On 1/23/13 1:24 AM, J. P. L. Martín argu...@gmail.com wrote:
Say I have an OrderedCollection which I want to save into a file and then
recover from that file when I restart the application. How should I proceed?
So far I've been doing a mess, saving the OrderedCollection on a file
On Jan 23, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.com
wrote:
File in the attached in Pharo 1.4, Squeak or Cuis and you have a way of
save / load simple Objects into the three forks.
And if you speak Spanish, we have
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/squeakRos/
+1
in the context of Pharo, no doubt, Fuel is THE solution
Squeak has to support legacy ReferenceStream a bit longer, but even in
Squeak I would inquire about Fuel
2013/1/23 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr:
On Jan 23, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.com
wrote:
I really think that for the process of polishing 2.0 from beta to release we
need a new label for issues.
Bugs like the one below are really important, they might be silly or easy to
fix, but they leave a bad impression. We want as many people as possible to
help, but UX failures like this
which reminds me, we should have a dumb default serializer method on Object:
Object new serializeTo: 'aFile' asFileReference
cause I never figure out which Fuel class to use for serialization :)
On 2013-01-23, at 08:54, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 05:24, J. P.
check the project page for all examples and explanations:
http://smalltalkthoughts.blogspot.ch/2009/11/phexample-because-examples-expand-on.html
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~akuhn/blog/2009/shoulda-use-this-in-pharo
to me this feels more like Smalltalk and less like Java ;)
On 2013-01-23, at 08:47,
so yeah, looks like the linux VMs won't run anymore under ubuntu 10
you will can find out the last version of GLIBC on your distro by running
strings /lib/libc.so.6 | grep GLIBC
On 2013-01-22, at 17:41, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
For example:
curl
Well, of course, JUnit feels that way because of SUnit, but sure.
RSpec-like testing languages read much more easily than #assert:, in
my not so humble opinion.
frank
On 23 January 2013 10:04, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
check the project page for all examples and explanations:
Yes we #should ;-)
It is beautiful.
On 23 Jan 2013, at 11:04, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
check the project page for all examples and explanations:
http://smalltalkthoughts.blogspot.ch/2009/11/phexample-because-examples-expand-on.html
On Jan 23, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
I really think that for the process of polishing 2.0 from beta to release we
need a new label for issues.
Bugs like the one below are really important, they might be silly or easy to
fix, but they leave a bad
FYI, we are already using Phexample in Moose since several years, and it
just works out of the box next to Sunit.
Doru
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Yes we #should ;-)
It is beautiful.
On 23 Jan 2013, at 11:04, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comjavascript:;
On 23 Jan 2013, at 11:34, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
FYI, we are already using Phexample in Moose since several years, and it just
works out of the box next to Sunit.
That is good to know.
Moose is a really important project for Pharo.
It feels good to know that such a big code
On Jan 23, 2013 1:16 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
yes please!
On 2013-01-22, at 19:10, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
as all the core packages for pharo (and NB is one of them), it should
be in smalltalkhub :)
+1
On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Marcus
On 1/23/13 6:25 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Keep in mind that ReferenceStream is deprecated in 2.0
The nice thing about Fuel is:
- Very much faster
- output more compact
- you can store *any* kind of objects.
(even the one you are sure you can't, like
What you can with Athens and the Cairo backend is:
1) create a surface in memory
2) draw to the surface
3) export that surface to a png
4) import that png into a form
The main point is step 3, cairo can export any surface to a png. Then
within Pharo, any form can be created from a png.
Also,
This is exactly what I would expect as a headless test case for Athens ;)
On 2013-01-23, at 12:06, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch wrote:
What you can with Athens and the Cairo backend is:
1) create a surface in memory
2) draw to the surface
3) export that surface to a png
4)
Hey!
I have a struct something like this:
struct {
const char * attribute;
int size;
int datatype;
}
...and I am trying something like this to match an NBExternalStructure:
fieldsDesc
^#(
String attribute;
int size;
Fuel works in 1.4 just fine.
Doru
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
On 1/23/13 6:25 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr javascript:;
wrote:
Keep in mind that ReferenceStream is deprecated in 2.0
The nice thing about Fuel is:
- Very much faster
-
Sure, such kind of DSL is cute,
What is the relation to http://www.squeaksource.com/SSpec/ ?
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~dionisiy/Mocketry ?
Nicolas
2013/1/23 Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com:
Well, of course, JUnit feels that way because of SUnit, but sure.
RSpec-like testing
We are releasing Moose as soon as we figure out how to load RPackage from
PharoTaskForces squeak source repository (see my previous mail), and
afterwards we move to 2.0.
Cheers,
Doru
On Wednesday, January 23, 2013, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 11:34, Tudor Girba
On 1/23/13 8:36 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Fuel works in 1.4 just fine.
Doru
Yes, never said some different.
And works on Squeal also, thanks to Mariano and others.
Edgar
Hi Fernando,
I don't want a Form... quitte the opposite! :)
What I want is to have something equivalent to athens to what now is covered in
morphic with ImageReadWriter.
Or, better explained, I want an AthensImageReadWriter who answers me a surface
(or something that I can draw with an
No idea but we should fix it.
Stef
Hi,
It seems that the http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoTaskForces repository is
broken.
When I try to connect to it via Monticello, I get a SubscriptOutOfBounds:
0. The problem seems to be that the repository somehow has a file called
'.mcz'
On 1/23/13 8:47 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 1/23/13 6:25 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Keep in mind that ReferenceStream is deprecated in 2.0
The
On 23 January 2013 12:58, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Fernando,
I don't want a Form... quitte the opposite! :)
What I want is to have something equivalent to athens to what now is covered
in morphic with ImageReadWriter.
Or, better explained, I want an
On 23 January 2013 12:23, Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se wrote:
Hey!
I have a struct something like this:
struct {
const char * attribute;
int size;
int datatype;
}
...and I am trying something like this to match an NBExternalStructure:
fieldsDesc
^#(
On Jan 23, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 12:58, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Fernando,
I don't want a Form... quitte the opposite! :)
What I want is to have something equivalent to athens to what now is covered
in morphic
On 23 January 2013 14:34, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 23, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 12:58, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Fernando,
I don't want a Form... quitte the opposite! :)
What I want is to
On 21 January 2013 19:55, Ciprian Teodorov ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Igor,
as usual after squeaksource restart, i lost my commit rights on the
NativeBoost repository...
added again.
This time I have a small refactoring in the
NBExternalStruct/NBExternalStructFields to enable
On 23 January 2013 01:16, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
yes please!
Yes. The only question is where to go:
- on git
- on smalltalkhub
- on ss3
?
On 2013-01-22, at 19:10, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
as all the core packages for pharo (and NB is one of them),
Hi!
Sorry for the late reply.
how Loom compares with the fixes that andreas added to the default profiler.
I am not sure about Andreas' fixes. Loom tells you for each thread running in
the VM the amount of CPU it consumes.
Some screenshots should be self explaining:
2013/1/23 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com
On 23 January 2013 12:58, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Fernando,
I don't want a Form... quitte the opposite! :)
What I want is to have something equivalent to athens to what now is
covered
in morphic with ImageReadWriter.
On 01/23/2013 02:46 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 23 January 2013 01:16, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
yes please!
Yes. The only question is where to go:
- on git
- on smalltalkhub
- on ss3
I would recommend sthub, quick howto for moving:
On 23 January 2013 11:08, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
so yeah, looks like the linux VMs won't run anymore under ubuntu 10
The software upgrade hit us back.
Should we install ubuntu 10 slave to build VMs on it?
you will can find out the last version of GLIBC on your distro by
Hi Mark,
Should have read the man page for open instead of a web page. I had already
tried the second version.
Still crashes though, with the same error, on 10.6.8
(can try it on newer and older versions too, after finding a working version)
Mariano: CogVM-sandard also has the illegal
On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Could you capture for deprecation of OSPlatform osVersion, and resend the
other method (Smalltalk osVersion current osVersion)? Or, trap for
Deprecation and resume it (ignore deprecation - once it is removed, you'll
On 23 January 2013 14:56, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/1/23 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com
On 23 January 2013 12:58, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Fernando,
I don't want a Form... quitte the opposite! :)
What I want is to have something
On 23 January 2013 14:05, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 11:08, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
so yeah, looks like the linux VMs won't run anymore under ubuntu 10
The software upgrade hit us back.
Should we install ubuntu 10 slave to build VMs on it?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nlwrote:
Hi Mark,
Should have read the man page for open instead of a web page.
No problem.
I had already tried the second version.
Still crashes though, with the same error, on 10.6.8
(can try it on newer and older
Hi Ciprian:
On 06 Jan 2013, at 17:22, Ciprian Teodorov wrote:
The project is released under MIT license, and you can find it on the
smalltalkhub site.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~CipT/TalkFFI
I was trying to play with TalkFFI, but it looks like libclang3.1 is not
compiled correctly or
we have it
is just you who cannot :)
On Jan 23, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:
Hi Mark,
Should have read the man page for open instead of a web page.
No problem.
I
On 23 January 2013 15:24, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 14:05, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 11:08, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
so yeah, looks like the linux VMs won't run anymore under ubuntu 10
The software
Hi Stef,
it is great to see that you are using SmallLint to check for errors in
Pharo. I the development process we had in a project I participated, we had
a step where you had to run SmallLint and you could not commit code with
smallLint errors and for some packages with possible errors.
Hi:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 15:28, Stefan Marr wrote:
On 06 Jan 2013, at 17:22, Ciprian Teodorov wrote:
The project is released under MIT license, and you can find it on the
smalltalkhub site.
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~CipT/TalkFFI
I was trying to play with TalkFFI, but it looks like
I found an email about this! it is:
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2005-December/098738.html
The code is on squeak map ... I did not even remember about squeak map :-)
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Hernan Wilkinson
hernan.wilkin...@10pines.com wrote:
Hi Stef,
it
2013/1/23 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com
On 23 January 2013 14:56, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/1/23 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com
On 23 January 2013 12:58, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Fernando,
I don't want a Form... quitte the
On 23 January 2013 15:32, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
we have it
is just you who cannot :)
yeah.. but i would be much more happier to have stable VM compiled by LLVM
compiler, because Apple abandoned GCC ;(
--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.
yes... in short time we need to be able to run llvm compiled vms even in older
(10.5, 6) OSX versions... it cannot be so hard, after all, is just a compiler :)
On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 15:32, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
On 23 January 2013 16:06, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
yes... in short time we need to be able to run llvm compiled vms even in
older (10.5, 6) OSX versions... it cannot be so hard, after all, is just a
compiler :)
hehe.. keep a good spirit and hope :)
--
Best regards,
On 23 January 2013 15:58, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/1/23 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com
On 23 January 2013 14:56, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/1/23 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com
On 23 January 2013 12:58, Esteban Lorenzano
Do we want to act upon this issue? Can I do anything?
Fortunately, the VM from Eliot works fine, so I can use that for the moment.
Cheers,
Doru
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 15:24, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 15:26, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Do we want to act upon this issue? Can I do anything?
Fortunately, the VM from Eliot works fine, so I can use that for the moment.
It does, on 32 bit machines, or 64 bit machines where you can install ia32-libs.
I'm only
Hi,
Maybe this was talked before, and everybody knows what I'm going to say, but I
want to talk about one of the issues we are tackling for 2.0 release: The VM
and its Plugins.
Of course you all know that at least for now (and the next couple of years,
he), we use Eliot's Cog for running
On 23 January 2013 16:40, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this was talked before, and everybody knows what I'm going to say, but
I want to talk about one of the issues we are tackling for 2.0 release: The
VM and its Plugins.
Of course you all know that at least for
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Stefan Marr smallt...@stefan-marr.dewrote:
Hi:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 15:28, Stefan Marr wrote:
On 06 Jan 2013, at 17:22, Ciprian Teodorov wrote:
The project is released under MIT license, and you can find it on the
smalltalkhub site.
On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 16:40, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this was talked before, and everybody knows what I'm going to say, but
I want to talk about one of the issues we are tackling for 2.0
Hi Mariano:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 16:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Maybe the lib needs to be 32 bits? can you check if the lib you are trying is
compiled for 32 or 64?
Yes, it needs to be 32bit, but that's not the problem:
smarr@minerva ~/tmp/libgit/libgit2$ file
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 03:08:57PM +0100, Marcus Denker wrote:
On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Could you capture for deprecation of OSPlatform osVersion, and resend the
other method (Smalltalk osVersion current osVersion)? Or, trap for
On 23 Jan 2013, at 17:03, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 16:40, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this was talked before, and everybody knows what I'm going to
and is already there... I just forgot to mention it :P
he, I was writing by memory... I probably miss a lot of the work we did last
year ;)
On Jan 23, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 17:03, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
On
20484
-
Issue 7307: RGMethodDefinition string representation different from
CompiledMethod
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7307
Issue 7306: un-deprecate OSPlatform osVersion for compatibility
EstebanLM wrote
Pharo 2.0 will be released with a stable, branded vm with a bunch of
useful plugins and libraries (like freetype) and out-of-the-box support
for NativeBoost.
...
For Pharo 3.0 we are even more ambitious: we want to start replacing some
important parts of the vm with plugins
Denis Kudriashov wrote
I upload new version of TxText with new TxTextMorph
Denis, thank you for taking this on! This is /so/ important. There are many
times in my experiments with reinventing the tools when I've gotten confused
and frustrated by the way text / editors work and chosen to revert
On 23 January 2013 17:27, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
EstebanLM wrote
Pharo 2.0 will be released with a stable, branded vm with a bunch of
useful plugins and libraries (like freetype) and out-of-the-box support
for NativeBoost.
...
For Pharo 3.0 we are even more ambitious:
Igor Stasenko wrote
Also, is the Pharo branded VM on the static file server based on Jit Cog
(as
opposed to stack, etc)?
which server?
http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/vm/pharo/
--
View this message in context:
http://forum.world.st/about-the-VM-and-Pharo-tp4664887p4664909.html
Sent from
On 23 January 2013 18:07, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
Igor Stasenko wrote
Also, is the Pharo branded VM on the static file server based on Jit Cog
(as
opposed to stack, etc)?
which server?
http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci/vm/pharo/
yes, this is JIT Cog VMs
branded for
You don't know the power of the dark side...
At least, I think there is one known uncompatibility which is ready to be solved
http://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=93
Nicolas
2013/1/23 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com:
On 23 January 2013 16:06, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 January 2013 17:27, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
EstebanLM wrote
Pharo 2.0 will be released with a stable, branded vm with a bunch of
useful plugins and libraries (like freetype) and
I don't. Do you have link?
Here is the paper: http://www.vpri.org/pdf/m2010002_lobjects.pdf
And you can download the image with the actual active essay from
http://tinlizzie.org/lesserphic2/Text%20Field%20for%20LObject.zip
esteban
***THANKS*** for this mail.
Could you consolidate a version (including igor feedback) and post it as a blog
post on the pharo web site?
This is for this kind of work that we need a stronger consortium.
Stef
On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
Maybe this was
On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Thanks for tackling this urgent and complicated topic!
+ 1000
Stef
I would recommend sthub, quick howto for moving:
sthub!
Let us deprecate SS for now and after we think about git. We cannot break too
many eggs at the same time.
http://goran.krampe.se/2013/01/07/moving-to-smalltalkhub
regards, Göran
On Jan 23, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
Sorry for the late reply.
how Loom compares with the fixes that andreas added to the default profiler.
I am not sure about Andreas' fixes.
this is why it would be nice that you know because you should be the profiler
expert :)
We want that everybody runs smallLint on their code :)
I downloaded your code and I will have a look. I should published my changes
but I want to fix first the PharoTaskForces
repo problem.
We are going there and it will be a massive attack :)
Hi:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 18:51, Ciprian Teodorov wrote:
The libs should be 32 bits... but it seems it is not this the issue...
I have compiled clang+llvm from sources using the source distribution at:
http://www.llvm.org/releases/
then I have built the whole llvm distribution (using the
Do you have a case that we can reproduce and so we fix it?
One of the problems I fixed yesterday was that the RecentChangeList did not get
notification anymore.
Stef
On Jan 23, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Stefan Marr wrote:
Hi:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 22:06, Stefan Marr wrote:
I get a change browser
On 23 Jan 2013, at 23:06, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Do you have a case that we can reproduce and so we fix it?
One of the problems I fixed yesterday was that the RecentChangeList did not
get notification anymore.
The following example shows two problems with the current PickListModel:
|
Hi Ciprian:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 22:06, Stefan Marr wrote:
Well, if I add all the headers manually to the generation, I run into the
trouble of the non-existing classes again.
After working around the order issue, I am still running into more issues.
Some of the classes for which methods are
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Stefan Marr smallt...@stefan-marr.dewrote:
Hi:
On 23 Jan 2013, at 18:51, Ciprian Teodorov wrote:
The libs should be 32 bits... but it seems it is not this the issue...
I have compiled clang+llvm from sources using the source distribution
at:
Hi,
It seems that the http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoTaskForces repository is
broken.
When I try to connect to it via Monticello, I get a SubscriptOutOfBounds:
0. The problem seems to be that the repository somehow has a file called
'.mcz' (which is obviously wrong):
Tudor Girba-2 wrote
Or how to fix this?
The immediate problem can be fixed by deleting the version on sqs, no?
Requires admin access i.e. Stéphane Ducasse, Alexandre Bergel, Marcus
Denker, Alain Plantec
--
View this message in context:
Indeed, I thought of that, too. But, the problem is that the web interface only
shows one single package versions, probably because after the restart the
index in the image was not updated.
In any case, my original question was why do we have a .mcz file at all? But,
I will look into the fix
Anyone know why this happened?
Just a guess: the lates package from 2013-01-22 17:26:46 was named
Manifest-CriticBrowser-SimonAllier.41.mcz.mcz
with two .mcz endings. Maybe this is problematic...
Bye
T.
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