I get your point Igor but then again, we're all somewhat self taught which
means that as a developer if you don't understand something you hack around
until you get it. It's not like I'm going to break anything in the released
products, right? And I think I can judge the risk of wrecking my own
Hi Udo!
Well, as fare as I know there is currently no equivalent Ruby's
EventMachine, or similar event based server infrastructure.
There is AioPlugin for async IO http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3384 which
lets Smalltalk process (looking from the os view) to get async notifications
of IO events,
On 2012-11-08, at 04:39, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
sure sure..
but guys... i really doubt that i would want to see people poking with
NB who don't even have a
basic understanding of malloc(ed) memory management and working with
memory buffers pointers.
For such sort of
On 04.11.2012 18:37, Benjamin wrote:
In Pharo 1.4, browse Morph
Find the method fullDrawOn:
and replace
on: Error do: [:err |
self setProperty: #errorOnDraw toValue: true.
self setProperty: #drawError toValue: err freeze.
^ self drawErrorOn:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 November 2012 11:11, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
if the chunks you wan to cut off are big enough you could
potentially allocate a new object there which get's gc-ed.
yes..
actually you can 'crop' the
yes... but the athens ready VMs are also coming with pharo 2.0 so...
On Nov 8, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 November 2012 10:07, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
pharo 2.0 will be athens ready... that means NB ready too :)
well, i actually
Hi,
I was executing a piece of code that collects the revisions of a Git repo in
Pharo but it seems Pharo requires more memory..
How do I increase the available memory?
Here is the log:
SmalltalkImagesignalLowSpace
OutOfMemorydefaultAction
UndefinedObjecthandleSignal:
Hi Igor,
thanks for the reply.
The idea working with Semaphore has definitly it's own charm. From my
last (high-level) check I only found serial primitives which return 0
bytes if nothing was recieved meanwhile - no Semaphore as far as I saw.
Regarding adding support for this - I try to
Ciao Roberto, which is the current size of the image? (the .image file).
If you evaluate the following a couple of times (print it cmd-p), you will
cleanup most of the unreferenced objects in the image, it returns a number
so you can compare it to successive evaluations.
Smalltalk
By passing appropriate arguments when launching the VM on the command line.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:16 AM, roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote:
Hi,
I was executing a piece of code that collects the revisions of a Git repo in
Pharo but it seems Pharo requires more memory..
How
Hi,
There is now a command line option to load updates.
To test it:
wget --quiet -qO - http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/ciPharo20NBCog.sh | bash
./vm.sh Pharo.image update
What is does it to load updates, then snapshot and quit.
The idea is to use this in the new CI setup so we don't need any
nice! :)
now we should rewrite the monkey fully in Pharo, given that we have now
almost everything needed that shouldn't be that hard anymore ;)!
On 2012-11-08, at 14:39, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Hi,
There is now a command line option to load updates.
To test it:
Hi Fernando,
On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch
wrote:
Ciao Roberto, which is the current size of the image? (the .image file).
The image is indeed fresh, just installed FileSystemGit.. It's about 30 MB..
If you evaluate the following a couple of times
20385
-
Issue 6936: Compiler tests dependent on TextMorph
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6936
Issue 6935: CompilerEvaluationTest dependent on Debugger
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6935
Issue 6934: move
Is this a known issue, or my tar install is wrong?
yes it is known..
i had to install 7z support for tar.
this is because MacOS is number of years behind the most recent release of
tar,
which supports 7z compressing by default :)
so that has to be installed on OSX or not?
If we should
Who snuffed the poor guy ? I don't know what magic (yea, i know, not just one
magic, bunch of magix really ;-) you did but ... I downloaded Pharo 2.0 to give
it a whirl (I love smalltalk and keep playing with it / write an app in it
every once in a while), unzipped it, doble clicked the binary
Automatic CI update jobs startup is not working so I started it manually.
-- Pavel
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
20385
-
Issue 6936: Compiler tests dependent on TextMorph
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6936
Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com writes:
Hi Friedrich,
I did not test myself but I will soon.
Since the Jenkins is down, you can found the latest VM (with the SerialPlugin
modifications that Esteban did) in my dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/flx2cc8mjszhckg/uZ8sTxSB1k
Ok I
[update 2.0] #20386
20386
-
Issue 6933: Fixing the fact that typing ...
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6933
Issue 6853: Monticello merge conflicts on reordered package names
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6853
Issue
Hi:
On 06 Nov 2012, at 17:59, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
The attached change set fixes bit rot in the StackInterpreterSimulator and
related classes.
Here a brief summary:
- VMClass#doOrDefer: now uses ProcessBrowser#isUIProcess: instead of
Project
- it replaces the use of #asDisplayText
2012/11/8 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de
Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com writes:
Hi Friedrich,
I did not test myself but I will soon.
Since the Jenkins is down, you can found the latest VM (with the
SerialPlugin
modifications that Esteban did) in my dropbox:
BUILD FAILUREBuild URLhttps://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/pharo-2.0-tests/./label_exp=win/467/Project:label_exp=winDate of build:Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:20:13 +0100Build duration:9 min 8 secCHANGESNo ChangesBUILD
On Nov 7, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Hello,
We are experiencing some stability issues with
https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/
But the good news is: people here have been busy, and there will be a
completely new
ci infrastructure soon.
First job for
BUILD FAILUREBuild URLhttps://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/pharo-2.0-tests/./label_exp=win/468/Project:label_exp=winDate of build:Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:35:36 +0100Build duration:10 minCHANGESNo ChangesBUILD
…I mean ever.
Because you'll screw your image.
Mostly when you also are on OS X but, for some crazy reason of the Universe,
your TimeMachine was not operating normally on your laptop while coding.
And you weren't committing in the monticello repo because it was work in
progress and you
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
[update 2.0] #20386
20386
-
Issue 6933: Fixing the fact that typing ...
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6933
Issue 6853: Monticello merge conflicts on reordered package names
Again
I told you several time, do you think that a guy do not understand what is a
pointer because he does not know how to write it
in C?
Give a chance to professionals to learn. We are not talking about explaining
what is a pointer, but explaining the
potential problems and challenges
With
oops! fix in inbox :)
On Nov 8, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
[update 2.0] #20386
20386
-
Issue 6933: Fixing the fact that typing ...
And you can be pretty sure that most pharoers (including myself) have
a pretty vague notion about malloc/free, combined with the internals
of an third party C library, that makes a pretty unstable field.
Again, no silver bullets here, but less arrogance and more examples!
+1
but we can
On Nov 8, 2012, at 1:43 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
This is really good news!
I really like that INRIA pays attention to issues we having and takes
into account our experience and input.
This is, of course, what anyone would expect from any reasonable organization
:)
but to me I do not know
Debugging UI code is one of those places you probably want to insert a
haltOnce instead, or risk losing the image :)
and event :) and shortcut code :)
On Nov 8, 2012, at 4:03 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 6 November 2012 15:36, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Very good that there is progress on this front !
Even better news about Igor ;-)
i always asking myself, if this horse worth its bets.
Thank you, Stephane others for
:-) you were faster.. with the same code ;-)
-- Pavel
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
oops! fix in inbox :)
On Nov 8, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Marcus Denker
Cool!
I like the noise of the falling of large bash scripts.
The lesser the better
Stef
Hi,
There is now a command line option to load updates.
To test it:
wget --quiet -qO - http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/ciPharo20NBCog.sh | bash
./vm.sh Pharo.image update
What is does it to
Thanks Miloslav
This is strange because we are not really satisfied from this point of view.
There are a lot of cleaning to do to get a snappy morphic.
Stef
Who snuffed the poor guy ? I don’t know what magic (yea, i know, not just one
magic, bunch of magix really ;-) you did but ... I
On 11/8/2012 1:30 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
And you can be pretty sure that most pharoers (including myself) have
a pretty vague notion about malloc/free, combined with the internals
of an third party C library, that makes a pretty unstable field.
Again, no silver bullets here, but less
Hi,
One of the cool things of Smalltalk's images/changes file is that you can do a
World Menu Tools Recover lost changes… to get back most [1] of your code in
case your image/OS/machine suddenly crashed or you forgot to save your image or
commit your Monticello packages.
But we all have
jimmie
***THANKS***
I'm in the same situation even if I read several lectures and books on C.
So I want a tutorials that takes us into account and I'm sure that this is
faisable.
Just need care, love and time.
STef
On Nov 8, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
On 11/8/2012 1:30 PM,
On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
One of the cool things of Smalltalk's images/changes file is that you can do
a World Menu Tools Recover lost changes… to get back most [1] of your
code in case your image/OS/machine suddenly crashed or you forgot to save
On 08 Nov 2012, at 20:29, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
I told you several time, do you think that a guy do not understand what is a
pointer because he does not know how to write it
in C?
Give a chance to professionals to learn. We are not talking about explaining
what
On 08 Nov 2012, at 21:09, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
One of the cool things of Smalltalk's images/changes file is that you can do
a World Menu Tools Recover lost changes… to get back most [1] of your
On Nov 8, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
On 08 Nov 2012, at 20:29, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
I told you several time, do you think that a guy do not understand what is a
pointer because he does not know how to write it
in C?
Give a chance to
Hey there Sebastian,
I feel your pain. Unfortunately there seem to be *many* places / situations
where halting is a very bad idea and renders your image unusable.
That's why I think it would be a good idea to have a list of these places
(in the documentation and in the Pharo welcome Workspace),
You can build a VM and skip to the next bytecode ;)
http://forum.world.st/Fwd-Oops-I-put-a-halt-in-a-startup-method-td3800729.html
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey there Sebastian,
I feel your pain. Unfortunately there seem to be *many* places /
This tip is very welcome, didn't know that you could import changes made
from another image. Should definitely be included in the section
recovering lost changes in the Pharo book (in case it isn't there already
;-).
Also very welcome is a new description of changes. Without knowing its
details,
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
This tip is very welcome, didn't know that you could import changes made
from another image.
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/05/19/pharo-tips-and-tricks/
title Recovering lost code:
I paste it here:
*- Recovering
humm I actually already improved the startup quiet a bit to prevent
stupid people like me to crash images ;)
but the halt is not yet caught, I have to add that, then you'll simply
get a warning at startup :P
On 2012-11-08, at 22:34, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote:
You can
https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6941
so that your experience will be last one :)
On 2012-11-08, at 22:49, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
humm I actually already improved the startup quiet a bit to prevent
stupid people like me to crash images ;)
but the halt
Could you debug the VM and alter the bytecodes?
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Sebastian Sastre
sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote:
…I mean ever.
Because you'll screw your image.
Mostly when you also are on OS X but, for some crazy reason of the
Universe, your TimeMachine was not
Cool :-) This will be a default behaviour, or activated through a
command-line switch?
2012/11/8 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com
https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6941
so that your experience will be last one :)
Hi Laurent,
let me share my way of solving this. My method works from a Workspace or
Inspector/Explorer. What I do is invoke drawOn: manually, passing a
NullCanvas (a dummy canvas).
Suppose I have a reference (in a Workspace/Inspector) for my buggy morph,
called m:
m drawOn: (NullCanvas new).
I'm currently trying Sven idea:
1. use a fresh pharo image (same base version your screwed one's changes is)
2. rename (a copy of) the changes file as .cs
3. open file browser and try to file in that .cs
The first try didn't work because some compilation error.
I've removed the offending code
I am developing an application which needs to access a proprietary
business API to access data from their servers.
Currently because I don't know how to do that from within Pharo, I have
been using Python/COM. But that API is deprecated and expires soon. Now
I have to move to an app which
On 11/8/2012 7:50 PM, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
I am developing an application which needs to access a proprietary
business API to access data from their servers.
Currently because I don't know how to do that from within Pharo, I
have been using Python/COM. But that API is deprecated and expires
On 8 November 2012 22:50, Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com wrote:
I am developing an application which needs to access a proprietary business
API to access data from their servers.
Currently because I don't know how to do that from within Pharo, I have been
using Python/COM. But that API is
On 8 November 2012 23:25, Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com wrote:
On a second look at the API's documentation, the DLL is C++ not C. I don't
know, but that might have been evident by the requirement of implementing
interfaces.
well, with C++ it is a bit worse than C: because C++ compilers
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Pharo Community,
are there plans to host a Pharo wiki somewhere?
(for tutorials, tips, faqs, documentation, ideas, brainstorming, etc.)
We have this: http://book.pharo-project.org/
Cheers,
Sebastian
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