalk live images (apparently all the way from the original Xerox PARC ST80 [1] ) in relation to Ken Thompson's Reflections on Trusting Trust [2] - are there any mechanisms to prevent trojan code living undetected

[Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
saying that SqueakSource down. or it is down only for me , such an unlucky guy? :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Re: [Pharo-project] Trusting Trust

2012-02-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 7 February 2012 15:47, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: This is slightly paranoid thinking, but considering the long evolution of Smalltalk live images (apparently all the way from the original Xerox PARC ST80 [1] ) in relation to Ken Thompson's Reflections on Trusting Trust [2] - are

Re: [Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-07 Thread Frank Shearar
On 7 February 2012 15:08, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: saying that SqueakSource down. or it is down only for me , such an unlucky guy? :) Looks like it's dead. The machine's alive, and the HTTP server's alive though. frank

[Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Friends, I know it's not a popular position, but I consider Metacello to be poorly factored, unstable, and a bit confusing. How many times do we type things like: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Fuel'; package: 'ConfigurationOfFuel'; load. (Smalltalk at:

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Frank Shearar
On 7 February 2012 16:12, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote: Friends, I know it's not a popular position, but I consider Metacello to be poorly factored, unstable, and a bit confusing. Would you please expand a bit on the above? Confusing, I'll happily agree with, but then

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Bill, With the next release of Metacello I am planning to include a scripting API where you will write scripts like the following: Metacello new project: 'Seaside30'; load. or: Metacello new project: 'Seaside30'; squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; version:

Re: [Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-07 Thread Steve Wart
Isn't there a mirror somewhere? Seems like it's always down. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.comwrote: On 7 February 2012 15:08, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: saying that SqueakSource down. or it is down only for me , such an unlucky guy? :)

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Frank nailed it by saying that the network should be last resort. I am *really* flailing out here, ok :) Nothing works, and the ability to download and use from a local cache would be a HUGE() help, I suspect. Frank took the words right out of my keyboard (and said it better than I would

[Pharo-project] Resource Descriptor Framework

2012-02-07 Thread Ben Coman
Is there much being done with Resource Description Framework in Squeak/Pharo? I have some RDF data files that I need to load for my masters project and am seeking advice on how to approach this. I am only just learning about RDF for the first time. For anyone else interested the best

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Feb 2012, at 17:58, Dale Henrichs wrote: With the next release of Metacello I am planning to include a scripting API where you will write scripts like the following: Metacello new project: 'Seaside30'; load. or: Metacello new project: 'Seaside30';

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Feb 2012, at 18:42, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Frank nailed it by saying that the network should be last resort. I am *really* flailing out here, ok :) Nothing works, and the ability to download and use from a local cache would be a HUGE() help, I suspect. Frank took the words

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2012/2/7 Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com: On 7 February 2012 16:12, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote: Friends, I know it's not a popular position, but I consider Metacello to be poorly factored, unstable, and a bit confusing. Would you please expand a bit on the above?

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
It IS killing the experience, and the error handling is too optimistic for its own good, I think?? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sven Van Caekenberghe [s...@beta9.be]

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Feb 2012, at 19:05, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: It IS killing the experience, and the error handling is too optimistic for its own good, I think?? Well, I am on the side of signalling all exceptional situations immediately. There is no excuse for silently ignoring the fact that a download

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Bill, Have you tried using the SqueakSource mirror. There are instructions here[1] for configuring your Pharo image to seamlessly switch to using the mirror site. I haven't personally used the mirror, but it looks like exactly the solution you want: MRManager redirectFrom:

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
+100 :) As it is, the image melts down into a retry hell that I can't break and seems to no chance of succeeding. I probably have made mistakes (Migrate has evolved with *every* release of Dolphin and now Pharo). Change is the nature of software, and tweaking loaders goes along for the ride.

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Bill, I'm not exactly sure what your real problem is ... there are downsides to all workarounds, but if using the mirrored SqueakSource site doesn't work for you (personally that looks like the best solution to a flakey SqueakSource), you can arrange to create a local disk-based repository of

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14319

2012-02-07 Thread Marcus Denker
14319 - Issue 5258: Another minor fix in Abstract Tool http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5258 Issue 5257: Minor fix in Abstract Tool http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5257 Issue 5262: PLuggableMultiColumnListMorph issue

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14320 + 14321

2012-02-07 Thread Marcus Denker
14320 + 14321 -- Issue 4813: MethodWrapper related fixes from Eliot http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4813 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Dale, That sounds good. Is the mirror http://www.dsal.cl/squeaksource/ ? I want to be sure I use the correct one. I will report specifics as I identify them. The discussion here today has been helpful. It's broke wasn't much good, but that was about all I could tell until you guys helped

Re: [Pharo-project] Building images

2012-02-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Bill, Follow the link that I gave you for the mirror as the details are there... Dale - Original Message - | From: Wilhelm K Schwab bsch...@anest.ufl.edu | To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:09:13 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Building

Re: [Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-07 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Steve Wart st...@wart.ca wrote: Isn't there a mirror somewhere? Yes, in Chile. Search the mailing list. I however, choose something different: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/migrating-projects-to-squeaksource3/ Seems like it's always down. On

[Pharo-project] Migrating to Gemstone

2012-02-07 Thread Benjamin
Would it be possible to write some kind of import / migrate script for ss3.gemstone.com? The following lines copy the complete version history to an *existing* project on gemstone: Gofer new url: 'http:/squeaksource.com/FOO'; package: 'FOO'; package:

Re: [Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 07 Feb 2012, at 16:58, Frank Shearar wrote: Looks like it's dead. The machine's alive, and the HTTP server's alive though. Where is SmalltalkHub ? Last time it was publically available for testing it looked quite good. What is holding it back ? Sven

Re: [Pharo-project] Resource Descriptor Framework

2012-02-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I am not aware of RDF support in Pharo. But, it would be definitely be cool to have one, in particular in the context of Moose. If Rakaiko has it, I would be interested. Let us know what you find. Regarding XML, the more mature solution is XMLSupport. PetitXml is nice because it is based

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Kiwi: BDD tool for Pharo

2012-02-07 Thread Nahuel Garbezza
Hi all, I started to work with this a few months ago. Kiwi is a Behaviour-Driven development tool, inspired on Cucumber (http://cukes.info). Here's the SqueakSource project url: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Kiwi.html And here is a blog post explaning the basics of the tool:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Kiwi: BDD tool for Pharo

2012-02-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Looks pretty cool! Doru On 7 Feb 2012, at 20:38, Nahuel Garbezza wrote: Hi all, I started to work with this a few months ago. Kiwi is a Behaviour-Driven development tool, inspired on Cucumber (http://cukes.info). Here's the SqueakSource project url:

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Kiwi: BDD tool for Pharo

2012-02-07 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Great work. 2012/2/7 Nahuel Garbezza n.garbe...@gmail.com Hi all, I started to work with this a few months ago. Kiwi is a Behaviour-Driven development tool, inspired on Cucumber (http://cukes.info). Here's the SqueakSource project url: http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Kiwi.html And here is a

Re: [Pharo-project] Migrating to Gemstone

2012-02-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Ben, I think that Mariano describes what you are looking for[1] [1] http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/migrating-projects-to-squeaksource3/ - Original Message - | From: Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com | To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-07 Thread Germán Arduino
New priority job for me: move all my stuff from squeaksource to ss3. About SmalltalkHub I think that need more time yet (taking in account the lack of news) then the only real option is ss3 imho. Cheers. 2012/2/7, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be: On 07 Feb 2012, at 16:58, Frank Shearar

[Pharo-project] status of plugins?

2012-02-07 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi ALl, I've read http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 but it's light on details. Can anyone summarise the state of Squeak VM plugin support for Safari 5.x? -- best, Eliot

[Pharo-project] Nautilus 4.0

2012-02-07 Thread Benjamin
Hello guys, I am glad to announce that Nautilus reached a new milestone and its now in version 4.0. This version introduce: - a lot of bug fixes - a better comment pane - speed increased by 10 (thanks to Camillo) Hope you will enjoy it :) Thanks to all of you for your reviews :) Ben

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus 4.0

2012-02-07 Thread Javier Pimás
screenshot or didn't happen! On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, I am glad to announce that Nautilus reached a new milestone and its now in version 4.0. This version introduce: - a lot of bug fixes - a better comment pane -

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus 4.0

2012-02-07 Thread Fernando Olivero
great! looking forward to use it. Could you provide again the loading gofer script. How does Nautilus deal with Traits, i remember we discussed in the last ESUG, that currently the browser fails to distinguish between methods belonging to the class, and acquired via the use of a trait, which

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus 4.0

2012-02-07 Thread Benjamin
Before:After:Ben ;)On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:41 PM, Javier Pimás wrote:screenshot or didn't happen!On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, I am glad to announce that Nautilus reached a new milestone and its now in version 4.0. This version

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus 4.0

2012-02-07 Thread Benjamin
https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Nautilus/The build fails but the archive is valid :)For traits method, you have this nice icon ^^For the API, I have added few methods as extensions to make those objects to share the same API.But since I am not really an expert of traits, nor a user of them, I

Re: [Pharo-project] It would be me first

2012-02-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 7 February 2012 21:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be wrote: On 07 Feb 2012, at 16:58, Frank Shearar wrote: Looks like it's dead. The machine's alive, and the HTTP server's alive though. Where is SmalltalkHub ? +1 Last time it was publically available for testing it looked quite

[Pharo-project] Debugger in 1.3

2012-02-07 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Hello all, Somewhere in my misadventures trying to build an image, I lose the ability to open a debugger. Expressions like 'hello' at:200 open one in a clean image, and after loading Migrate and setting preferences (fonts, etc.). It is starting to look like saving after metacello has been

[Pharo-project] [COTDC] 106 - ZipWriteStream

2012-02-07 Thread sean
After a little break ;-) This is the last class in Compression. After this one, I will bundle up the comments so far and commit them for 1.4! 105 classes done 792 classes remaining Continuing in Compression... Today: ZipWriteStream Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules:

Re: [Pharo-project] Resource Descriptor Framework

2012-02-07 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Hi Ben, On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Is there much being done with Resource Description Framework in Squeak/Pharo?   I have some RDF data files that I need to load for my masters project and am seeking advice on how to approach this.  I am only just

Re: [Pharo-project] SmallHarbour questions

2012-02-07 Thread laurent laffont
Hi German, at least one potential user :) I'll have a look this week, still not have totally recovered from FOSDEM. Laurent On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Germán Arduino gardu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: I'm trying to start using SmallHarbour and found several problems or is me that don't