Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Milan Mimica
I've been using Glrop for 3 weeks now (not much I know) to link an existing application data model to an existing RDMS model with all sorts of weird mappings and it works fine. Several times I have started to write patches but it turned out it was a problem in my code. Diagnostics could be better.

[Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Since Colin opened a new thread on Squeak-dev about namespaces together with an implementation for environments: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2012-June/164605.html I thought it would be good to ask on Pharo too about the state. What happened to the project from

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 25 Jun 2012, at 21:41, Torsten Bergmann wrote: I'm interested in both, mainly with the focus on options for RDBM systems. Whats is the state of Glorp? If have been using Glorp with Postgresql and it works surprisingly well. It is 'good old technology', not as sexy as all this NoSQL stuff,

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with Monticelo package and corrupted sourcecode/zip

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks thanks! Stef On Jun 26, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote I'm unclear. Does it mean that we have a problem with zip? Package? I don't really know enough about text encoding to say. It seems that people have run into things like this before. I

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
We are working on a module system but it takes time. Since Colin opened a new thread on Squeak-dev about namespaces together with an implementation for environments: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2012-June/164605.html I thought it would be good to ask on Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
BTW we want to finish what we are doing before opening new actions. Since Colin opened a new thread on Squeak-dev about namespaces together with an implementation for environments: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2012-June/164605.html I thought it would be good to

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
while a lot of years of suffering are clamming that I need to say: don't use RDBMs if you can avoid it, I also should point you to http://dbxtalk.smallworks.com.ar/, and GlorpDbx which is around and is the newer port to Pharo you can find :) Esteban On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Sven Van

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Guillermo Polito
Not being Glorp's author, I can tell it has over 600 green tests on pharo. Of course it can have it's problems, but you have some confidence it is ok, and some sources for examples :). On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: while a lot of years of suffering

[Pharo-project] Because we do not have enough failing tests...

2012-06-26 Thread Pavel Krivanek
...I tried to fix the the Jenkins Tests job for Pharo Kernel to process all kernel related jobs and not only a subset that was loadable without errors. So now we have 170 failures. https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo-Kernel%202.0/job/Pharo%20Kernel%202.0%20Tests/26/testReport/ Most of

[Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Regarding Glorp: how well does the Pharo port work with non-Postgresql already: MySQL, SQLServer, Oracle, Firebird, ... ? Thx T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
2012/6/26 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de Regarding Glorp: how well does the Pharo port work with non-Postgresql already: MySQL, SQLServer, Oracle, Firebird, ... ? They do all work with OpenDBXDriver. Of course you will need the OpenDBX library and the database client library. For Glorp, it

Re: [Pharo-project] Because we do not have enough failing tests...

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I would really to move the test to their conceptual package and added in the associated configuration. Right now I'm sick and cannot promise anything. stef On Jun 26, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: ...I tried to fix the the Jenkins Tests job for Pharo Kernel to process all kernel

[Pharo-project] MetacelloPharoPlatform#do:displaying:

2012-06-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
This was *very* annoying, getting a deprecation a million times when load a Metacello config. MetacelloPharoPlatform#do:displaying: should be using #current: instead of #value: do: aBlock displaying: aString self bypassProgressBars ifTrue: [ ^super do: aBlock displaying: aString ].

[Pharo-project] MetacelloPharoPlatform#do:displaying:

2012-06-26 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Sven wrote: This was *very* annoying, getting a deprecation a million times when load a Metacello config. MetacelloPharoPlatform#do:displaying: should be using #current: instead of #value: ... I am not suret where this class lives or comes from. Yes this is annoying in Pharo 2.0 when

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 06/26/2012 12:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: 2012/6/26 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de Regarding Glorp: how well does the Pharo port work with non-Postgresql already: MySQL, SQLServer, Oracle, Firebird, ... ? They do all work with OpenDBXDriver. Of course you will need the OpenDBX

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marsch...@netcetera.ch wrote: On 06/26/2012 12:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: 2012/6/26 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de Regarding Glorp: how well does the Pharo port work with non-Postgresql already: MySQL, SQLServer,

Re: [Pharo-project] MetacelloPharoPlatform#do:displaying:

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote MetacelloPharoPlatform#do:displaying: should be using #current: instead of #value: I created an issue and posted to the Metacello list... http://forum.world.st/MetacelloPharoPlatform-gt-gt-do-displaying-for-Pharo-2-0-td4636679.html Cheers, Sean -- View this

[Pharo-project] git victim

2012-06-26 Thread Camillo Bruni
I am looking for a volunteer / slave / victim.. Is anyone interested in filing out all versions of Pharo 2.0 to git using filetree? I want to have a git repository with all the sources filed out, so we can properly track and annotate changes! (hint to all data miners out there)

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread mail list
I have been using goods in production with 3 images banging away at it on Pharo 1.3. It has been working well. (Some days it fires out over 50K emails/sms/apple push notifications so it is reasonbly significant under load) I run a daily backup of the database using an expect script. I am

Re: [Pharo-project] git victim

2012-06-26 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Maybe with the new Metacello API for github this is possible without having a slave ;-) On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a volunteer / slave / victim.. Is anyone interested in filing out all versions of Pharo 2.0 to git using

[Pharo-project] Integrating OSProcess?

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Issue 5796: Integrate OSProcess http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5796 Are we doing this? If so, are we forking it (I hope not), or just integrating updated package versions as Dave releases them? Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-project] Code completion in all tools

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote Issue 6146: Code completion in all tools - Part 2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6146 Will someone please review this fix. Right now, methods are highlighted in all-red in the tools... -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-project] git victim

2012-06-26 Thread Dale Henrichs
Serge, I think the slave would be responsible for figuring out which packages were involved and then setting up a script to dump them out:) Dale - Original Message - | From: Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com | To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Tuesday, June 26,

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Philippe Marschall
On 06/26/2012 02:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marsch...@netcetera.ch wrote: On 06/26/2012 12:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: 2012/6/26 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de Regarding Glorp: how well does the Pharo port work

Re: [Pharo-project] Code completion in all tools

2012-06-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
It is all red in my 2.0 images too, even the one that I downloaded today to play with. On 26 Jun 2012, at 18:08, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Sean P. DeNigris wrote Issue 6146: Code completion in all tools - Part 2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6146 Will someone please

Re: [Pharo-project] Code completion in all tools

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote It is all red in my 2.0 images too, even the one that I downloaded today to play with. Yes, it is red after Part 1 was integrated. It is fixed in Part 2 above, which has yet to be integrated. To play with the fix, load

Re: [Pharo-project] Persistence options

2012-06-26 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marsch...@netcetera.ch wrote: On 06/26/2012 02:26 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marsch...@netcetera.ch wrote: On 06/26/2012 12:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [Pharo-project] Code completion in all tools

2012-06-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 26 Jun 2012, at 18:40, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Yes, it is red after Part 1 was integrated. It is fixed in Part 2 above, which has yet to be integrated. To play with the fix, load SLICE-Issue-6146-Code-completion-in-all-tools---Part-2-SeanDeNigris.1 from the inbox. Works for me in #20160,

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread James Foster
On Jun 26, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: What happened to the project from Germán Leiva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4I7fSVNX2A we do not want class level namespace because this is the mess As the sponsor for Germán's project, I have some interest in this topic. Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] Code completion in all tools

2012-06-26 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 26, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 26 Jun 2012, at 18:40, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Yes, it is red after Part 1 was integrated. It is fixed in Part 2 above, which has yet to be integrated. To play with the fix, load

[Pharo-project] MCSqueaksourceRepository

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
What is the plan for this class? There don't seem to be any mentions of it in the list archives, it doesn't seem to be used, and doesn't exist in Squeak... Thanks, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/MCSqueaksourceRepository-tp4636737.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-project] MCSqueaksourceRepository

2012-06-26 Thread Camillo Bruni
That was a quick hack to support a decent menu item entry when adding a repository. That saved me so far 39 * 'http://www.squeaksource.com/'.size characters :P On 2012-06-26, at 19:58, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: What is the plan for this class? There don't seem to be any mentions of it in the

Re: [Pharo-project] MCSqueaksourceRepository

2012-06-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 26 Jun 2012, at 20:02, Camillo Bruni wrote: That saved me so far 39 * 'http://www.squeaksource.com/'.size characters :P Arch, is that a dot (.) between the string and size ?? My eyes hurt….

Re: [Pharo-project] Integrating OSProcess?

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jun 26, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Issue 5796: Integrate OSProcess http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5796 Are we doing this? If so, are we forking it (I hope not), or just integrating updated package versions as Dave releases them? This is an interesting

Re: [Pharo-project] git victim

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
camillo I do not understand what you are doing? what is the impact on my energy? what is the impact on my work load? … For the moment I want to get things FINISHED. Stef On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: I am looking for a volunteer / slave /

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
What happened to the project from Germán Leiva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4I7fSVNX2A we do not want class level namespace because this is the mess As the sponsor for Germán's project, I have some interest in this topic. Stéphane has said a couple times that it is wrong but has never

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20161

2012-06-26 Thread Marcus Denker
20161 - Issue 6169: New Spec Version http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6169 Issue 6146: Code completion in all tools - Part 2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6146 Issue 6148: realClass part of Ring

Re: [Pharo-project] MCSqueaksourceRepository

2012-06-26 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-06-26, at 20:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 26 Jun 2012, at 20:02, Camillo Bruni wrote: That saved me so far 39 * 'http://www.squeaksource.com/'.size characters :P Arch, is that a dot (.) between the string and size ?? My eyes hurt…. aiaiai what a misfortunate fat finger :D

Re: [Pharo-project] Integrating OSProcess?

2012-06-26 Thread David T. Lewis
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:09:42PM +0200, St?phane Ducasse wrote: On Jun 26, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Issue 5796: Integrate OSProcess http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5796 Are we doing this? If so, are we forking it (I hope not), or just integrating

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20162

2012-06-26 Thread Marcus Denker
20162 - Issue 6157: remove dead lmmplugin code http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6157 Issue 6161: Finder: Change Pattern back to Examples http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6161 Issue 6168: Changeset#superclassOrder:

[Pharo-project] Google Code labels/templates

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Someone had suggested to remove the Pharo 1.4 Enhancement template, since we're not accepting any. That makes sense. Also, the Nautilus template labels the issue Nautilus, but the label in the list is Type-Nautilus. Which brings me to my next question... The other Types are Bug, Enhancement,

Re: [Pharo-project] MCSqueaksourceRepository

2012-06-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
In your case I would diagnose that as a 'Ruby Fat Finger' ;-) On 26 Jun 2012, at 20:27, Camillo Bruni wrote: On 2012-06-26, at 20:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 26 Jun 2012, at 20:02, Camillo Bruni wrote: That saved me so far 39 * 'http://www.squeaksource.com/'.size characters :P

Re: [Pharo-project] Integrating OSProcess?

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks dave :) I just wanted to say that sometimes forking and pushing is the best way to make progress and it does not imply that people are stealing, just wanted to go faster… whatever. Stef On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:27 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:09:42PM +0200,

Re: [Pharo-project] Integrating OSProcess?

2012-06-26 Thread David T. Lewis
Yes :) On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 09:00:02PM +0200, St?phane Ducasse wrote: thanks dave :) I just wanted to say that sometimes forking and pushing is the best way to make progress and it does not imply that people are stealing, just wanted to go faster? whatever. Stef On Jun 26, 2012, at

[Pharo-project] Nautilus - Can't Rename Temporary

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Issue 6174: [Bug]: Nautilus - Can't Rename Temporary http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6174 1. In a Nautilus code pane, select a temporary 2. Click to bring up the menu with Source code refactoring 3. Choose Rename Temporary 4. Fill in a new name You will see and invalid

Re: [Pharo-project] MCSqueaksourceRepository

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: In your case I would diagnose that as a 'Ruby Fat Finger' ;-) :) We should learn and take what is good there. - good nice support for file - string manipulation - ` with the new small kernel it will be

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20162

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
strnage I did not find it on jenkins. When I updated from 57 i got problems (may be my image was shaky). On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: 20162 - Issue 6157: remove dead lmmplugin code http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6157 Issue 6161:

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread James Foster
On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: What happened to the project from Germán Leiva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4I7fSVNX2A we do not want class level namespace because this is the mess As the sponsor for Germán's project, I have some interest in this topic. Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20162

2012-06-26 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 26, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: strnage I did not find it on jenkins. Jenks stopped to build automatically after we do an update. (we need a jenkis bug tracker...) When I updated from 57 i got problems (may be my image was shaky). On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Marcus

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
+1 on not adding syntax. Never do to a language that which can be done with the language. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of James Foster [smallt...@jgfoster.net] Sent:

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jun 26, 2012, at 9:30 PM, James Foster wrote: On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: What happened to the project from Germán Leiva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4I7fSVNX2A we do not want class level namespace because this is the mess As the sponsor for Germán's

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20162

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Issue 6076: Pharo 2.0 Jenkins build trigger not working http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6076 I did a Build now to get to the latest update. From https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/urltriggerPollLog/? : [URLTrigger] - Poll with a URL Inspecting

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread Frank Shearar
On 26 June 2012 22:17, camille teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I understand the video of Germán's implementation, the import's granularity is at the environment level, for both source-side and sink-side, not at class level: he imports a whole environment into another. All the

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and Namespaces

2012-06-26 Thread James Foster
On Jun 26, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Jun 26, 2012, at 9:30 PM, James Foster wrote: On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: What happened to the project from Germán Leiva http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4I7fSVNX2A we do not want class level namespace

[Pharo-project] Zinc intermittently returning nil

2012-06-26 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
The following all intermittently return nil. When I do the same thing in Safari, I always seem to get the correct answer (plain text). (ZnEasy get: 'https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-2.0/lastSuccessfulBuild/api/xml?xpath=%2F%2A%2Fdescription%2Ftext%28%29') contents. (ZnClient new get:

Re: [Pharo-project] Zinc intermittently returning nil

2012-06-26 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I know *nothing* about Zinc, but my first thought is weak collections and how they are not thread safe (which they need to be) and are not self-repairing after finalization - they end up w/ retained nils. Dolphin blazed the correct trail on this in the mid to late 90s.