Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc

2012-08-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Zinc is much better anyway. Not only from a technological point of view, much more from a social one. Zinc constantly improved over the year and sven is always open to improvements. Zinc is a really nice gift to the community and we deeply appreciated the long effort sven did. Sven is aligned

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

2012-08-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:46 PM, johnmci wrote: David Lewis and I spent a far amount of time a few years back to make the 32 vm 4gb clean. So are you running on stale knowledge here, or does the vm crash when to goes over 2gb? sorry my english limit does not let me know understanding what you

[Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

2012-08-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys Configuration should not be only in metacello repository. Think objects! Now how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository? should we fork it for real. I think that we should migrate from squeak source really soon now. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Wouldn't this fulfill both requirements ? http://digwp.com/2010/06/blogging-in-markdown/ Phil 2012/8/1 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com Ah, I see, the docs in markdown. I like it. I tried to use markdown for NativeBoost documentation, and it quite nice.. But as Stef says, we need something

[Pharo-project] Restricted browsing with Nautilus

2012-08-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
hi, i tried to use this feature for looking senders of a message, and it working great!! filtering out unrelated stuff is a blessing! just one thing, i don't feel like restricted is a best term for that.. i think better would be scoped.. also i cannot see any visual difference between two browser

Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

2012-08-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
exactly! http://guides.rubygems.org/ We should have a services where you can do: ConfigurationOfFoo publish. which will upload it to a central Metacello repository as well. So you always find the bleeding edge config in the project's repos and the more stable ones in the main metacello

Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

2012-08-01 Thread Patrik Sundberg
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: exactly! http://guides.rubygems.org/ We should have a services where you can do: ConfigurationOfFoo publish. which will upload it to a central Metacello repository as well. So you always find the

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
20238 - Issue 6447: [ENH]: #assert:equals: message should not truncate http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6447 Issue 6448: [BUG]: TextEditorDialogWindow should Fit All Text http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6448 Issue 6485:

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
...and the url trigger does not work :/ https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/urltriggerPollLog/? On 2012-08-01, at 13:59, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: 20238 - Issue 6447: [ENH]: #assert:equals: message should not truncate

[Pharo-project] [Preview] The Alternative Browser

2012-08-01 Thread Goubier Thierry
Hi all, I'm happy to announce a prototype release of an alternative system browser for Pharo 2.0, at the following place : http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Alt-Browser Beware, it's a preview; but it let you experiment with the following features : * Reorganize / built a hierarchy of all

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
and what does that means? because the update worked, AFAIS On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: ...and the url trigger does not work :/ https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/urltriggerPollLog/? On 2012-08-01, at 13:59, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-project] [Preview] The Alternative Browser

2012-08-01 Thread Benjamin
Great news :) I will have a look asap :) Ben On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to announce a prototype release of an alternative system browser for Pharo 2.0, at the following place : http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Alt-Browser Beware, it's a preview;

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
yeah, I changed the build to use the hudson URL checker and not the URLTrigger plugin. seems like the simpler default version works :) On 2012-08-01, at 14:15, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: and what does that means? because the update worked, AFAIS On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:02 PM,

[Pharo-project] A VM-dev blog. (Was: Re: Going meta (VM development))

2012-08-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
So, i registered a blog on wordpress and sent invitation to join to following people: Esteban, Dave, Eliot, Guillermo, Camillo, Dimitry, Sean. The blog address is dailyVMotion.wordpress.com The idea behind this blog is to brag about what you do, what you did or what you plan to do.. It don't

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 August 2012 12:54, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Wouldn't this fulfill both requirements ? http://digwp.com/2010/06/blogging-in-markdown/ Phil yeeah.. unfortunately, wordpress.com seems like don't supports that plugin.. or maybe it does, but i don't know where to look for

Re: [Pharo-project] [Preview] The Alternative Browser

2012-08-01 Thread Goubier Thierry
Please do. I do have a few things I don't know how to solve :-( But, interestingly, sometimes things which looks like bugs in this browser are really like that in the system (such as overlapping packages?). Thierry Le 01/08/2012 14:15, Benjamin a écrit : Great news :) I will have a look

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Damn wordpress.com and let's self host this one. Need a space? Can give you whatever is needed. Phil 2012/8/1 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com On 1 August 2012 12:54, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Wouldn't this fulfill both requirements ?

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Other than that, I'll look at how we can solve this one. 2012/8/1 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com On 1 August 2012 12:54, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Wouldn't this fulfill both requirements ? http://digwp.com/2010/06/blogging-in-markdown/ Phil yeeah..

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] ss3 is down

2012-08-01 Thread Dale Henrichs
It's up now ... I'll find out if there was an outage when I go into the office this morning... Dale - Original Message - | From: Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com | To: Pharo Development pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Cc: metace...@googlegroups.com | Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

2012-08-01 Thread John McIntosh
A few years back the interpreted virtual machine was fixed to allow an image to grow to the 4 GB limit. It is unclear to me if someone regressed the software to impose a 2GB limit again, or if the 2GB number mentioned is based on how things worked10 years ago? On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:01 AM,

[Pharo-project] We cannot remove package [was] Re: How to correctly remove a package for everywhere?

2012-08-01 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Soagain this problem. Please guys, this is a stop-the-world problem. We simply cannot remove packages. In http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6493 I removed lots of packages. The packages does not seem to appear, but classes are still present. For example, FLPackageStore is from

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

2012-08-01 Thread John McIntosh
I'm sure I built a vm for 64 bits a few years back, maybe not a stack one, can't remember ya http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-January/003732.html On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:01 AM, David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.comwrote: I don't know of anyone who has built a StackVM for

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 August 2012 14:54, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Other than that, I'll look at how we can solve this one. ah.. don't waste your time on something which is not significant. a usual posts is going to be like: - okay i installed/built VM like that, that and that.. or i added

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

2012-08-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 August 2012 14:57, John McIntosh john...@smalltalkconsulting.com wrote: A few years back the interpreted virtual machine was fixed to allow an image to grow to the 4 GB limit. It is unclear to me if someone regressed the software to impose a 2GB limit again, or if the 2GB number

Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

2012-08-01 Thread Dale Henrichs
Cami, As Patrik has mentioned the Metacello scripting api is headed in this direction ... for example the following expression provides a list of the Pier configurations in the squeaksource MetacelloRepository: Metacello new configuration: [:spec | spec name beginsWith: 'Pier'];

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 6076: Pharo 2.0 Jenkins build trigger not working

2012-08-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote please give Jenkins a few minutes to trigger a build and let me know if it happened or not. It seems that the Pharo 2.0 build is being correctly triggered again as of build #243, Aug 1, 2012 2:43:47 AM, 2.0 #20237. I'm closing the issue. Let me know if there are any

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Igor Stasenko wrote yeeah.. unfortunately, wordpress.com seems like don't supports that plugin.. or maybe it does, but i don't know where to look for (if you can help, it will be nice) Per http://en.support.wordpress.com/plugins/ : Plugins... are only applicable to self-hosted blogs and

Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

2012-08-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-08-01, at 15:22, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote: Cami, As Patrik has mentioned the Metacello scripting api is headed in this direction ... for example the following expression provides a list of the Pier configurations in the squeaksource MetacelloRepository:

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote yeah, I changed the build to use the hudson URL checker and not the URLTrigger plugin. Oops, I deleted the URL checker trigger when I saw the URLTrigger had worked for the #20237 build. Are you saying that it stopped working again for #20238?! WTF?! -- View this

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-08-01, at 15:37, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Camillo Bruni-3 wrote yeah, I changed the build to use the hudson URL checker and not the URLTrigger plugin. Oops, I deleted the URL checker trigger when I saw the URLTrigger had worked for the #20237 build. Are

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote one works (the simple one line config) and one doesn't (the ultra fancy interface). I'm assuming (simple = Build when a URL's content changes) [1] and (fancy = URLTrigger) [2] If you check https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/243/console ,

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-08-01, at 15:43, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Camillo Bruni-3 wrote one works (the simple one line config) and one doesn't (the ultra fancy interface). I'm assuming (simple = Build when a URL's content changes) [1] and (fancy = URLTrigger) [2] yeah If you

Re: [Pharo-project] [ENH]: Test Failure Browser

2012-08-01 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
So...I did it. With the latest Pharo update 20238 (with new Fuel version) and my latest commit HudsonBuildTools20-MarianoMartinezPeck.3 to CISupport, we have all what I mentioned here. So all you have to do is: FLMaterializer materializeFromFileNamed: 'XXXTest-testYYY.fuel'. I have also updated

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20238

2012-08-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote actually I don't really care for as long as it works :P Me too. I thought I read somewhere that the simple one was obsolete, but if it's working now... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/update-2-0-20238-tp4642413p4642481.html Sent from the

Re: [Pharo-project] [ENH]: Test Failure Browser

2012-08-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote it would awesome if you can now improve TestMedic to display the debug information of a selected test before debugging it. Sounds easy enough... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ENH-Test-Failure-Browser-tp4641525p4642482.html Sent from

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
If you can provide me with a login, I am going to write my iOS VM StackVM story :-) Phil 2012/8/1 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com On 1 August 2012 14:54, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Other than that, I'll look at how we can solve this one. ah.. don't waste your time on

[Pharo-project] Spec help

2012-08-01 Thread Goubier Thierry
In Spec, how do we set an icon for the top-level morph created ? Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread Frank Shearar
And someone should nag Nick Ager to share his experience telling the UKSTUG folk about the Pharo VM. (With the help of the audience he got Pharo running in the iPhone simulator.) Nick, write it up! frank On 1 August 2012 15:13, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: If you can provide me

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 August 2012 16:13, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: If you can provide me with a login, I am going to write my iOS VM StackVM story :-) done Phil 2012/8/1 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com On 1 August 2012 14:54, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Other than

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread Dale Henrichs
If you're not going to be intimately collaborating on code, then a general blog will work just fine ... Dale - Original Message - | From: Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com | To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr | Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:10:47 AM | Subject: Re:

Re: [Pharo-project] Going meta (VM development)

2012-08-01 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
I think Nick Ager has a great tool for this purpose. He showed us that in PharoConf. Nick, they are all years ;) On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote: If you're not going to be intimately collaborating on code, then a general blog will work just fine ...

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20239

2012-08-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
20239 - Issue 6477: Remove SystemChangeNotifier 3 - Cleaning step 1 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6477 Issue 6484: Static subscriptions to SystemAnnouncer done via pragmas http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6484 Issue

Re: [Pharo-project] How do download a binary file as a stream with Zinc?

2012-08-01 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.bewrote: Hi Mariano, (I can't access the file you gave as an example, probably an extra #username:password: is needed) You are making it

[Pharo-project] double elements in diff morph?

2012-08-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, Since some days I'm often seeing that merge tool shows duplicated entries... I'm not sure why that happens and how... Can someone confirm the problem? If it is there... does anyone has an idea of why can that be happening? thanks, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-project] double elements in diff morph?

2012-08-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-08-01, at 17:04, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Since some days I'm often seeing that merge tool shows duplicated entries... I'm not sure why that happens and how... Can someone confirm the problem? a million times so far... If it is there... does anyone has

Re: [Pharo-project] Spec help

2012-08-01 Thread Benjamin
an icon ? What for ? Ben On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: In Spec, how do we set an icon for the top-level morph created ? Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

2012-08-01 Thread David T. Lewis
Hi John, There is no regression in the interpreter VM ... well actually there was about 6 months back, but I keep an eye on it and it's fixed again now :) The 32-bit interpreter VM will not fail on any 2GB or 4BG boundaries, and an interpreter VM compiled for the 64-bit object format can handle

Re: [Pharo-project] [Preview] The Alternative Browser

2012-08-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thierry do you have a video? Stef On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Goubier Thierry wrote: Hi all, I'm happy to announce a prototype release of an alternative system browser for Pharo 2.0, at the following place : http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Alt-Browser Beware, it's a preview; but it let

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

2012-08-01 Thread David T. Lewis
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 09:04:20AM -0400, John McIntosh wrote: I'm sure I built a vm for 64 bits a few years back, maybe not a stack one, can't remember ya http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-January/003732.html John: Thanks, I had forgotten about your 64*64 VM, I think

Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

2012-08-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys Configuration should not be only in metacello repository. Think objects! Now how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository? should we fork it for real. I think that we should migrate from squeak source really soon now. Guys my question remain

[Pharo-project] RE : Spec help

2012-08-01 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
The taskbar, I guess :-) I'm jealous of the yellow submarine... Thierry De : pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] de la part de Benjamin [benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com] Date d'envoi : mercredi

[Pharo-project] RE : [Preview] The Alternative Browser

2012-08-01 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
I'll have to make one, and script a bit. I'll try tomorrow. A youtube thing would be Ok? Thierry De : pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] de la part de Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.duca...@inria.fr]

Re: [Pharo-project] RE : [Preview] The Alternative Browser

2012-08-01 Thread Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras
yes, pleaseee On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, GOUBIER Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.frwrote: I'll have to make one, and script a bit. I'll try tomorrow. A youtube thing would be Ok? Thierry De : pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [

Re: [Pharo-project] RE : Spec help

2012-08-01 Thread Benjamin
Try to add taskbarIcon returning an icon on class side :) Ben On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:17 PM, GOUBIER Thierry wrote: The taskbar, I guess :-) I'm jealous of the yellow submarine... Thierry De : pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository

2012-08-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-08-01, at 20:38, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys Configuration should not be only in metacello repository. Think objects! Now how can we commit the configuration of rb to the refactoring browser repository? should we fork it for real. I think that we

[Pharo-project] Pharo on retina display

2012-08-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Like all apps not upgraded for retina, Pharo looks pixelated and fuzzy on the new MBPs. Is there any workaround which at least makes the text less fuzzy? http://forum.world.st/file/n4642567/Screen_Shot_2012-08-01_at_3.48.23_PM.png -- View this message in context:

[Pharo-project] RE : RE : Spec help

2012-08-01 Thread GOUBIER Thierry
Ok, worked but this way : add a taskbarIcon in WindowModel (instance side, ^ self model taskbarIcon) and a taskbarIcon in my ComposableModel subclass (instance side as well). Thierry De : pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on retina display

2012-08-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
no... but if I can get a mbp retina, I can take a look and make it work ;) On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Like all apps not upgraded for retina, Pharo looks pixelated and fuzzy on the new MBPs. Is there any workaround which at least makes the text

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on retina display

2012-08-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 August 2012 21:56, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Like all apps not upgraded for retina, Pharo looks pixelated and fuzzy on the new MBPs. Is there any workaround which at least makes the text less fuzzy? Use freetype :)

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory usage

2012-08-01 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Dave wrote: Please try the 64bitImage*64bitVM image from John's site here: ftp://ftp.smalltalkconsulting.com/experimental/64bit/ Loads and runs on my 10.7.3 MBA. If you can run that VM on your Mac, it should do exactly what you need. Try running that VM with one of your images. If it runs and

[Pharo-project] Differential and Integral calculus in Pharo?

2012-08-01 Thread Clara Allende
Hi guys, after having exhausting four months of Physics lessons, I decided that would be fun to write a program to deal with Electricity problems :) (Yeah, I'm not a normal person :P) So, I need to make differential and integral calculus, are there any libraries to do so? Or any place that I can

Re: [Pharo-project] Differential and Integral calculus in Pharo?

2012-08-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 2 August 2012 00:03, Clara Allende clari.alle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, after having exhausting four months of Physics lessons, I decided that would be fun to write a program to deal with Electricity problems :) (Yeah, I'm not a normal person :P) welcome to the club! :) So, I need to

[Pharo-project] threads using NativeBoost

2012-08-01 Thread Lawson English
I'm to the point now where I want to try to call a library from NativeBoost in its own thread. Has anyone tried this? are there are any guidelines for threaded external libraries? Are there issues that would make this more difficult? Etc. Basically, I've got a mandelbrot set lib I'm playing

Re: [Pharo-project] Differential and Integral calculus in Pharo?

2012-08-01 Thread Benjamin
Hello :) I think I have seen such a package on squeaksource once :s Sorry for not being able to help more :( Ben On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 2 August 2012 00:03, Clara Allende clari.alle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, after having exhausting four months of Physics

Re: [Pharo-project] Differential and Integral calculus in Pharo?

2012-08-01 Thread Dale Henrichs
Clara, I am not mathematician, but Serge Stinckwich has a boatload of Math implementations collected in his SciSmalltalk project[1]: Tools for scientific computation in Smalltalk. He and Daniel Uber have been working together on the project... You might find some of what you are looking for...

Re: [Pharo-project] Differential and Integral calculus in Pharo?

2012-08-01 Thread Lawson English
Recently, I ran into this: http://maxima.sourceforge.net/ an interface/binding lib might be easier than writing your own from scratch. L On 8/1/12 3:03 PM, Clara Allende wrote: Hi guys, after having exhausting four months of Physics lessons, I decided that would be fun to write a program to