Re: [Pharo-project] SocketPlugin: ignoring unknown option 'TCP_CORK'

2012-02-13 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 02/13/2012 12:08 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: Hi Phillipe, you'll need to add TCP_CORK to the list of known options in platforms/unix/plugins/SocketPlugin/sqUnixSocket.c Do you accept patches? Is the source still at [1]? [1] http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/ Cheers

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi all Smalltalkers! Only cross posting to squeak and pharo (communities I know), because this turned into a long post. But try reading it - I hope it is both fun and perhaps interesting. :) On 02/11/2012 01:21 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: Hi guys, Again one interesting topic for this weekend

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Frank Shearar
2012/2/13 Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se: Hi all Smalltalkers! Only cross posting to squeak and pharo (communities I know), because this turned into a long post. But try reading it - I hope it is both fun and perhaps interesting. :) On 02/11/2012 01:21 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: Hi guys,

Re: [Pharo-project] Regular expression

2012-02-13 Thread Gary Chambers
'a1b' matchesRegex: '[[:alnum:]]*((\d+[[:alnum:]]*[[:alpha:]]+)|([[:alpha:]]+[[:alnum:]]*\d+))[[:alnum:]]*'. perhaps? Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:40 PM

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 13 Feb 2012, at 10:23, Göran Krampe wrote: PS. Why oh why did Pharo lose the double click on ? in the class browser to see inheritance textually-mechanism? :) I just tried in my 1.4 image #14329 image with the standard browser and it works: ProtoObject #() Object #()

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger hanging... was Re: 1.4 - better from Jenkins

2012-02-13 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Feb 10, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Ben Coman wrote: While I was working towards implementing DosFileDirectorypreferencesFolder preferencesGeneralFolder I was stepping through: SmalltalkImagesnapshot:andQuit: did a: Restart and then stepped down to: Cursor write show at which point the debugger

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
There is no question that over-use of inheritance (failure to understand composition) is a classic beginner mistake. That said, don't underestimate the value of inheritance. Granted, the example I have in mind is perfect for specialization, but beyond that, failure to use (extensive)

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Göran Krampe
On 02/13/2012 12:22 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 13 Feb 2012, at 10:23, Göran Krampe wrote: PS. Why oh why did Pharo lose the double click on ? in the class browser to see inheritance textually-mechanism? :) I just tried in my 1.4 image #14329 image with the standard browser and it

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, 2012/2/13 Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se: On 02/13/2012 12:22 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 13 Feb 2012, at 10:23, Göran Krampe wrote: PS. Why oh why did Pharo lose the double click on ? in the class browser to see inheritance textually-mechanism? :) I just tried in my 1.4 image

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger hanging... was Re: 1.4 - better from Jenkins

2012-02-13 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 13 February 2012 12:55, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On Feb 10, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Ben Coman wrote: While I was working towards implementing DosFileDirectorypreferencesFolder preferencesGeneralFolder I was stepping through: SmalltalkImagesnapshot:andQuit: did a:

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Guido Stepken
I did analyse some of these memory pumping effects in Pharo. Come from overuse of inheritance, that causes big objects with hundreds of methods to be created and garbaged, just for short tasks. Better: Composition over inheritance!!! Second problem is the Liskov problem: Let q(x) be a property

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 13, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Guido Stepken wrote: I did analyse some of these memory pumping effects in Pharo. Come from overuse of inheritance, that causes big objects with hundreds of methods to be created and garbaged, just for short tasks. The number of methods do not influence *at

[Pharo-project] bug? #setPageSize: called in MorphThreeMorph but not defined

2012-02-13 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, MorphThreeModel#pageSize: and MorphThreeModel#chunkSize: both sends #setPageSize:, but that message is not defined there or in parents. Unique definition is on PaginatedMorphThreeModel. is that a bug? best, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Guido Stepken
Ok. Then it must have been the ghost, that causes heavy memory pumping, even under zero load, see CPU monitor. Its quite difficult not to say *impossible* to run Pharo even for simple tasks within a small vserver account with 256 or 512 MB reserved or dynamically assigned memory space. But i

[Pharo-project] bug? Lazy Class creation via method saving not stored in recent changes log

2012-02-13 Thread Max Bareis
Hi, I have encountered the issue, that the class creation is not stored in recent changes log when I process the following steps (ClassB does not exist): ClassAmethodA ClassB methodB. save. Now a popup appears and offers the creation of the ClassB. After accepting the class is

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Haupt
Hi, On 13 February 2012 16:32, Guido Stepken gstep...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok. Then it must have been the ghost, that causes heavy memory pumping, even under zero load, see CPU monitor. ... so far for the analysis. :-) But i agree, that Smalltalk *can* be designed to run well within 1MB of

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugging with Toggle breakpoint

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:49 AM, S Krish wrote: Will come up with a cs for the issues in Morphic widgets shortly after I test them more thoroughly.. I am kind of convinced that putting a breakpoint in a method with Toggle Breakpoint and then stepping through the morphic code base is causing

Re: [Pharo-project] bug? #setPageSize: called in MorphThreeMorph but not defined

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Hi, MorphThreeModel#pageSize: and MorphThreeModel#chunkSize: both sends #setPageSize:, but that message is not defined there or in parents. Unique definition is on PaginatedMorphThreeModel. is that a bug? probably best,

Re: [Pharo-project] bug? Lazy Class creation via method saving not stored in recent changes log

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks Max Yes this is probably a problem with the notification of class definition. Do you have a step by step reproduce able case for 1.4. Stef On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Max Bareis wrote: Hi, I have encountered the issue, that the class creation is not stored in recent changes log

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 13 Feb 2012, at 16:32, Guido Stepken wrote: Its quite difficult not to say *impossible* to run Pharo even for simple tasks within a small vserver account with 256 or 512 MB reserved or dynamically assigned memory space. This is ridiculous: a current stock Pharo server image (i.e.

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Nick Ager
Hi Michael, pah. 1 MB. Sheer luxury. 64 kB RAM, 256 kB Flash: Smalltalk running on Lego Mindstorms NXT. Questions? Is this still being developed? Is the code available? Nick

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Guido Stepken
Hahaha! You are running Apache Server in Front, caching all I/O, leaving no load for Pharo at all, serving static webpages even. Tnx 4 your funny comment! Have fun, Guido Stepken Am 13.02.2012 17:08 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be: On 13 Feb 2012, at 16:32, Guido Stepken wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
Hey Guido, I thought you said you were leaving us! Just too hard to stay away, eh? :-) -- Cheers, Peter On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Guido Stepken gstep...@googlemail.comwrote: Hahaha! You are running Apache Server in Front, caching all I/O, leaving no load for Pharo at all, serving

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Alain Fischer
The code is available here: http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/projects/nxtalk/ Alain On 13 févr. 12, at 17:12, Nick Ager wrote: Hi Michael, pah. 1 MB. Sheer luxury. 64 kB RAM, 256 kB Flash: Smalltalk running on Lego Mindstorms NXT. Questions? Is this still being developed? Is the

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 13 February 2012 17:53, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be wrote: On 13 Feb 2012, at 17:25, Guido Stepken wrote: Hahaha! You are running Apache Server in Front, caching all I/O, leaving no load for Pharo at all, serving static webpages even. Of course I am not: Apache 2 mod_proxy

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugging with Toggle breakpoint

2012-02-13 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 13 February 2012 16:58, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:49 AM, S Krish wrote: Will come up with a cs for the issues in Morphic widgets shortly after I test them more thoroughly.. I am kind of convinced that putting a breakpoint in a method with

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Guido Stepken
Am 13.02.2012 17:53 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be: On 13 Feb 2012, at 17:25, Guido Stepken wrote: Hahaha! You are running Apache Server in Front, caching all I/O, leaving no load for Pharo at all, serving static webpages even. Of course I am not: Apache 2 mod_proxy doesn't do

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 13 February 2012 18:09, Guido Stepken gstep...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.02.2012 17:53 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be: On 13 Feb 2012, at 17:25, Guido Stepken wrote: Hahaha! You are running Apache Server in Front, caching all I/O, leaving no load for Pharo at all,

[Pharo-project] New implementation of MultiColumnList

2012-02-13 Thread Benjamin
Hi, I have done a new version of this morph. Since the basic list morph can now render all kind morphs, I wanted to try with a new approach consisting of wrap each element with a designated morph. For the default behavior, speed is a bit better MessageTally spyOn: [ SystemNavigation default

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 13 Feb 2012, at 18:09, Guido Stepken wrote: Yes! http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_proxy.html Even dynamically growing cache memory. No! This page http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html#livedemo clearly refers/links to http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy_balancer.html

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Guido Stepken
Am 13.02.2012 18:17 schrieb Igor Stasenko siguctua siguc...@gmail.com@siguc...@gmail.com gmail.com siguc...@gmail.com: How about *real* and *direct* load on a sport car? Ever tried to haul fuel cistern with it? How fast it goes? The answer to your issue is just one: use proper tools for

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Guido Stepken
Caching now has moved into Apache core. Is still there. Am 13.02.2012 18:51 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be: On 13 Feb 2012, at 18:09, Guido Stepken wrote: Yes! http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_proxy.html Even dynamically growing cache memory. No! This page

Re: [Pharo-project] SocketPlugin: ignoring unknown option 'TCP_CORK'

2012-02-13 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marsch...@netcetera.ch wrote: On 02/13/2012 12:08 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: Hi Phillipe, you'll need to add TCP_CORK to the list of known options in platforms/unix/plugins/**SocketPlugin/sqUnixSocket.c Do you accept

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugging with Toggle breakpoint

2012-02-13 Thread S Krish
Sure, I hope my understanding of the system, polling events is good enough to avoid basic pitfalls.. But this is debug breakpoint of custom classes for Morphic View.. simple morphic compositions.. not in the Pharo framework code.. But as you said let me get this cleanly replicable this weekend

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 13 February 2012 18:59, Guido Stepken gstep...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.02.2012 18:17 schrieb Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com: How about *real* and *direct* load on a sport car? Ever tried to haul fuel cistern with it? How fast it goes? The answer to your issue is just one: use proper

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 13 Feb 2012, at 19:09, Guido Stepken wrote: Caching now has moved into Apache core. Is still there. Facts ?? There is no such thing, you have to enable it manually: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/caching.html

Re: [Pharo-project] New implementation of MultiColumnList

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks ben. I'm running even more than usual Will be at the presentation tomorrow then running teaching. But we should sit and discuss and get feedback from alain. Stef On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Benjamin wrote: Hi, I have done a new version of this morph. Since the basic list morph can

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: Hey Guido, I thought you said you were leaving us! Just too hard to stay away, eh? :-) lol We are addictive. Like honey for bees :) Stef -- Cheers, Peter On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Guido Stepken

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Course, trolls always have something extra to say :) I thought that they were changed in stone if touched by sun light but apparently it does not work anymore maybe we got tricked by saroumane… Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Dear Guido Do the right things, make Pharo, Seaside *usable* Did you try with VisualWorks? I'm pretty sure that you can use it without paying a license. :) Look at: http://www.cyberport.de/notebook-und-tablet/notebook-berater/erweiterte-suche/liste.html Selecting notebooks by price,

[Pharo-project] [BUG]UndefinedObject(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #asSocketAddress

2012-02-13 Thread Alexis Parseghian
Attempting to send a bug report with an unresolved smtp server address gives a retry or abort notification. Aborting gives this DNU. 13 February 2012 8:28:26 pm VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.139 uuid: 5aa53979-d7d8-4ca3-91fe-cfc3b4109c33 Jan 26 2012,

[Pharo-project] [BUG]FileDialogWindow(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #directoriesFor:

2012-02-13 Thread Alexis Parseghian
At first, trying to load text into a workspace (from its menu). More generally, any attempt at opening the file dialog. UITheme classexampleDialogs fails with the same. Still worked in update #14284 (previous images I had). 13 February 2012 8:29:31 pm VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - CoInterpreter

[Pharo-project] [BUG]FSReference(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #asLowercase

2012-02-13 Thread Alexis Parseghian
Attempting to open a file browser from World menuTools 13 February 2012 8:31:53 pm VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.139 uuid: 5aa53979-d7d8-4ca3-91fe-cfc3b4109c33 Jan 26 2012, StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.139 uuid:

Re: [Pharo-project] [BUG]UndefinedObject(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #asSocketAddress

2012-02-13 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Thanks for the bug report, Alexis. Part of the solution is to change the last line of NetNameResolver classaddressForName:timeout: to ^ result ifNotNil: [ result asSocketAddress ] But I don't like NameLookupFailure#defaultAction either. Apart from the fact that this is an extremely

[Pharo-project] here's a curio for compiler mavens...

2012-02-13 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi All, (whitewash alert) I just had occasion to look at the bytecode generated by the standard compiler for HashedCollection class#goodPrimeAtLeast:. Here's the source, with the issue in bold: goodPrimeAtLeast: lowerLimit Answer the next good prime = lowerlimit. If lowerLimit is larger

Re: [Pharo-project] [BUG]FSReference(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #asLowercase

2012-02-13 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 13 Feb 2012, at 20:34, Alexis Parseghian wrote: Attempting to open a file browser from World menuTools I can't open it either, it loops. Sven

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Haupt
Hi Nick, Am 13.02.2012 um 17:12 schrieb Nick Ager nick.a...@gmail.com: pah. 1 MB. Sheer luxury. 64 kB RAM, 256 kB Flash: Smalltalk running on Lego Mindstorms NXT. Questions? Is this still being developed? Is the code available? it is dormant, but available:

[Pharo-project] how to load rb in pharo 1.4?

2012-02-13 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I lost track of the latests developments around RB. What is the way to load RB in Pharo 1.4? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com What we can governs what we wish.

Re: [Pharo-project] bug? #setPageSize: called in MorphThreeMorph but not defined

2012-02-13 Thread Alain Plantec
thanks for reporting. I will have a look Cheers Alain Le 13/02/2012 17:00, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Hi, MorphThreeModel#pageSize: and MorphThreeModel#chunkSize: both sends #setPageSize:, but that message is not defined there or in

Re: [Pharo-project] how to load rb in pharo 1.4?

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
mariano and guillermo did a configuration to load shout OC RB in 1.4 Check in the mailing-list Stef On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:11 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, I lost track of the latests developments around RB. What is the way to load RB in Pharo 1.4? Cheers,

Re: [Pharo-project] how to load rb in pharo 1.4?

2012-02-13 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: mariano and guillermo did a configuration to load Guille did it. I was just a lucky beta tester :) shout OC RB in 1.4 Check in the mailing-list Stef On Feb 13, 2012, at

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] here's a curio for compiler mavens...

2012-02-13 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 13 February 2012 20:58, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All,     (whitewash alert)  I just had occasion to look at the bytecode generated by the standard compiler for HashedCollection class#goodPrimeAtLeast:.  Here's the source, with the issue in bold: goodPrimeAtLeast:

Re: [Pharo-project] how to load rb in pharo 1.4?

2012-02-13 Thread Tudor Girba
I could not find it. Could someone please point me to the magic invocation? Doru On 13 Feb 2012, at 21:21, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: mariano and guillermo did a configuration to load Guille did

Re: [Pharo-project] how to load rb in pharo 1.4?

2012-02-13 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
i don't know... but loading ob loads rb too :) El 13/02/2012, a las 5:44p.m., Tudor Girba escribió: I could not find it. Could someone please point me to the magic invocation? Doru On 13 Feb 2012, at 21:21, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] SocketPlugin: ignoring unknown option 'TCP_CORK'

2012-02-13 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 13.02.2012 19:25, Eliot Miranda wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marsch...@netcetera.ch mailto:philippe.marsch...@netcetera.ch wrote: On 02/13/2012 12:08 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: Hi Phillipe, you'll need to add TCP_CORK to

[Pharo-project] NB How can I pass a NULL argument?

2012-02-13 Thread Jan van de Sandt
Hello list, I want to call the following C function using NativeBoost: const char* uenum_next(UEnumeration * en, int32_t * resultLength, UErrorCode * status) According to the (icu4c) documentation you can pass NULL for the resultLenth argument [1]. But when I try: self nbCall: #( char*

[Pharo-project] 24-25 May 2012: Pharo conference registration is ready

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
http://pharoconference.eventbrite.com/ The Pharo core team organises a Pharo Conference hosted at INRIA Lille Nord Europe located at Villeneuve D'ascq (close to Lille). Pharo is an open-source Smalltalk http://www.pharo-project.org The goals of the conference is to bring companies, developers

Re: [Pharo-project] NB How can I pass a NULL argument?

2012-02-13 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks for the question. Which version do you use? Stef Hello list, I want to call the following C function using NativeBoost: const char* uenum_next(UEnumeration * en, int32_t * resultLength, UErrorCode * status) According to the (icu4c) documentation you can pass NULL for the

Re: [Pharo-project] SocketPlugin: ignoring unknown option 'TCP_CORK'

2012-02-13 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Philippe Marschall kus...@gmx.net wrote: On 13.02.2012 19:25, Eliot Miranda wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marschall@netcetera.**ch philippe.marsch...@netcetera.ch

Re: [Pharo-project] here's a curio for compiler mavens...

2012-02-13 Thread Eliot Miranda
OK, I fixed this (a pleasant Monday afternoon distraction) (at least I *think* I've fixed it; I still have to check the decompiler). But... in doing so I realised I had to fix CompiledMethod#= since I needed to see exactly which methods the compiler change affected (just committed as

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Guido Stepken
Amazon Cloud even has widely installed memcached, hat works also as httpd cache, preventing any Apache webserver and indirect Pharo Webserver from seeing any http/get request. So, i am NOT surprised, that any of those Pharoers doesn't want me here ... Pharo *is* dogsloow, Seaside nearly

Re: [Pharo-project] how to load rb in pharo 1.4?

2012-02-13 Thread Camillo Bruni
AFAIK it's called ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser in the Metacello repos ... spec className: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; versionString: #'stable'; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' Somebody should a)

Re: [Pharo-project] [BUG]FSReference(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #asLowercase

2012-02-13 Thread Camillo Bruni
open a bug report, I'll fix it :) we're getting FSFilesystem slowly into the system... the side effects are that some tools might not completely work :/ cami On 2012-02-13, at 21:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 13 Feb 2012, at 20:34, Alexis Parseghian wrote: Attempting to open a file

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Guido Stepken
Am 13.02.2012 20:25 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr @ stephane.duca...@inria.frinria.fr stephane.duca...@inria.fr: Dear Guido Hi Stef! Do the right things, make Pharo, Seaside *usable* Did you try with VisualWorks? I'm pretty sure that you can use it

Re: [Pharo-project] Are Objects really hard?

2012-02-13 Thread Francois Stephany
Hi Guido, What has happened? I went on with pushing development of a similar shop (see cyberport.de http://cyberport.de) and finally lost several 10.000nds of €, because Pharo/Seaside *is* much too slow for any serious enterprise. Can you explain a bit more about your setup? You were trying