[Pharo-project] Redline Smalltalk ...

2012-04-23 Thread James Ladd
Redline Smalltalk has undergone some Big changes, maybe now is a good time for you to try it? http://redline.st

Re: [Pharo-project] Redline Smalltalk ...

2012-04-23 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 04/23/2012 08:05 AM, James Ladd wrote: Redline Smalltalk has undergone some Big changes, maybe now is a good time for you to try it? http://redline.st Could you outline some of those changes? Cheers Philippe

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
More precisely the model was changed (and need more effort) so that we can use the logic of systems like opengl, cairo… We are waiting that alain defends his HDR to help us adapting all the textMorph to the new model now if somebody want to have a look let us know. Stef On Apr 21, 2012, at

Re: [Pharo-project] Redline Smalltalk ...

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
You mean in the redline mailing-list? Stef Redline Smalltalk has undergone some Big changes, maybe now is a good time for you to try it? http://redline.st Could you outline some of those changes? Cheers Philippe

Re: [Pharo-project] Feedback about SmallLint

2012-04-23 Thread Simon Allier
Thanks for the feedback On Apr 21, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi guys. After our meeting at Lille, I did a pass of SmallLint over Fuel project. I have to say that I enjoyed the tool and that. I love the manifiesto idea. I love to store metada and to be able to reject

Re: [Pharo-project] ECompletion/Shout bug

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Note that the bug shows up if you edit the code in the result of the implementors. Esteban can you reproduce the bug? Stef On Apr 23, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi I get a bug with OCompletion/Ecompletion TextEditorchangeEmphasis try to type menuList

Re: [Pharo-project] completion lets some traces

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
with ECompletion? No, I'm not having a fade out (I do have it with OCompletion, but that's the intended behavior) Esteban On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Esteban don't you have the same problem than me with ecompletion? I get a slow vanishing of propositions.

Re: [Pharo-project] ECompletion/Shout bug

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yes, I can reproduce this one... taking care of it now :) On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Note that the bug shows up if you edit the code in the result of the implementors. Esteban can you reproduce the bug? Stef On Apr 23, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-project] Feedback about SmallLint

2012-04-23 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: thanks for the report. Mariano so far we did not change any of the rules provided by RB. For now we will run small lint and collect information. Ok, I understand. But since I am SmallLintying my packages I

Re: [Pharo-project] ECompletion/Shout bug

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
he... is not related with the error, but... did you see this method? guessTypeOf: aNumber | range | self configureSelectorsOnly. recurseCount 10 ifTrue: [ ^ nil ]. recurseCount := recurseCount + 1. range := ranges at: aNumber. ^ range isSelf

[Pharo-project] Example Redline Smalltalk WEB app ...

2012-04-23 Thread James Ladd
import: 'st.redline.stout.Stout'. Stout #Web. - initialize super initialize. self get: '/' do: [ 'Hello World from Smalltalk Web' ].

Re: [Pharo-project] completion lets some traces

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: with ECompletion? No, I'm not having a fade out (I do have it with OCompletion, but that's the intended behavior) I will show you because with me it is blurry and looks like a bug. Esteban On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] Feedback about SmallLint

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks for the report. Mariano so far we did not change any of the rules provided by RB. For now we will run small lint and collect information. Ok, I understand. But since I am SmallLintying my packages I guess that my feedback does not hurt for future work (when you do start changing

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi folks! Having skimmed this thread I must say that I am amazed how easy we fall into Squeak vs Pharo flamewars - haven't we gotten past that by now? Now, the most interesting part is IMHO not discussed - how does the leadership of Pharo view this work? Is it meriting enough to be a

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi Göran, On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:43, Göran Krampe wrote: Hi folks! Having skimmed this thread I must say that I am amazed how easy we fall into Squeak vs Pharo flamewars - haven't we gotten past that by now? Yes, we should be past that, but just quickly skimming the thread, it seems as if

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Dne 23. 04. 2012 12:08, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:43, Göran Krampe wrote: Having skimmed this thread I must say that I am amazed how easy we fall into Squeak vs Pharo flamewars - haven't we gotten past that by now? Yes, we should be past that, but just quickly

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 23 Apr 2012, at 12:25, Janko Mivšek wrote: Dne 23. 04. 2012 12:08, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:43, Göran Krampe wrote: Having skimmed this thread I must say that I am amazed how easy we fall into Squeak vs Pharo flamewars - haven't we gotten past that by now?

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 23.04.2012 um 12:25 schrieb Janko Mivšek: Dne 23. 04. 2012 12:08, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:43, Göran Krampe wrote: Having skimmed this thread I must say that I am amazed how easy we fall into Squeak vs Pharo flamewars - haven't we gotten past that by now?

Re: [Pharo-project] ECompletion/Shout bug

2012-04-23 Thread Nicolas Cellier
These are not really nested if, but rather a kind of caseOf: implemented with elseif. It's not to say that the style is ideal... I did not read the code, and don't know what a range is, nor if it has subclass specializations. If so, maybe some actions could simply be dispatched to range. Nicolas

[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfGrease status?

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi guys, I loaded ConfigurationOfGrease on 1.4 : Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGrease'; load. Then (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGrease) load. returns #load does not understand. If I load: ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGrease) project

Re: [Pharo-project] ECompletion/Shout bug

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
oh, well... but it's also doable this way: guessTypeOf: aNumber | range | self configureSelectorsOnly. recurseCount 10 ifTrue: [ ^ nil ]. recurseCount := recurseCount + 1. range := ranges at: aNumber. range isSelf ifTrue: [ ^theClass ].

[Pharo-project] Techniques of disputes (was Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk)

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Dne 23. 04. 2012 12:37, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 23 Apr 2012, at 12:25, Janko Mivšek wrote: Dne 23. 04. 2012 12:08, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:43, Göran Krampe wrote: Having skimmed this thread I must say that I am amazed how easy we fall into Squeak vs

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Göran Krampe
On 04/23/2012 12:43 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: It doesn't really matter who started it. We all like to come over this. It can happen and the only thing making it worse is to talk about the fact that it happened. Yeah, I don't care either about who started it - I am just tired of it :). We are

Re: [Pharo-project] Techniques of disputes (was Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk)

2012-04-23 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 23.04.2012 um 13:27 schrieb Janko Mivšek: Dne 23. 04. 2012 12:37, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 23 Apr 2012, at 12:25, Janko Mivšek wrote: Dne 23. 04. 2012 12:08, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 23 Apr 2012, at 11:43, Göran Krampe wrote: Having skimmed this thread I must say

[Pharo-project] [2.0] Page on pharo-project + One-Click

2012-04-23 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, I added a page for 2.0 with all important links: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/unstable-2-0 - there is a one-click now - link to trello - link to wiki page for the chage log -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

[Pharo-project] Pharo-2.0-Tests » 32,linux - Build # 1 - Failure!

2012-04-23 Thread jenkins-pharo . ci . inria . fr
BUILD FAILUREBuild URLhttps://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-2.0-Tests/./Architecture=32,OS=linux/1/Project:Architecture=32,OS=linuxDate of build:Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:42:44 +0200Build duration:3 min 49 secCHANGESNo ChangesCONSOLE OUTPUTStarted by upstream project "Pharo-2.0-Tests" build number

[Pharo-project] Autocompletition off, where in 1.4?

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi guys, Where can autocompletition be switched off in 1.4? In 1.3 there was a checkbox in settings. Also, can auto () [] be switched selectively off? Specially I found just too annoying ... Best regards Janko -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

[Pharo-project] Pharo Kernel 1.4 Reload Tests-Unix - Build # 82 - Still unstable!

2012-04-23 Thread jenkins-pharo . ci . inria . fr
BUILD UNSTABLEBuild URLhttps://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo%20Kernel%201.4%20Reload%20Tests-Unix/82/Project:Pharo Kernel 1.4 Reload Tests-UnixDate of build:Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:59:05 +0200Build duration:3 min 31 secCHANGESNo ChangesJUnit TestsName: Announcements.Tests.Core Failed: 0 test(s),

Re: [Pharo-project] Autocompletition off, where in 1.4?

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, settings/code browsing/code completion (general) settings/code browsing/code completion/smart characters (just smart chars) cheers, Esteban On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: Hi guys, Where can autocompletition be switched off in 1.4? In 1.3 there was a checkbox in

[Pharo-project] [2.0] Jenkins job for testing

2012-04-23 Thread Marcus Denker
Like 1.4, linux and mac for now, Windows will be added soon. https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0-Tests/ -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] Autocompletition off, where in 1.4?

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Thanks Esteban. Dne 23. 04. 2012 15:08, piše Esteban Lorenzano: Hi, settings/code browsing/code completion (general) settings/code browsing/code completion/smart characters (just smart chars) cheers, Esteban On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: Hi guys, Where can

Re: [Pharo-project] Autocompletition off, where in 1.4?

2012-04-23 Thread jb
there use to be functionality that if you selected a region of code and then pressed ( it would put parens around the entire block instead of replacing it with a parentheses. i found that incredibly useful. but it seems to have gone away in 1.3. any way to get it back? On 23.04.2012 08:54,

Re: [Pharo-project] Autocompletition off, where in 1.4?

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, it is there... both in pharo 1.4 and in 1.3... maybe a problem in your image? cheers, Esteban On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:22 PM, jb wrote: there use to be functionality that if you selected a region of code and then pressed ( it would put parens around the entire block instead of replacing

Re: [Pharo-project] new icon set

2012-04-23 Thread Guillermo Polito
I like them. Except for the test runner one :P. Isn't there any other nicer? On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I just hacked (well, yesterday, I was bored in my room) a new icon set for pharo, based on famfam icons. How to get it? just drop

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] setting up nautilus on 1.4

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hello Johan, Welcome ! I hope you'll enjoy Pharo as much as we do. On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:07, Johann Hibschman wrote: Hi all, I just joined this list for real, although I've been following the RSS feed for a month now. In short, I'm a rank amateur. I just tried upgrading to Pharo 1.4.

Re: [Pharo-project] new icon set

2012-04-23 Thread Erwan Douaille
look funny :p GTK icons ? 2012/4/23 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com I like them. Except for the test runner one :P. Isn't there any other nicer? On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I just hacked (well, yesterday, I was bored in

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi folks! Having skimmed this thread I must say that I am amazed how easy we fall into Squeak vs Pharo flamewars - haven't we gotten past that by now? Now, the most interesting part is IMHO not discussed - how does the leadership of Pharo view this work? Is it meriting enough to be a

Re: [Pharo-project] new icon set

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I didn't find anyone... if you find one (it has to be famfam), let me know and I'll add it. Esteban On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: I like them. Except for the test runner one :P. Isn't there any other nicer? On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
It doesn't really matter who started it. We all like to come over this. It can happen and the only thing making it worse is to talk about the fact that it happened. Yeah, I don't care either about who started it - I am just tired of it :). May be other people are tired by other aspects?

Re: [Pharo-project] [2.0] Page on pharo-project + One-Click

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks!!! On Apr 23, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, I added a page for 2.0 with all important links: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/unstable-2-0 - there is a one-click now - link to trello - link to wiki page for the chage log -- Marcus Denker --

[Pharo-project] Zodiak SSL on 1.4 problem

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi guys, I just installed Zodiak into 1.4 image but ZdcSecureSocketTests#testPlain failed with 'Connection closed while waiting for data. Any idea what could be wrong? Any idea how to further debug? I did: 1. Gofer it squeaksource: 'Zodiac'; package: 'Zodiac-Core'; package:

Re: [Pharo-project] Zodiak SSL on 1.4 problem

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Janko, On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:45, Janko Mivšek wrote: Hi guys, I just installed Zodiak into 1.4 image but ZdcSecureSocketTests#testPlain failed with 'Connection closed while waiting for data. Any idea what could be wrong? Any idea how to further debug? I did: 1. Gofer it

Re: [Pharo-project] new icon set

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
good idea. Stef Hi, I just hacked (well, yesterday, I was bored in my room) a new icon set for pharo, based on famfam icons. How to get it? just drop the mcz into your pharo image, then execute: ThemeIcons initializeIcons. World resetWorldMenu. (you can't switch back, so... be

Re: [Pharo-project] new icon set

2012-04-23 Thread Fernando Olivero
Great work Esteban, lets hope you get bored often during this year! Even though they are far from perfect, i think its a great improvement from the current icon set. , a more consistent look and feel. Saludos, Fernando pd: We could also try with the oxygen icon set imported with

Re: [Pharo-project] Zodiak SSL on 1.4 problem

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Dne 23. 04. 2012 15:51, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: I just installed Zodiak into 1.4 image but ZdcSecureSocketTests#testPlain failed with 'Connection closed while waiting for data. Any idea what could be wrong? Any idea how to further debug? I did: 1. Gofer it squeaksource: 'Zodiac';

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Göran Krampe
Hi! On 04/23/2012 03:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Just cloning it off into Pharo and forking seems... less optimal. Any ideas or thoughts? I do not get what you mean. I just want to work on our roadmap and make it getting real. It is hard enough to get some momentum and to deliver for

Re: [Pharo-project] Zodiak SSL on 1.4 problem

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Sven, update: Now I loaded Zodiak-Extra and Zinc-Zodiak and ZnHTTPSTests all pass. While below mentioned test still fails. Dne 23. 04. 2012 15:59, piše Janko Mivšek: Dne 23. 04. 2012 15:51, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: I just installed Zodiak into 1.4 image but ZdcSecureSocketTests#testPlain

[Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Camillo Bruni
I figured a specific bottleneck of the current implementation of MC is the uniqe version name check. On gemstone this takes 4seconds! for the pharo inbox, definitely too long... The culprit can be found here MCFileBasedRepository includesVersionNamed: aString ^ self allVersionNames

[Pharo-project] The Squeak vs Pharo hostility... (was Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk)

2012-04-23 Thread Göran Krampe
Hey all! On 04/23/2012 03:43 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: It doesn't really matter who started it. We all like to come over this. It can happen and the only thing making it worse is to talk about the fact that it happened. Yeah, I don't care either about who started it - I am just tired of

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4 Released

2012-04-23 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-04-21, at 20:08, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: What a tremendous list of accomplishments!! I'm blown away every time I read it... Are there more detailed descriptions of these bullets? Specifically I'm interested in: Marcus Denker-4 wrote - Better primitive simulation the

Re: [Pharo-project] The video about Athens

2012-04-23 Thread Marcus Denker
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, all I recorded a small introductory video about Athens. Here it is: http://vimeo.com/40653315 (about 21 minutes). The Audio track is now working. -- Marcus Denker  --  den...@acm.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.4 Released

2012-04-23 Thread Benjamin
On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: On 2012-04-21, at 20:08, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: What a tremendous list of accomplishments!! I'm blown away every time I read it... Are there more detailed descriptions of these bullets? Specifically I'm interested in: Marcus

Re: [Pharo-project] Zodiak SSL on 1.4 problem

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 23 Apr 2012, at 16:16, Janko Mivšek wrote: Now I loaded Zodiac-Extra and Zinc-Zodiac and ZnHTTPSTests all pass. While below mentioned test still fails. OK, I will test again on Linux tonight myself to see for myself. The extra package that you loaded shouldn't make a difference on the

Re: [Pharo-project] Zodiak SSL on 1.4 problem

2012-04-23 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-04-23, at 16:42, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 23 Apr 2012, at 16:16, Janko Mivšek wrote: Now I loaded Zodiac-Extra and Zinc-Zodiac and ZnHTTPSTests all pass. While below mentioned test still fails. OK, I will test again on Linux tonight myself to see for myself. The extra

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Chris Muller
Did your Smalltalk Code Critic tell you that or just another one of your biased opinions? Wow, why so aggressive? Not aggressive, just curious about what your point is Marcus? What is your point when you say something like, isn't it amazing how bad Squeak is? What does it mean when someone

Re: [Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Camillo, On 23 Apr 2012, at 16:26, Camillo Bruni wrote: I figured a specific bottleneck of the current implementation of MC is the uniqe version name check. On gemstone this takes 4 seconds! for the pharo inbox, definitely too long… That seems like a problem with the SS3 and/or GemStone

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Just cloning it off into Pharo and forking seems... less optimal. Any ideas or thoughts? I do not get what you mean. I just want to work on our roadmap and make it getting real. It is hard enough to get some momentum and to deliver for real. So can you help us to get focused? People can

Re: [Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-04-23, at 16:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Camillo, On 23 Apr 2012, at 16:26, Camillo Bruni wrote: I figured a specific bottleneck of the current implementation of MC is the uniqe version name check. On gemstone this takes 4 seconds! for the pharo inbox, definitely too

Re: [Pharo-project] new icon set

2012-04-23 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: I just hacked (well, yesterday, I was bored in my room) a new icon set for pharo, based on famfam icons. Please first check licenses are compatible -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Lambdas

Re: [Pharo-project] new icon set

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
already checked, it is: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ which I think is compatible enough :) Esteban On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: I just hacked (well, yesterday, I was bored in

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 23 Apr 2012, at 16:04, Göran Krampe wrote: Ok, let me clarify. I was just wondering how the Pharo community wants to handle a case where a substantial component (in this case, this new editor) is not *primarily* developed in Pharo (in this case Cuis). Göran, You know that many

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Göran Krampe
On 04/23/2012 05:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Just cloning it off into Pharo and forking seems... less optimal. Any ideas or thoughts? I do not get what you mean. I just want to work on our roadmap and make it getting real. It is hard enough to get some momentum and to deliver for real. So

[Pharo-project] [ANN] PharoLauncher for Mac users

2012-04-23 Thread HwaJong Oh
If you are a Mac(Lion) user, who program in Pharo or other Squeak-like Smalltalk (Squeak, Cobalt, Seaside one-click, Croquet, EToy, DrGeo one-click, ...) , there is a better way to manage your images. It is fast to launch an image, easy to manage various VM and image combinations without

Re: [Pharo-project] The video about Athens

2012-04-23 Thread Guillermo Polito
Nice simba :). On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Some progress with SVG importer.. Don't be too optimistic, this is pretty simple svg document, which uses only colors and polygons.. it will require a more work to implement full SVG spec , but i just

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Goran (and others) I know that you know but let me repeat it. Our goal is to push as much as we can so that other people that us can make money building software with Pharo. We want to get pharo bring money in the community and that people can make a living with it. I would love to be invited

Re: [Pharo-project] The video about Athens

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks igor. This is good to have updates like that :) Stef Some progress with SVG importer.. Don't be too optimistic, this is pretty simple svg document, which uses only colors and polygons.. it will require a more work to implement full SVG spec , but i just wanna share first results

Re: [Pharo-project] The video about Athens

2012-04-23 Thread Fernando Olivero
Great work Igor! One more step towards nicer looking apps developed in Pharo in the near future What features are missing from a full-blown SVG spec? Gradients? Fernando On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Nice simba :). On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at

Re: [Pharo-project] The video about Athens

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 23 April 2012 18:01, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch wrote: Great work Igor!  One more step towards nicer looking apps developed in Pharo in the near future What features are missing from a full-blown SVG spec? Gradients? hehe.. a lot. i now working on more complex document, like

Re: [Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Dale Henrichs
Right now we are having disk io problems with the machine that SS3 is hosted on. In general if the entire db can fit in memory you will get very fast response times once the db grows larger than memory you definitely hit a big speed bump when you have to hit disk ... with that said, the

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfGrease status?

2012-04-23 Thread Janko Mivšek
Thanks Dale, What to put in another ConfigurationOf to load just core? (I know I should RTFM, but your answer will be faster :) Best regards Janko Dne 23. 04. 2012 18:10, piše Dale Henrichs: Janko, If you don't want Slime (the default) loaded, then you should load just the 'Core' group:

Re: [Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks dale. Stef On Apr 23, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote: Right now we are having disk io problems with the machine that SS3 is hosted on. In general if the entire db can fit in memory you will get very fast response times once the db grows larger than memory you definitely

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfGrease status?

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 23, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: Thanks Dale, What to put in another ConfigurationOf to load just core? (I know I should RTFM, but your answer will be faster :) loads: #('Core') Stef Best regards Janko Dne 23. 04. 2012 18:10, piše Dale Henrichs: Janko,

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Bernhard Pieber
Hi Göran, Thanks for your question! I have posted the announcement of the Styled Text Editor to the Pharo list as well because I still have not given up on the idea to port it to Squeak and Pharo. It is not straightforward but I consider it possible. Currently the Styled Text Editor is an

Re: [Pharo-project] The video about Athens

2012-04-23 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, on 64bit Fedora with cairo.i686 installed the right library path is /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 -- Pavel On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, all I recorded a small introductory video about Athens. Here it is: http://vimeo.com/40653315 (about 21

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] PharoLauncher for Mac users

2012-04-23 Thread Bernhard Pieber
Hi HwaJong Oh, I just watched your demonstration videos and downloaded the PharoLauncher from the App Store. Cool that you put it there! Looks good, I will try it out soon. Cheers, Bernhard Am 23.04.2012 um 17:23 schrieb HwaJong Oh: If you are a Mac(Lion) user, who program in Pharo or other

Re: [Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Camillo Bruni
I just checked doing a HEAD request on squeaksource (which works but is far from being optimal...) on the massive Pharo repos (9000 files) http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo/Morphic-StephaneDucasse.918.mcz list: ~6.5 sec get: ~6.5 sec head: ~4.5 sec clearly faster! how about adding additional

[Pharo-project] Pharo conf. Social Event

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi, For the conference, the lunches and coffee breaks are covered by INRIA and EMD. Now I would like to organize the social event for the thursday evening. Now our team cannot cover it because our budget is tight but I can have a really good restaurant (I know personally the cook). We could

[Pharo-project] Organization for the Pharo Conf.

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys, I'm preparing the conference. I would like to make sure that we can get discussion around technology and business. I was thinking that we could have a session where you provide a presentation with 3 () slides - Your business - Your technological asset - What

Re: [Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 23 Apr 2012, at 19:26, Camillo Bruni wrote: I just checked doing a HEAD request on squeaksource (which works but is far from being optimal...) on the massive Pharo repos (9000 files) http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo/Morphic-StephaneDucasse.918.mcz list: ~6.5 sec get: ~6.5 sec

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread David Graham
Would the Spoon project be relevant for this scenario? Craig mentioned on the Spoon list that he is working with Cuis. On 4/23/12 11:53 AM, Bernhard Pieber wrote: Hi Göran, Thanks for your question! I have posted the announcement of the Styled Text Editor to the Pharo list as well because I

Re: [Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-04-23, at 19:55, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 23 Apr 2012, at 19:26, Camillo Bruni wrote: I just checked doing a HEAD request on squeaksource (which works but is far from being optimal...) on the massive Pharo repos (9000 files)

Re: [Pharo-project] The Squeak vs Pharo hostility... (was Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk)

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
I stop reacting to these things long ago. It just a waste of time. I don't care if people prefer A over B or C over D, as long as they are not evangelizing me make same choice. I never spew on Squeak or people, since i am part of community.. and its like spewing on myself at the end... Apart

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] PharoLauncher for Mac users

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
Nice.. Fernando also using some kind of launcher.. But nothing can beat good old console ( right, Camillo? ;) On 23 April 2012 17:23, HwaJong Oh daliot...@gmail.com wrote: If you are a Mac(Lion) user, who program in Pharo or other Squeak-like Smalltalk (Squeak, Cobalt, Seaside one-click,

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo conf. Social Event

2012-04-23 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Stef, On 23 Apr 2012, at 19:25, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi, For the conference, the lunches and coffee breaks are covered by INRIA and EMD. Now I would like to organize the social event for the thursday evening. Now our team cannot cover it because our budget is tight but I can have

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo conf. Social Event

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 23 April 2012 19:25, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, For the conference, the lunches and coffee breaks are covered by INRIA and EMD. Now I would like to organize the social event for the thursday evening. Now our team cannot cover it because our budget is tight

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo conf. Social Event

2012-04-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I'm in :) On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 23 April 2012 19:25, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, For the conference, the lunches and coffee breaks are covered by INRIA and EMD. Now I would like to organize the social event for the thursday

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks for your question! I have posted the announcement of the Styled Text Editor to the Pharo list as well because I still have not given up on the idea to port it to Squeak and Pharo. It is not straightforward but I consider it possible. Currently the Styled Text Editor is an external

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks for your question! I have posted the announcement of the Styled Text Editor to the Pharo list as well because I still have not given up on the idea to port it to Squeak and Pharo. It is not straightforward but I consider it possible. Currently the Styled Text Editor is an external

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo conf. Social Event

2012-04-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Sven I will check with luc to see what we can do. Now the Pharo association does not have a bank account yet :). Stef On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Stef, On 23 Apr 2012, at 19:25, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi, For the conference, the lunches and coffee

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk

2012-04-23 Thread Dale Henrichs
Bernhard, With regards to sharing code between dialects, I'd like to recommend that you look into porting Cypress to Cuis (I'm willing to help as much as I can). The Cypress project is aimed from the get go to enable sharing of packages between Smalltalk dialects with a recognition that

[Pharo-project] About Cypress [Was: Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk]

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
Hi, Dale it is great to see an effort in such direction. I just wonder what .js files doing there? According to what i see, it is just a meta data which holding additional properties per entity.. { category : Cypress-Tests, classinstvars : [ ], classtraitcomposition : {}, classvars : [ ],

Re: [Pharo-project] About Cypress [Was: Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk]

2012-04-23 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Igor This has been discussed on the Metacello mailing list on the 11 and 12th of this month. Regards Hannes On 4/23/12, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Dale it is great to see an effort in such direction. I just wonder what .js files doing there? According to what i see,

Re: [Pharo-project] About Cypress [Was: Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk]

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 24 April 2012 00:56, H. Hirzel hannes.hir...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Igor This has been discussed on the Metacello mailing list on the 11 and 12th of this month. can you please give me a direct link to thread? too much mails.. too much mails. :) Regards Hannes On 4/23/12, Igor

Re: [Pharo-project] About Cypress [Was: Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk]

2012-04-23 Thread H. Hirzel
You are right. It is hidden in another thread http://forum.world.st/FileTree-and-Cypress-status-td4543773.html 'FileTree and Cypress status' The basic outcome was that it is a matter of taste and that Dale does not want to be bothered. In addition other Smalltalkers support it. See signatures on

Re: [Pharo-project] new icon set

2012-04-23 Thread Martin Sandiford
How about cake from the silk set? :) More seriously, what about rosette? I'm guessing that this is the set used: http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png The bullets look kind of familiar from OmniBrowser test cases. Cheers, Martin On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:02 PM,

Re: [Pharo-project] monticello repos speedup

2012-04-23 Thread Dale Henrichs
The good news is that Tobias is diving back into SS3 development, so get your feature requests in early so that he can include them when we roll out the next round of SS3 updates... Dale [1] http://code.google.com/p/squeaksource3/issues/list - Original Message - | From: Camillo Bruni

Re: [Pharo-project] About Cypress [Was: Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk]

2012-04-23 Thread Dale Henrichs
Igor, The short answer is: We could have used literal arrays, but it would have taken more work up front than using the existing (portable) Seaside JSON parser. At this point we have working implementations in 5 different Smalltalk dialects written to use JSON for properties files.

Re: [Pharo-project] About Cypress [Was: Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk]

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
Oh, i'm not subscribed to that list. Anyways.. since i late on the party.. just wanna put my 2 cents here: you don't need a literal dictionary syntax to be able to (de)serialize dictionaries. Just a simple example: we start from: #( propertyName value ) ok, some values can be arrays: #(

Re: [Pharo-project] About Cypress [Was: Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk]

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 24 April 2012 01:57, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, i'm not subscribed to that list. Anyways.. since i late on the party.. just wanna put my 2 cents here: you don't need a literal dictionary syntax to be able to (de)serialize dictionaries. Just a simple example: we start

Re: [Pharo-project] About Cypress [Was: Re: [ANN] Styled Text Editor for Cuis 4.0 Smalltalk]

2012-04-23 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 24 April 2012 01:54, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote: Igor, The short answer is:  We could have used literal arrays, but it would have taken more work up  front than using the existing (portable) Seaside JSON parser. umm.. what more work? Use if existing Smalltalk parser is more

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