[Pharo-project] the fun theory

2013-04-17 Thread Torsten Bergmann
I read about this game today. It is written in Lua and one can play the game by editing Lua scripts (in an external editor) to optimize trains for transportation: http://trainsportedgame.no-ip.org/index.php http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFKZd8nEQyA This game combines learning and playing and is

Re: [Pharo-project] Update error

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:47 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Starting with 30039, and updating from the world menu... "Error: Could not > load OpalCompiler-Core-ClementBera.178.mcz: ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 404 Not > Found" > Somehow the .mcz files where not copied to the main repository. This worked fi

Re: [Pharo-project] Versionner in 2.0 again

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:16 AM, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > Christophe Demarey wrote >> I was wondering if it is possible to downgrade an already installed >> package in a configuration. > > For now, why don't we just declare a dependency to the correct version of > the toolbox? I'm uploading a co

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
add a bug entry and tag it so that we simply do not forget. Stef On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Johan Brichau-2 wrote >> fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController... >> NECController-Changes.cs (5K) >>

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
I should say that I LOVVVE the comments in the method. Yes Yes Yes. Stef > > Yes, just the AST with Semantic Analysis information (Scope and Semantic > Variables), plus > bytecodelevel IR that provides the bridge to the low-level pc (bytecode > mapping) data… > > e.g. to get the highl

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-17 Thread S Krish
+1 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > +1 > > Doru > > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:25 AM, "Sean P. DeNigris" > wrote: > > > Johan Brichau-2 wrote > >> fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController... > >> NECController-Changes.cs (5K) > >> < > http://forum.world.st/attachm

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-17 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:25 AM, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > Johan Brichau-2 wrote >> fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController... >> NECController-Changes.cs (5K) >> ; > > I think at minimum Johan's change sh

Re: [Pharo-project] About sqnappy and LZ4

2013-04-17 Thread Masashi UMEZAWA
Hi, Actually, I have never noticed that you have LZ4 bindings already. It is indeed a great news! I would never have started sqnappy if I knew the fact. As you say, the project has a similar goal. Anyway, it is good to have another option. Some Sqnappy characteristics: - it has a minimum depende

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-17 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Johan Brichau-2 wrote > fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController... > NECController-Changes.cs (5K) > ; I think at minimum Johan's change should be integrated immediately and backported to 2.0. I simply can not use ent

Re: [Pharo-project] Versionner in 2.0 again

2013-04-17 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Christophe Demarey wrote > I was wondering if it is possible to downgrade an already installed > package in a configuration. For now, why don't we just declare a dependency to the correct version of the toolbox? I'm uploading a config to Nabble which does this and seems to work... ConfigurationOf

[Pharo-project] Update error

2013-04-17 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Starting with 30039, and updating from the world menu... "Error: Could not load OpalCompiler-Core-ClementBera.178.mcz: ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 404 Not Found" - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Update-error-tp4682228.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing li

Re: [Pharo-project] [FWD] Options for Visualization

2013-04-17 Thread Serge Stinckwich
I was also interested to have a DOT parser. Regards, On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Camille Teruel wrote: > Hi Damir, > > Have a look at Roassal and Mondrian. > If you need to parse DOT syntax you can write a parser with PetitParser > quickly. > > On 17 avr. 2013, at 14:30, Damir Majer wrote

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Xtreams's FileDirectory dependence

2013-04-17 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Stéphane Ducasse wrote > We are really interested by Xtreams for replacing Pharo Streams. > Now we should evaluate again Xtreams. IIRC at ESUG the version on squeaksource is not up to date with the VW version, which is why we were working on handling namespace/prefix mapping in filetree/cypress..

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:44 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> I really really like this :) >> >> very simple yet powerful! > > Yes this will massively simplify the debugger :) > So we will be able to get a debugger really working without n

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > I really really like this :) > > very simple yet powerful! Yes this will massively simplify the debugger :) So we will be able to get a debugger really working without needing an magician to fix its bugs. Stef

[Pharo-project] About sqnappy and LZ4

2013-04-17 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi, I was checking https://github.com/mumez/sqnappy. Some time ago I wrote bindings for LZ4: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~marianopeck/LZ4 Do you know which are the differences? It looks both are intended for the same purpose: speed in decompression/compression over compression ratio. From what I

Re: [Pharo-project] [FWD] Options for Visualization

2013-04-17 Thread Camille Teruel
Hi Damir, Have a look at Roassal and Mondrian. If you need to parse DOT syntax you can write a parser with PetitParser quickly. On 17 avr. 2013, at 14:30, Damir Majer wrote: > Hi, > > I´m searching for Options to visualize diagrams, for example an > class-diagram. > Is there an graphViz-Implem

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread Camillo Bruni
I really really like this :) very simple yet powerful! On 2013-04-17, at 21:28, Clément Bera wrote: > Yeah this is really cool. Especially now BlockClosure and optimized > BlockClosure (to:do:, ifTrue:ifFalse:, ifNil:ifNotNil:, and:, or:) have the > same behavior for debugger byte code to source

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Xtreams's FileDirectory dependence

2013-04-17 Thread Frank Shearar
On 17 April 2013 20:14, Colin Putney wrote: > On 2013-04-17, at 7:57 AM, Frank Shearar wrote: > >> Xtreams depends on FileDirectory in at least three places, all in the >> Xtreams-Terminals package. (Three messages on FileUrl, #appending, >> #reading, #writing; two tests in XTFileReadingWritingTe

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Xtreams's FileDirectory dependence

2013-04-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
We are really interested by Xtreams for replacing Pharo Streams. Now we should evaluate again Xtreams. So any action that make them easier to load is welcome. On Apr 17, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: > Xtreams depends on FileDirectory in at least three places, all in the > Xtreams-Termi

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread Clément Bera
Yeah this is really cool. Especially now BlockClosure and optimized BlockClosure (to:do:, ifTrue:ifFalse:, ifNil:ifNotNil:, and:, or:) have the same behavior for debugger byte code to source code mapping, for decompilation, ... 2013/4/17 Marcus Denker > Hi, > > We implemented this today: > > #s

Re: [Pharo-project] SPy VM

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > yes, I almost worked on it :P > I was in PhD writing mode… I visited them some times the sprint room, though ;-) Marcus > http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1482373.1482382&coll=DL&dl=GUIDE&CFID=205981062&CFTOKEN=26442857 > > On 2013

Re: [Pharo-project] Jira plugin for Monticello

2013-04-17 Thread Camillo Bruni
I don't think that exists... On 2013-04-17, at 20:11, Max Leske wrote: > Hi guys > > Has anyone ever heard / used a Jira plugin for Monticello commits? Who would > be interested in such a plugin? > > Cheers, > Max

Re: [Pharo-project] SPy VM

2013-04-17 Thread Camillo Bruni
yes, I almost worked on it :P http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1482373.1482382&coll=DL&dl=GUIDE&CFID=205981062&CFTOKEN=26442857 On 2013-04-17, at 18:05, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Did you know that there is smalltalk vm in PyPy? > https://bitbucket.org/pypy/lang-smalltalk

[Pharo-project] Jira plugin for Monticello

2013-04-17 Thread Max Leske
Hi guys Has anyone ever heard / used a Jira plugin for Monticello commits? Who would be interested in such a plugin? Cheers, Max

Re: [Pharo-project] [Sprint] Sprint Lille May 3rd

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
we will do one for the next one. Now we need to kill bugs like mad. On Apr 17, 2013, at 5:02 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Why not make a doodle for this? > > > 2013/4/17 Benjamin > cool :) > > Ben > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> Marcus Denker-4 wrote >>> We

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20599

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 17 Apr 2013, at 13:06, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> 20599 >> - >> >> 10297 Integrate 2.0: 10295 Zinc Update April 16th >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10297 > > Hey Marcus, that is even cooler. I know it is a lot of

Re: [Pharo-project] the fun theory

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
excellent! Yes we should make pharo a fun theory :) Stef On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: > When I saw this website, I immediately thought about Pharo > > http://www.thefuntheory.com > "This site is dedicated to the thought that something as simple as fun is the > easiest way

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] FTP repo without storing username/pass in ConfigurationOf

2013-04-17 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote: > Mariano, > > repositorOverrides: does apply to the entire load sequence, so it's not > the best option for trying to simply keep your credentials private ... > > OK. > The http repository does not expose user names and works just fine pick

Re: [Pharo-project] [FWD] Options for Visualization

2013-04-17 Thread Damir Majer
Hi Damien, Thanks for the Info, Cheers, Damir Damien Cassou wrote > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Damir Majer < > damir@ > > wrote: >> I´m searching for Options to visualize diagrams, for example an >> class-diagram. > > you may want to ask on the Moose-dev < > moose-dev@.unibe > > mail

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
btw... as someone pointed here, I need to clarify something I said: I didn't mentioned Eliot because I was talking about the plugins... When we talk about the VM itself, the number of people who are capable of work on it reduces from 10 to maybe 5 (Eliot and some others like Igor... but certain

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
you're right... I will cut&paste and write something extra next days :) On Apr 17, 2013, at 4:25 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Very interesting email, worth a post somewhere. > > > 2013/4/17 Esteban Lorenzano > Hi, > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:23 AM, kilon wrote: > > > Anyway, my only objec

Re: [Pharo-project] Xtreams's FileDirectory dependence

2013-04-17 Thread Nicolas Cellier
+1 for using a brand new and much cleaner FileSystem But you must let some time to lazy developpers, so FIleSystemLegacy should be used in some ConfigurationOf in the interim. 2013/4/17 Camillo Bruni > > On 2013-04-17, at 17:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > > > On 17 Apr 2013, at 17:09,

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems with Association page

2013-04-17 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yeah, I fixed... I changed my website and forget to update the association. how shameful :S ;) On Apr 17, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:52 PM, dimitris chloupis wrote: > >> I visited the association page ( http://association.pharo.org/web ) and >> found so

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems with Association page

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:52 PM, dimitris chloupis wrote: > I visited the association page ( http://association.pharo.org/web ) and found > some dead links you may be interested into fixing > > I am talking about the automatic scrolling bar at the top. > 1) The VM for Pharo in OSX and iOS by Este

Re: [Pharo-project] SPy VM

2013-04-17 Thread kilon
I did know that, cause I try to follow PyPy development . I did not know it was still actively developed. I thought it was abandoned, glad I am proven wrong. Pitty It cant use cpython libraries. But who knows, maybe one day. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SPy-VM-tp468

[Pharo-project] SPy VM

2013-04-17 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Did you know that there is smalltalk vm in PyPy? https://bitbucket.org/pypy/lang-smalltalk

[Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, We implemented this today: #sourceNode for MethodContext. It returns the AST node of context, as part of the whole AST of the method. thisContext sourceNode Returns: DoIt ^ thisContext sourceNode [ thisContext sourceNode ] value ==> RBBlockNode([ thisC

Re: [Pharo-project] Xtreams's FileDirectory dependence

2013-04-17 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-04-17, at 17:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 17 Apr 2013, at 17:09, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> FileSystemLegacy is your friend: >> >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/FileSystemLegacy > > Yes, that is one possibility. > > But we want a clean loading Xtreams using File

Re: [Pharo-project] Xtreams's FileDirectory dependence

2013-04-17 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 17 Apr 2013, at 17:09, Camillo Bruni wrote: > FileSystemLegacy is your friend: > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/FileSystemLegacy Yes, that is one possibility. But we want a clean loading Xtreams using FileSystem directly, do we not ? > On 2013-04-17, at 16:57, Frank Shearar wr

Re: [Pharo-project] Xtreams's FileDirectory dependence

2013-04-17 Thread Camillo Bruni
FileSystemLegacy is your friend: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/FileSystemLegacy On 2013-04-17, at 16:57, Frank Shearar wrote: > Xtreams depends on FileDirectory in at least three places, all in the > Xtreams-Terminals package. (Three messages on FileUrl, #appending, > #reading, #writ

Re: [Pharo-project] [Sprint] Sprint Lille May 3rd

2013-04-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Why not make a doodle for this? 2013/4/17 Benjamin > cool :) > > Ben > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Sean P. DeNigris > wrote: > > Marcus Denker-4 wrote > > We are planning a sprint the 3rd of May: > > > I want to join again via IRC/skype from NYC. It worked out well last > time... > > > > --

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiger athens with objc bridge demo

2013-04-17 Thread Benjamin
Cool :) Ben On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Max Leske wrote: > Cool! Especially the popup window :) > > On 17.04.2013, at 15:49, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_bfSz2tus0 >> >> Enjoy, >> Esteban >> >> ps: small... and this time I do not speak. So is a win-win :)

Re: [Pharo-project] [Sprint] Sprint Lille May 3rd

2013-04-17 Thread Benjamin
cool :) Ben On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Marcus Denker-4 wrote >> We are planning a sprint the 3rd of May: > > I want to join again via IRC/skype from NYC. It worked out well last time... > > > > - > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http:/

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiger athens with objc bridge demo

2013-04-17 Thread kilon
I would prefer it long and with you speaking, but I guess you cant please everyone Great job and thanks for making this bridge. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Tiger-athens-with-objc-bridge-demo-tp4682126p4682135.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at

[Pharo-project] Xtreams's FileDirectory dependence

2013-04-17 Thread Frank Shearar
Xtreams depends on FileDirectory in at least three places, all in the Xtreams-Terminals package. (Three messages on FileUrl, #appending, #reading, #writing; two tests in XTFileReadingWritingTest >> #setUp and #tearDown) Pharo 2.0 has no FileDirectory. So it seems like the easiest (not necessarily

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
True, you have a point. 2013/4/17 Igor Stasenko > On 17 April 2013 13:34, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > Of course we can still understand with an all in image style (leveraging > > ObjCBridge and NB). > > > > But it will be hard to study how things are occuring internally when > leaving > > th

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Very interesting email, worth a post somewhere. 2013/4/17 Esteban Lorenzano > Hi, > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:23 AM, kilon wrote: > > > Anyway, my only objection is the fact that we will have twice the code to > > maintain and more to worry about. > > let me explain this little thing a bit... >

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiger athens with objc bridge demo

2013-04-17 Thread Max Leske
Cool! Especially the popup window :) On 17.04.2013, at 15:49, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_bfSz2tus0 > > Enjoy, > Esteban > > ps: small... and this time I do not speak. So is a win-win :) >

[Pharo-project] Tiger athens with objc bridge demo

2013-04-17 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_bfSz2tus0 Enjoy, Esteban ps: small... and this time I do not speak. So is a win-win :)

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread kilon
Esteban I was replying to PhillipeBeck post, I think that is what he meant, to move things to smalltalk side instead of relying to external libraries. Unless I misunderstood his post . -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Fwd-do-you-know-what-is-this-tp4681962p4682118.html

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:35 PM, kilon wrote: > > Porting everything to smalltalk is not a realistic or a very useful > scenario. Whos is going to port Cocoa to Morphic > come on lets see some hands raising :D The idea never was to move everything. In fact is just the opposite. Morphic is, from a

[Pharo-project] Problems with Association page

2013-04-17 Thread dimitris chloupis
I visited the association page ( http://association.pharo.org/web ) and found some dead links you may be interested into fixing I am talking about the automatic scrolling bar at the top. 1) The VM for Pharo in OSX and iOS by Esteban Lorenzano http://smallworks.com.ar/products/vm (dead) correc

Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

2013-04-17 Thread kilon
Thank you Marcus, good to know its not only me. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-browse-a-selected-method-in-code-viewer-tp4681866p4682114.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] [FWD] Options for Visualization

2013-04-17 Thread Damien Cassou
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Damir Majer wrote: > I´m searching for Options to visualize diagrams, for example an > class-diagram. you may want to ask on the Moose-dev mailing list as well. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failu

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread kilon
Can NB also disassamble code called ? I know that gdb can do this, and since NB generates assembly code for the FFI calls I was wondering if it can disassemble them too. Assembly is definetly not as pretty as smalltalk but can be useful none the less to look at internals. Porting everything to

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub account and user email

2013-04-17 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi Tommaso, On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Tommaso Dal Sasso wrote: > I am Tommaso Dal Sasso and I just started my PhD in Lugano with Michele > Lanza. I will focus on the automatization and improvement of the bug > reporting process. welcome. There are plenty of stuff to do in this area and

[Pharo-project] [FWD] Options for Visualization

2013-04-17 Thread Damir Majer
Hi, I´m searching for Options to visualize diagrams, for example an class-diagram. Is there an graphViz-Implementation in Pharo or better other Options to display Diagrams? (here is the graphViz-Dot-Example: graph ethane { Car -- tire1 [type=s]; Car -- tire2 [type=s]; Car -- tire3

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Igor Stasenko wrote > Well, you always have a choice to write everything from scratch :) These are not mutually exclusive. What we're doing now by harnessing external libraries is prototyping - we're on the first step of "make it work, make it right, make it fast" ( and maybe getting sone #3 for f

Re: [Pharo-project] [Sprint] Sprint Lille May 3rd

2013-04-17 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote > We are planning a sprint the 3rd of May: I want to join again via IRC/skype from NYC. It worked out well last time... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Sprint-Sprint-Lille-May-3rd-tp4682097p4682106.html Sent from the Pharo Smallta

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 17 April 2013 13:34, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Of course we can still understand with an all in image style (leveraging > ObjCBridge and NB). > > But it will be hard to study how things are occuring internally when leaving > the image. e.g. using components from the OSX Frameworks for things

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Of course we can still understand with an all in image style (leveraging ObjCBridge and NB). But it will be hard to study how things are occuring internally when leaving the image. e.g. using components from the OSX Frameworks for things like text editors may be powerful but ultimately, this will

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20599

2013-04-17 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 17 Apr 2013, at 13:06, Marcus Denker wrote: > 20599 > - > > 10297 Integrate 2.0: 10295 Zinc Update April 16th > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10297 Hey Marcus, that is even cooler. I know it is a lot of manual manipulation work, so thanks again. If I can make this process ea

Re: [Pharo-project] [Sprint] Sprint Lille May 3rd

2013-04-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I'll try to get there then :-) 2013/4/17 Marcus Denker > Hi, > > We are planning a sprint the 3rd of May: > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/blog/2013-04-17 > > When? Friday May 3 > Where? Inria Lille Building B, RMoD Offices > > If you want to join, please send a mail so we can pl

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Igor Stasenko
Well said, Esteban, well said. This is a same idea and message which i wanted to deliver doing my NativeBoost presentation at 2012's Smalltalks conference in Puerto Madryn. So, we are pretty well aligned with our vision :) On 17 April 2013 12:53, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > On Apr 17, 2013

[Pharo-project] [Sprint] Sprint Lille May 3rd

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, We are planning a sprint the 3rd of May: http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/blog/2013-04-17 When? Friday May 3 Where? Inria Lille Building B, RMoD Offices If you want to join, please send a mail so we can plan and open the door for you. Marcus

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20599

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
20599 - 10297 Integrate 2.0: 10295 Zinc Update April 16th https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10297

[Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub account and user email

2013-04-17 Thread Tommaso Dal Sasso
Hello to everyone, I am Tommaso Dal Sasso and I just started my PhD in Lugano with Michele Lanza. I will focus on the automatization and improvement of the bug reporting process. I registered yesterday to SmalltalkHub, and I noticed that the users emails are publicly shown in the user details p

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 17 April 2013 12:19, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi Phil, > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "p...@highoctane.be" > wrote: > > Regarding this, of the key points of Pharo is that most of the system is > able to be looked at from a lot of angles in source code form. > > > I do not understand this..

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:23 AM, kilon wrote: > Anyway, my only objection is the fact that we will have twice the code to > maintain and more to worry about. let me explain this little thing a bit... Do you think that code doesn't need to be maintained and taken care how it is right now?

Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:51 AM, kilon wrote: > Is it a bug ? If I select a class and do alt+b it works , if I select the > entire message it does not . For example Yes, there is a bug report there already since Apr 9, 2012: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/5628/More-permissive-navigation-Short

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi Phil, On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "p...@highoctane.be" wrote: > Regarding this, of the key points of Pharo is that most of the system is able > to be looked at from a lot of angles in source code form. I do not understand this... why do you think that now you can do that and with an all-i

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 17 April 2013 08:34, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > This is just the cairo library rendering in a quartz format. No native > quartz access yet, so... > > 1) yes... is 100% compatible with Cairo (because it is Cairo :) > 2) no GPU, no OpenGL, just optimized rendering (one of this days I will

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 17 April 2013 11:23, kilon wrote: > Estaban correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK MACOS GUI is based on opengl and > it is hardware accelerated. I hear the same applied for Linux GUIs too in > large. > Not at all. It is same story as with Athens: - GUI uses Cocoa framework. Sure you can use OpenG

Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

2013-04-17 Thread kilon
Is it a bug ? If I select a class and do alt+b it works , if I select the entire message it does not . For example In Athens-Cairo-Paints packages AthensCairoPatternPaint>>intialize in line NBExternalResourceManager addResource: self data: handle. if I select "NBExternalResourceManager" alt+b

Re: [Pharo-project] DateAndTime bug: we should do something about it

2013-04-17 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 16 April 2013 11:32, Henrik Johansen wrote: > > > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > >> On 15 April 2013 16:43, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >>> On 15 April 201

Re: [Pharo-project] Not all projects on bugs.pharo.org

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > I don't see the "Ubuntu packaging (ppa:cassou/pharo)" fogbugz project > on bugs.pharo.org > Yes, this seems to be not updated.. I added a bug report a while ago: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10157/http-bugs-pharo-org-is-not-in

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread kilon
Estaban correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK MACOS GUI is based on opengl and it is hardware accelerated. I hear the same applied for Linux GUIs too in large. Anyway, my only objection is the fact that we will have twice the code to maintain and more to worry about. As I said I am on macos , I am a

[Pharo-project] Not all projects on bugs.pharo.org

2013-04-17 Thread Damien Cassou
I don't see the "Ubuntu packaging (ppa:cassou/pharo)" fogbugz project on bugs.pharo.org -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello configuration conventions

2013-04-17 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-04-17, at 02:50, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > Camillo Bruni-3 wrote >> I liked ruby-gems approach more than the one in Metacello. You usually >> specify >> a major version (as under linux) for your dependency. > > It seems they're using semantic versioning, which is *awesome*, but can we

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

2013-04-17 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-04-17, at 10:48, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Serge Stinckwich > wrote: > >> The server is still down apparently. > > No, what we use here is a URL forward that is provided by the DNS hosting > company. > > This used to work, but the last week it started

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30044

2013-04-17 Thread Camillo Bruni
nice! On 2013-04-17, at 10:54, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > On 17 Apr 2013, at 10:45, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> 30044 >> - >> >> 10295 Zinc Update April 16th >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10295 >> > > Thanks. > > Sven >

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

2013-04-17 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Yes behind a CDN could be really nice, especially in Vietnam where the connexion are not really good. No stress, I can do my course without having zeroconf script. Thank you Marcus for your work. Regards, On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Ser

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30044

2013-04-17 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 17 Apr 2013, at 10:45, Marcus Denker wrote: > 30044 > - > > 10295 Zinc Update April 16th > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10295 > Thanks. Sven

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Serge Stinckwich > wrote: > >> The server is still down apparently. > > No, what we use here is a URL forward that is provided by the DNS hosting > company. > > This used to work, but the last week it sta

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > The server is still down apparently. No, what we use here is a URL forward that is provided by the DNS hosting company. This used to work, but the last week it started to fail very very often. We are in the process of moving the files

[Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30044

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
30044 - 10295 Zinc Update April 16th https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10295

Re: [Pharo-project] Monitor is DOWN: get.pharo.org (http://get.pharo.org)

2013-04-17 Thread Serge Stinckwich
The server is still down apparently. I would like to use the zeroconf script for a course in Ha Noi next week. Regards, On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: "Uptime Robot" >>

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2.0 and Zinc - big thanks!

2013-04-17 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 17.04.2013 um 03:09 schrieb Igor Stasenko : > > i wonder why people so obsessed with web? > it is ugly, and dead before born.. > > Why ugly? The dead beforn born part remembers me of a programming language we all love. Why resurrect? :) Hmm, maybe because there is potential. Uhh, the same

Re: [Pharo-project] Phobos on retina display

2013-04-17 Thread Serge Stinckwich
I also tested it. Nice work ! On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I checked and it looks beautiful. > > Great work. > > Doru > > On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Thanks for working on this. >> >> I will check it until tomorrow. >> >> Cheers, >> Dor

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:27 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Regarding this, of the key points of Pharo is that most of the system is able > to be looked at from a lot of angles in source code form. > > Removing that ability is not going to be nice. > > But what do you actually get from a graphi

Re: [Pharo-project] do you know what is this?

2013-04-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Regarding this, of the key points of Pharo is that most of the system is able to be looked at from a lot of angles in source code form. Removing that ability is not going to be nice. But this doesn't mean we can't go the other way around of course, allowing it to embrace new technical possibiliti

Re: [Pharo-project] Phobos on retina display

2013-04-17 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Great, thank you for the confirmation. -- Pavel On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I checked and it looks beautiful. > > Great work. > > Doru > > On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > > Thanks for working on this. > > > > I will check it until tomorrow