On Mar 8, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
All Zn tests pass, on my machine/VM, as they do/did at
http://jenkins.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Zinc/
I think they are alll failing because a test server could not be started
properly, most probably because the port is already in use.
On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
Stef wrote:
We are getting there…
Did you ever look at the code of both systems?
No - not really.
I like the ui part now
At least the videos look shiny ;)
indeed and this is what I want don't get me wrong :)
yes we can express
Thanks Ben, Camillo and Marcus.
I should sit with you and see how it works
- when we have to rollback :)
- modify the submission
and I will use it - believe me.
Now, to integrate a fix a generate a new Pharo version, they just have to
execute on script which take the issues
Ben focus on your exams!
No fun pharo hacking.
Stef
On Mar 8, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Benjamin wrote:
On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I'm using Nautilus for my current projects since... well... couple of days,
and I have some feedback:
(yeah... maybe they
On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi,
I see the next updates on CI server (14384, 14385, 14386) but no
report on the mailing list. Some problems with mails?
Yes... testing the integration scritps.
14384
-
The following changes have been integrated:
Issue 5442:
1) OB had double-click action: show hierarchy. I miss it a lot :(
If you activate the open a class on hierarchy setting, it does the same :)
why not by default and reduce setting (each time you kill a setting you can be
happy).
Also, hierarchy button is too far away when I want to see the
On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi,
I see the next updates on CI server (14384, 14385, 14386) but no
report on the mailing list. Some problems with mails?
Yes... testing the integration scritps.
14384
-
the beauty of layer tangling!
I love that you have a look at that.
I really mean it.
Everyday we are getting closer to a nice and modular system (even if I got
bashed by people not believe the effort we spent on that).
Stef
ClassBuildervalidateClassName: aString
Validate the new
On 9 March 2012 04:28, Chris Cunningham cunningham...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 March 2012 01:22, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote:
ClassBuildervalidateClassName: aString
...
self notify: aString
:) cool that it works! :)
On 2012-03-09, at 10:04, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks Ben, Camillo and Marcus.
I should sit with you and see how it works
- when we have to rollback :)
- modify the submission
and I will use it - believe me.
Now, to integrate a fix a generate a
Thx,
I hope I would do justice to this in terms of time...! .. Let me just
dive into this and look in..
PS: Wish a day had 48 hrs to it.. with rest 24 to your own pursuit..
not for work or home.
On 3/9/12, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Krish, Hi Esteban,
On Thu, Mar 8,
Igor Stasenko wrote
so then go finish arts and design schools (min 5 years each). and only
then you may get back and continue working on nautilus! Hurry up. :)
I can also easily tell what i don't like in Nautilus. Much harder is
to propose alternative.
So after finishing art school i
Hi,
i suspect, that the popularity of Pharo (or Smalltalk in general)
could be increased by developing some Killer-OpenSource-Tools.
By Killer-OpenSource-Tools i think of Tools, e.g. for supporting the
Software-Development-Process in general. Moose of course could become
such a tool.
But i think
Hi,
I created a new Jenkins job named Project Pharo Kernel Reload
Tests-Unix. It is the same job as Pharo 1.4 Tests-Unix but with Pharo
Kernel Reload as the base.
In ideal case it should have the same set of failing tests as Pharo
1.4 Tests-Unix (zero would be nice ;-)). Currently it has one
Interesting proposition, I will keep that on my desktop :)
Thanks
Ben
On Mar 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Helene Bilbo wrote:
Igor Stasenko wrote
so then go finish arts and design schools (min 5 years each). and only
then you may get back and continue working on nautilus! Hurry up. :)
I can
After a discussion with Esteban, Nick challenged me to submit a proposal.
An alternative would be to start from Glamour instead of from Magritte 3.
Proposal: Extend Magritte 3 to create Naked Objects style interfaces
Level: Intermediate
Possible mentor: Stephan Eggermont
Possible second mentor:
Project name: Nautilus
Level (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced): Intermediate
Possible Mentor : Stephane
Ducasse ?
Description :
I could offer help here as well.
Cheers,
Doru
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:
After a discussion with Esteban, Nick challenged me to submit a proposal.
An alternative would be to start from Glamour instead of from Magritte 3.
Proposal: Extend
On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Stefan Krecher wrote:
Hi,
i suspect, that the popularity of Pharo (or Smalltalk in general)
could be increased by developing some Killer-OpenSource-Tools.
By Killer-OpenSource-Tools i think of Tools, e.g. for supporting the
Software-Development-Process in
would be cool too :)
On Mar 9, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
After a discussion with Esteban, Nick challenged me to submit a proposal.
An alternative would be to start from Glamour instead of from Magritte 3.
Proposal: Extend Magritte 3 to create Naked Objects style
Hi,
I just started to play with nautilus so this is just a quick feedback:
- Are the icons on the packages really useful? I think they just overload
the list with redundant information which is not really useful. Can they be
simply removed?
- When I tried to run a test class (ZnClientTests just
Hi, beware the shameless plug:
Our paper
Identifying A Unifying Mechanism for the
Implementation of Concurrency Abstractions on
Multi-Language Virtual Machines [1]
introduces an ownership-based Meta-object Protocol (MOP) to enable the
On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi,
I created a new Jenkins job named Project Pharo Kernel Reload
Tests-Unix. It is the same job as Pharo 1.4 Tests-Unix but with Pharo
Kernel Reload as the base.
In ideal case it should have the same set of failing tests as Pharo
1.4
Am 9. März 2012 15:01 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
A simple and good looking Ticketing-System for use in an agile team
would be a good thing - it's a CRUD-Application with some Reporting
and maybe some eye candy.
Why don't you start based on experience to build a tool
I tagged it as 1.5 ;)
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5456thanks=5456ts=1331306643
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 March 2012 04:28, Chris Cunningham cunningham...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Igor Stasenko
Hi Stefan,
=Our paper
Identifying A Unifying Mechanism for the
Implementation of Concurrency Abstractions on
Multi-Language Virtual Machines [1]
I'm really looking forward to digesting this. I'm been flirting with
Clojure and have been
Most socket API's allow for the creation of a server socket on the next
available port, often by specifying 0 instead of a port. When the socket is
bound, one can retrieve the local port and let the client(s) know. I tried to
do that in Pharo today, and these steps seem to work, by accepting an
BTW I think you missed the link to you paper. Google found it at:
http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr/downloads/tools12-smarr-dhondt-identifying-a-unifying-mechanism-for-the-implementation-of-concurrency-abstractions-on-multi-language-virtual-machines.pdf
On 9 March 2012 15:26, Nick Ager
On 03/09/2012 04:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Most socket API's allow for the creation of a server socket on the next
available port, often by specifying 0 instead of a port. When the socket is
bound, one can retrieve the local port and let the client(s) know. I tried to
do that in
Added missing links below, thanks Nick for pointing it out.
On 09 Mar 2012, at 15:38, Stefan Marr wrote:
Hi, beware the shameless plug:
Our paper
Identifying A Unifying Mechanism for the
Implementation of Concurrency Abstractions on
| parseTree resultNode searchTree |
parseTree := RBParser parseMethod: 'renderContentOn: aRenderer
aRenderer div id: ''id1'';
with: [
aRenderer div
id: ''idInner1'';
render: ''text1'' ].'.
searchTree := RBParser parseExpression:
Hi Stefan,
I'm not sure if it is a killer app that is required to get more
visibility for Pharo or a better adoption of Smalltalk.
We already have nice open-source apps ranging from Seaside, Pier,
Moose, Swiki, ... up to other Smalltalk apps that are sucessfull
also in business life.
Look
On 9 March 2012 15:11, Stefan Krecher stefan.krec...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 9. März 2012 15:01 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
A simple and good looking Ticketing-System for use in an agile team
would be a good thing - it's a CRUD-Application with some Reporting
and maybe
Am 9. März 2012 17:24 schrieb Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com:
Um. That makes no sense. Pharo developers should develop Pharo, not
something that merely uses Pharo. Or: Pharo's not being developed
fast enough! Let's make the devs work on something else!
if one of the main goals of the
On 2012-03-09, at 17:11, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
Hi Stefan,
I'm not sure if it is a killer app that is required to get more
visibility for Pharo or a better adoption of Smalltalk.
We already have nice open-source apps ranging from Seaside, Pier,
Moose, Swiki, ... up to other
Hi Torsten,
my theory is simple: people working in Softwaredevelopment-Departments
are somehow techies. So if they see pharo in action and have the
ability to use it in a way that is uncritical for the business - they
would try it out.
Of course they can't decide to use pharo/ seaside for the
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 March 2012 04:28, Chris Cunningham cunningham...@gmail.com wrote:
Guille,
this likely pre-dates Exceptions (or at least wide-spread use of
them). A much better direction is to use exceptions (or
Announcements?)
On 09 Mar 2012, at 16:56, Philippe Marschall wrote:
On 03/09/2012 04:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Most socket API's allow for the creation of a server socket on the next
available port, often by specifying 0 instead of a port. When the socket is
bound, one can retrieve the local
Am 09.03.2012 um 18:44 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe:
On 09 Mar 2012, at 16:56, Philippe Marschall wrote:
On 03/09/2012 04:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Most socket API's allow for the creation of a server socket on the next
available port, often by specifying 0 instead of a port.
For a long time, I had this idea that it would be a good idea to use Amazon S3
to store Smalltalk source code.
A couple of weeks ago I decided to build and deploy a proof of concept.
Have a look at:
http://mc.stfx.eu
Everything is explained on that page.
Two of my repositories are
On 9 March 2012 15:48, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote:
Project name : Nautilus
Level (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced) : Intermediate
Possible Mentor : Stephane
On 9 March 2012 13:27, Helene Bilbo thereluctantprogram...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Igor Stasenko wrote
so then go finish arts and design schools (min 5 years each). and only
then you may get back and continue working on nautilus! Hurry up. :)
I can also easily tell what i don't like in Nautilus.
I generalized the problem (because is not a problem exclusive to our community)
so here I wrote a couple of thoughts on the subject:
Money and Popularity are Distractions [1]
about abstractions:
is hard for most because education is broken. People is indoctrinated to obey
and shut up instead of
Hi,
I created an ad-hoc fix of Pharo Kernel Tests job, pushed small fix of
Pharo Kernel Seaside and re-enabled Pharo Kernel Report. So all the
Pharo Kernel Jenkins jobs are in working order.
https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo-Kernel/
Cheers,
-- Pavel
Hi folks,
I am collecting information about the languages used to teach
Object-Oriented Programming.
This is part of an academic research at Fiuba http://www.fi.uba.ar/ whose
results will be published at the University website at not cost.
So if you want to collaborate it will take you less than
On 3/9/12 11:48 AM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote:
Project name: Hazelnut
Level (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced) : Advanced
Possible Mentor : Stephane Ducasse ?
Description: Hazelnut is part of the Seed project which goal is to
bootstrap the
Ok, I have succumbed and will post a quick reply ... although I realize this
looks like one of those threads where a lot of people say we need to do
this ... or ... we need to do what xyz does and as Stef often - and rightly
so - says, don't just talk but roll up your sleeves and do something :)
On 9 March 2012 18:40, Stefan Krecher stefan.krec...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 9. März 2012 17:24 schrieb Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com:
Um. That makes no sense. Pharo developers should develop Pharo, not
something that merely uses Pharo. Or: Pharo's not being developed
fast enough!
On 9 March 2012 18:49, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2012-03-09, at 17:11, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
Hi Stefan,
I'm not sure if it is a killer app that is required to get more
visibility for Pharo or a better adoption of Smalltalk.
We already have nice open-source apps
On 9 March 2012 22:41, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, I have succumbed and will post a quick reply ... although I realize this
looks like one of those threads where a lot of people say we need to do
this ... or ... we need to do what xyz does and as Stef often - and rightly
so
On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 9 March 2012 13:27, Helene Bilbo thereluctantprogram...@fastmail.fm
wrote:
Igor Stasenko wrote
so then go finish arts and design schools (min 5 years each). and only
then you may get back and continue working on nautilus! Hurry up. :)
Hi,
I created a Jenkins job for uMorphic too (together with a little update.
https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo-Kernel/job/Pharo%20Kernel%20uMorphic/
Cheers,
-- Pavel
Dear Smalltalkers,
We just submitted the application to this year GSoC, now let we wait
with fingers crossed for Google until next Friday to decide. I think we
have quite some chance, specially because we collected and very well
described 22 project ideas:
http://gsoc2012.esug.org/ideas
According to this guy, we're using 3rd most powful programming
language (or, well one of 4.. to not insult anyone ;).
http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html
So, we're not that bad, eh? :)
A very good explanation to 'pointy-haired' why 'mainstream' language
are not best choice..
as well as good
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
According to this guy, we're using 3rd most powful programming
language (or, well one of 4.. to not insult anyone ;).
http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html
So, we're not that bad, eh? :)
I like what he says about
Name: A binding to R
Level: Advanced
Possible mentor: ?
Possible second mentor: ?
Description
With the increased popularity of high-level statistical programming
language and environments for data analysis like R, a way to interface this
package is becoming a must have for Smalltalk, since it
A binding to R would be relatively trivial, I think. A binding to
iGraph would be a bit more challenging and would allow for things like
using Connectors to directly create/define iGraph data structures and
use iGraph's API to modify their behavior.
Lawson
On 3/9/12 6:07 PM, Hernán Morales
I guess using Connectors to provide a GUI on top of an R binding would
be more impressive to most R users, but its nowhere near as difficult as
doing it in Python or Ruby (been contemplating how to do it for about a
6 months now -just haven't actually coded anything).
Hi Lawson, I know from an experienced Java programmer, trying to make a
binding to R, which is difficult to deal with particularities of connecting
with R efficently (I could ask him for details if a student is interested
in the project). I think R isn't comparable to what iGraph could provide,
On 10 March 2012 00:33, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
According to this guy, we're using 3rd most powful programming
language (or, well one of 4.. to not insult anyone ;).
Name: CSS Template System
Level: Easy / Intermediate
Possible mentor: Hernán Morales Durand
Possible second mentor: ?
Description
Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) is a technology which allows personalized
presentation styles of document contents. It is based in textual source
code which has
There's a bunch of different ways that R interfaces/bindings can go,
apparently.
From what I can see, most straightforward way to interface with R would
be to create a WorkSpace that can send WorkSpace input to an R
interpreter and echo the output back to the workspace. You want
something
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
According to this guy, we're using 3rd most powful programming
language (or, well one of 4.. to not insult anyone ;).
http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html
So, we're not that bad, eh? :)
A real scientific analysis ;)
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