Re: [Pharo-project] Concurrency-Oriented Programming in Pharo

2011-08-23 Thread Adrian Lienhard
For me, SmalltalkImage current vmStatisticsReportString ...works best. If you run this twice, the second time it prints the diff compared to the previous run. So if you print the following three lines SmalltalkImage current vmStatisticsReportString. self runSomeCode.

Re: [Pharo-project] Some bugs

2011-08-23 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Yes, the issues Andrea reported are all from 1.2.2. That's the version we are currently using besides 1.1.2. Unfortunately, its not an option for us to move to new versions of Pharo too frequently. New Pharo versions can have unforeseen effects in production and hence can cause a lot of work

Re: [Pharo-project] Some bugs

2011-08-23 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Mike, Thanks for the initiative and the update on this issue! I hope other people have insights or can lend a helping hand... Adrian On Aug 23, 2011, at 14:25 , Michael Roberts wrote: I think for the debugger, we all live with the bugs. I mean, we (I) unfortunately made the situation worse

Re: [Pharo-project] On the way to 1.3 Release: images

2011-08-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks, Marcus! On Aug 9, 2011, at 08:41 , Marcus Denker wrote: [...] Next steps: [...] - change the links on pharo-project to point to these images for http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/stable

Re: [Pharo-project] On the way to 1.3 Release: images

2011-08-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Aug 9, 2011, at 10:48 , Marcus Denker wrote: Thanks! - change the link http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/unstable(-core) to point to the one jenkins build of 1.4 I changed /unstable-core to point to

Re: [Pharo-project] On the way to 1.3 Release: images

2011-08-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Sure. I'll mail the Photoshop file to you privately. Adrian On Aug 9, 2011, at 13:12 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: adrian do you have the banner file formats so that we store them on svn? Stef On Aug 9, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Thanks, Marcus! On Aug 9, 2011, at 08

Re: [Pharo-project] who is in charge of the web pages?

2011-07-30 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Great! In autumn, I'm going to be away (traveling, and hence I'm probably not online very often). It's good to know that somebody is taking care of the website. Laurent, I've added privileges to your account so you have access to all content and features and you can also add/remove user

Re: [Pharo-project] Silly Tweet

2011-06-30 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:15 , Marcus Denker wrote: On Jun 30, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Fernando Olivero wrote: Why do people still use an older image? Even as older as Pharo1.1 and 1.2. It doesn't take much to update to Pharo1.3 or Pharo1.4, and its totally worth the nuisance of updating a

Re: [Pharo-project] Please test Pharo 1.3!

2011-06-28 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Nice to see 1.3 coming forward! I don't have thorough test results from real experience using 1.3, but just some remarks from randomly testing the tools for 20 or so minutes: - Script Manager is broken: adding a script produces an error - Transcript: I do Transcript show: 'hello' but nothing

Re: [Pharo-project] Merge tool. No way to cherry pick the changes?

2011-06-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I'm missing that too. In previous versions, IIRC, there was a menu item for changed methods named Install. Adrian On Jun 21, 2011, at 14:37 , Igor Stasenko wrote: I don't understand, when i merging, the merge tool showing me all the difference between current version and incoming one. It

Re: [Pharo-project] support for flattening-out traits for export?

2011-06-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
IIRC this can be achieved with two small changes: - Comment out the line method isLocalSelector from PackageInfomethods. This will flatten the traits into the classes, i.e., make all methods of a class being stored even if they come from a trait. - In addition you probably need to change

Re: [Pharo-project] excellent job: netstylers :)

2011-06-01 Thread Adrian Lienhard
thanks :) On May 31, 2011, at 14:39 , Esteban Lorenzano wrote: yeah... really cool :) El 31/05/2011, a las 2:36a.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió: http://www.cmsbox.com/en/showcase/our-websites Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I like it :) Adrian On May 24, 2011, at 22:25 , laurent laffont wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Ok we need a 1.3 version because now we get excited. Here's a first shot (not integrated to TaskBarMorph though) which works in

Re: [Pharo-project] Memory profiling

2011-04-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Alex, I assume that your test run always creates the same number objects with the same size. Given that, there doesn't appear to be any reason why the amount of allocated memory for the given run should vary. So its rather the way you measure that makes the difference. I don't know how you

Re: [Pharo-project] About (nil@nil)

2011-04-23 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Apr 21, 2011, at 19:32 , Igor Stasenko wrote: On 21 April 2011 18:42, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: of course it is there newArray at: 34 put: Point new. now could not we have a well initialized point? What is the purpose of this one? probably there

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Are you a Pharo contributor ??? [WAS] Re: Pharo Open Source Smalltalk — Contributors

2011-04-14 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I think the most important thing is to make all pictures the same width and height. Then I wouldn't do a table, but rather add filters. For instance, this would allow the visitor to filter for people by country and possibly other properties (like university, industry, ...). Another improvement

Re: [Pharo-project] FAQ migration

2011-04-11 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Apr 10, 2011, at 13:16 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Thanks Max, I am reading it now :) For those who doesn't know the link: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/FAQ/ Hm, this page is pretty empty... Adrian BTW, there's another FAQ, which I had written over some time:

Re: [Pharo-project] Download choices :) or :(?

2011-04-11 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Apr 11, 2011, at 04:43 , Serge Stinckwich wrote: There should be i guess just one download page. On the first page, there is some downloads links in the three columns. If you look at the python language website, there is only one download page, the same for Ruby. Yep! Adrian take care

Re: [Pharo-project] fonts on Pharo website

2011-04-11 Thread Adrian Lienhard
hehe, I wondered how long it takes to notice the new fonts ;) We can revert to the old font if the web font is not an improvement... Geert also noted that the font we embedded does not look the same on all browsers/platforms. Cheers, Adrian On Apr 11, 2011, at 13:47 , laurent laffont wrote:

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo Release 1.2.1

2011-04-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
The Pharo Project is proud to announce the release of Pharo 1.2.1, the third major release of this clean, innovative, open-source Smalltalk environment. Static URL for this ANN: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-2-1 French translation:

Re: [Pharo-project] Draft Pharo 1.2.1 Release Announcement

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Apr 5, 2011, at 22:27 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: As far as I see there's one thing missing on the website: the download sticker for the one click image (top right on the page) still points to 1.1.1. I'll try to change the sticker and link tomorrow morning. The new sticker is online. I've

Re: [Pharo-project] Draft Pharo 1.2.1 Release Announcement

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks for checking, Mariano. I fixed it. Adrian On Apr 6, 2011, at 10:09 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: I think this part is wrong (see screenshot) On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 22:27 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: As far

Re: [Pharo-project] Links section for url shortcuts in the Pharo website

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Mariano They are right there, on the front page. I recently moved them up so they even show without scrolling. Cheers, Adrian On Apr 6, 2011, at 15:03 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi Adrian. Lots of times I found myself trying to remember the Pharo url shortcuts. I mean all of these:

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo 1.2.1. Setup for Win32 (including CogVM)

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks Torsten, I updated the download page. Adrian On Apr 6, 2011, at 15:39 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: Hi, now that Pharo 1.2.1. is available on the website I've also updated the Win32 Setup. You can grab it here:

Re: [Pharo-project] Draft Pharo 1.2.1 Release Announcement

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I guess, the question is, *who* is sending the ANN mail?! It's not breaking news anymore, but we should still send one ;) Shall I do it? Adrian On Apr 6, 2011, at 15:47 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: But when are we going to send this mail to this mailing list? and pharo-users? etc...

Re: [Pharo-project] SmalltalkHub going beta in a week

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Wow, looks great! I think it's a good idea to *not* automatically migrate projects from SqueakSource ;). It's an opportunity to get rid of a lot of cruft that has accumulated on SqueakSource during the last years... Cheers, Adrian On Apr 6, 2011, at 13:07 , Tudor Girba wrote: Phenomenal

Re: [Pharo-project] Delay bug

2011-04-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
We managed to resolve our initial problem with the process scheduling [1]. All Cmsbox customers have been migrated to Pharo and it works very reliably now. Gary, maybe you could open a ticket already now and post what you know at this time to get early feedback. [1]

Re: [Pharo-project] ci.pharo-project.org redirect should be changed?

2011-04-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I changed it. Adrian On Apr 5, 2011, at 07:01 , laurent laffont wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi... currently ci.pharo-project.org redirects to https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Pharo/ but I think it should be

Re: [Pharo-project] Draft Pharo 1.2.1 Release Announcement

2011-04-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks, Sven That's a great summary! Adrian On Apr 4, 2011, at 23:01 , Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: I have a draft for a release announcement for Pharo 1.2.1 http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Pharo/pharo-1.2.1-release.html [ THIS IS A DRAFT !! - DO NOT YET RELEASE ] Please check this

Re: [Pharo-project] Draft Pharo 1.2.1 Release Announcement

2011-04-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks, Sven! I've put the page online - as a blog entry on the news page: http://www.pharo-project.org/news - the release page: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-2-1 (I've slightly edited some of the bullet point items to fit on one line) Thanks Laurent for the translation.

Re: [Pharo-project] Draft Pharo 1.2.1 Release Announcement

2011-04-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
ok, I fixed the text. Adrian On Apr 5, 2011, at 22:38 , Marcus Denker wrote: Therefore, this is not correct: Pharo 1.2.1 One-Click is the easiest to get started: it includes all needed components (image, change and source file as well as a fast, compatible Cog VM) in one package that

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we get 1.2 on the pharo web site?

2011-03-29 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Sure! I can help with updating the website. Is the list of changes [1] still work in progress or should I add as is? It would be nice to have it structured (I can do this) and a bit more detailed if possible. The site for the 1.1 release had a quite verbose summary [2]. Do we have the Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharogenesis anew

2011-03-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Wow, very cool! Just for others to realize what this is... Let's assume you want to see the change history of HTTPSocket classhttpGetDocument:args:accept:request:. With blame you can see for each line who changed it and when:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Actions done in Pharo 1.2

2011-03-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Also, if we know about non-backwards compatible changes that require adaptations when migrating from Pharo 1.1 to 1.2, that would be really helpful to support people in the process of upgrading to 1.2. Cheers, Adrian On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:10 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Mar 13, 2011, at

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you want to add the background picture to the image like we did with Pharo 1.1 ?

2011-03-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Mar 13, 2011, at 18:40 , Tudor Girba wrote: I vote against using a picture as a background. +1 Adrian

Re: [Pharo-project] what's happened to the blogger group?

2011-03-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:09 , Geert Claes wrote: Francois has posted another nice weekly summary on his blog at http://articles.tulipemoutarde.be For visibility I thought Dmitri and Farncois were to be given access to the Pharo website so they can post on the Pharo news/blg area too? Yes.

Re: [Pharo-project] about morphicSoundEventtcbkss0

2011-03-04 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I can't figure out what these methods have been used for exactly (probably for some conversion, there are more such methods with weird names like layoutMorphbosfcepcbbochvimol0). They have no senders, and they have been in the image since at least 1998 (I checked in a 3.2 image). I don't think

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

2011-03-02 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Mar 2, 2011, at 20:33 , Luc Fabresse wrote: - Adrian, Jorge and Toon worked on implementing a Debugger on top of Glamour. They got a first version working that is able to do basic actions: step, restart, step into. The challenge was to get to understand the model, and to figure out that

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Feb 21, 2011, at 17:22 , Camillo Bruni wrote: how about a file based system and git? yea, just discussed this very idea an hour ago... The simplest thing that could work: - Write out changes to files (for each method and class) - Use git to commit, push, pull, merge, etc. - After git

Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource down... again

2011-02-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
address them. On 21 February 2011 17:39, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: On Feb 21, 2011, at 17:22 , Camillo Bruni wrote: how about a file based system and git? yea, just discussed this very idea an hour ago... The simplest thing that could work: - Write out changes to files

Re: [Pharo-project] ci.pharo-project.org down

2011-02-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Fixed. Thanks for reporting. Adrian On Feb 21, 2011, at 20:08 , laurent laffont wrote: There some aliens it seems http://ci.pharo-project.org Laurent

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for Pharo Support **important**

2011-02-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
BTW, the call is also online at http://pharo-project.org/community/consortium Adrian On Feb 15, 2011, at 14:02 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Please distribute this message around Dear Pharoers We are pursuing an effort to bring Pharo to the next level: we will set up a consortium of

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] 5 - PseudoFileStream

2011-02-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Feb 8, 2011, at 21:35 , laurent laffont wrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: looks like something who ends at some eToys stuff... :( I fear we are going to fail today... 20 hours left ;) Is MCConfigurationBrowser used actually ?

Re: [Pharo-project] thinking about a community model of funding

2011-02-04 Thread Adrian Lienhard
*g* I was always annoyed by this Wikipedia banner as it just used up almost half of my browser window. And I don't think I need to be on such a banner either. Cheers, Adrian On Feb 4, 2011, at 13:46 , Igor Stasenko wrote: On 4 February 2011 13:43, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo fondation: administration and real people

2011-02-03 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Sean and Dmitri, Thanks for offering your help. Indeed, it would be cool if we could set up a small team of two or three people who would help building the community through regular blogging, twittering, improving the website, etc. Cheers, Adrian On Feb 3, 2011, at 21:45 , Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] Tracing bugs/corrections/regressions ... in Pharo

2011-02-01 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Feb 1, 2011, at 08:57 , Nicolas Cellier wrote: I understand that logging diffs of the entire squeaksource repository is a no go, but there must be another way. You have automated tests which is a real progress, so I don't see why simple diffs would be so high a technical problem. I (and

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo domains for CI, book, issues, and wiki

2011-01-31 Thread Adrian Lienhard
For convenience, we have set up the following domains: http://issues.pharo-project.org http://ci.pharo-project.org http://book.pharo-project.org http://wiki.pharo-project.org Cheers, Adrian __ www.adrian-lienhard.ch twitter.com/adrianlienhard

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo.st should be a permanent domain, I think

2011-01-31 Thread Adrian Lienhard
-1 ...because in my opinion there should be exactly one main domain name. The additional names should just redirect to this one. Of course we could discuss whether pharo.st should be that main domain. But (already quite long time ago) we decided to go for pharo-project.org. I still think that

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo.st should be a permanent domain, I think

2011-01-31 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Esteban, ...because in my opinion there should be exactly one main domain name. The additional names should just redirect to this one. why? For instance to make sure that there are not the same pages listed in search engine results with different domain names. Then, (according to SEO

Re: [Pharo-project] Easy access on pharo-project.org

2011-01-30 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:09 , Marcus Denker wrote: On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Implemented as redirects this is possible. Making the build server available under, say, ci.pharo-project.org should also be possible (without a redirect) since we have access

Re: [Pharo-project] Easy access on pharo-project.org

2011-01-26 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Implemented as redirects this is possible. Making the build server available under, say, ci.pharo-project.org should also be possible (without a redirect) since we have access to the server (I assume). With Google project this is obviously not possible. The question is where to implement the

Re: [Pharo-project] why does monticello updates accessing web when i save on dir?

2011-01-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Does it access the web when you store to your local repo or when you copy to SqueakSource? Was that different with Squeak? If there's some unnecessary activity I would be interested to know about ;) Cheers, Adrian On Jan 25, 2011, at 14:44 , HwaJong Oh wrote: Saving packages in my local

Re: [Pharo-project] debugger problems?

2011-01-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 25, 2011, at 14:05 , Tudor Girba wrote: I am not alone! :) Anyone else noticed this? yes Is it http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=709 ? Adrian

Re: [Pharo-project] why does monticello updates accessing web when i save on dir?

2011-01-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Do you mean #checkForNewerVersions with the message 'CAUTION! These versions in the repository may be newer:'? At least in PharoCore 1.1.1 this method doesn't have a sender. Adrian On Jan 25, 2011, at 15:49 , Igor Stasenko wrote: At some point it tries to refresh all know repositories..

Re: [Pharo-project] Reminder: change the archiving tool

2011-01-21 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 21, 2011, at 15:23 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: All .zip files with pharo images having an annoying Apple-ism - a .DS_Store garbage file. Please use a zip archiver which includes only relevant files to archive, because obviously this garbage has no use anywhere but Macs. Last time I

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo issues on Google

2011-01-17 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Works for me... Adrian On Jan 17, 2011, at 12:20 , Gary Chambers wrote: IFor that url I get: GoogleError Server Error The server encountered an error and could not complete your request. If the problem persists, please report your problem and mention this error message and

Re: [Pharo-project] Is there a http server that understands PUT?

2011-01-17 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Norbert, I suggest to have a look at Zink: http://homepage.mac.com/svc/Zinc-HTTP-Components/index.html Cheers, Adrian On Jan 17, 2011, at 21:22 , Norbert Hartl wrote: While trying to consume some PUT urls with Seaside-REST I noticed that the transmitted content is missing. I tried

Re: [Pharo-project] DateAndTime millisecond is always 0

2011-01-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 15, 2011, at 09:21 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: Sorry, I meen DateAndTime now millisecond and DateAndTime now nanoSecond. As I write in last mail. I found cuis fix of this in Pharo issues where? Denis sent a link to the

Re: [Pharo-project] we will start 1.3 really soon

2011-01-15 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Cool :) BTW, I have a question related to 1.2 from a user's perspective: could we generate a summary to help people migrate from 1.1.1 to 1.2? In particular, the question is which changes in 1.2 are not backwards compatible and may break my code? I've been a bit out of the loop during the last

Re: [Pharo-project] DateAndTime millisecond is always 0

2011-01-14 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Denis, There's no method milliseconds (at least in my Pharo 1.1.1 image). Can you be more specific? I assume you want to get the milli seconds of a timestamp, rather than the millisecond clock (DateAndTime millisecondClockValue). When you create a new timestamp (TimeStamp now) the

Re: [Pharo-project] ZeroMQ, Mongrel2...

2011-01-11 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Yes, I'm interested Adrian On Jan 11, 2011, at 17:24 , Geoffroy Couprie wrote: Hello, What would you think of a ZeroMQ frontend to Pharo? I was playing with ZeroMQ, and more specifically the Mongrel2 web server, and I thought that would be cool to use it, but the only reference of ZeroMQ

Re: [Pharo-project] next irc meeting: Thursday 13 at 21h

2011-01-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I can't be online at 21 (1 hour later would probably work). But don't worry about me :) Adrian On Jan 7, 2011, at 09:11 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi guys Let us know if this is ok and that we broadcast it. the channel is #pharo-project on irc.freenode.net. If you don't have an IRC

Re: [Pharo-project] Including Zinc HTTP Components in Pharo 1.2 Dev ?

2011-01-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Sven, +1 for Pharo 1.2 (the dev image) -1 for patching HTTPSocket (dev packages should not modify core code) For 1.3 we should think about integrating Zinc in PharoCore to replace HTTPSocket. Cheers, Adrian On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:05 , Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Hi, Maybe I am a bit

Re: [Pharo-project] About preloaded packages

2011-01-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:15 , Johan Brichau wrote: On 07 Jan 2011, at 09:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I would really like that pharo-dev does not contain too many libraries pre loaded (for example XMLSupport). I would favor push metacello so that in one click people can load what they

Re: [Pharo-project] Including Zinc HTTP Components in Pharo 1.2 Dev ?

2011-01-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 7, 2011, at 20:10 , Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 07 Jan 2011, at 13:58, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I was just reading the code with olivier auverlot. I would love to have a small if possible replacement to the HTTPSocket. There really is a lot of cleanup to do. The key/core

Re: [Pharo-project] Origins [poll]

2011-01-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 6, 2011, at 00:37 , csra...@bol.com.br wrote: Miguel, You rather create a wiki page (or edit the one Stef intends to put our pictures in a near future ;-) BTW, we already have a page with pictures: http://pharo-project.org/community/contributors. Certainly there are people

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3507 in pharo: SUnitUnloader unloadTestPackages is wrong and outdated

2011-01-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Mariano, Nice to see you working on this (sorry, I still didn't get around to do the cleanUp: refactoring (if you like to do this, please go ahead)). Regarding your extension of #unloadTestPackages I have the following remark: when I implemented this I took care to make all remaining

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3507 in pharo: SUnitUnloader unloadTestPackages is wrong and outdated

2011-01-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Torsten, Sorry, you are right. I apparently checked this in an 1.1.1 image (and I forgot that you have refactored Regex). Splitting the package up into -Core -Help and -Tests is a good solution indeed. So the change of #unloadTestPackages proposed by Mariano makes perfect sense. Cheers,

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3507 in pharo: SUnitUnloader unloadTestPackages is wrong and outdated

2011-01-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 6, 2011, at 17:54 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Thanks for the remark anyway Adrian. Now, after evaluating the unloads, I open a Monticello Browser and I don't see any package as dirty. However, this is not really confident. Sometimes Monticello shows a package not direty, but just

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Minimal pharo

2011-01-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
* image (not my starting image) is as small as possible. Cheers, Esteban El 05/01/2011, a las 4:58a.m., Adrian Lienhard escribió: On Jan 4, 2011, at 22:42 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: ps: I wonder if any of those scripts should be added to ScriptLoader Yes, that would be good

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Minimal pharo

2011-01-04 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Jan 4, 2011, at 22:42 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: ps: I wonder if any of those scripts should be added to ScriptLoader Yes, that would be good! Like this we can improve them and other people can contribute. Esteban, could you share your experience with unloading packages? I assume you

[Pharo-project] IRC meeting next Tuesday, January 4, at ...?

2011-01-02 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi all, During the last meeting [1] we decided to do the next one on January 4 but we didn't decide when to start. The previous meeting started at 20:00 CET/UTC/GMT+1, which may not be optimal for people in other time zones. If somebody likes to suggest another time, please let us know soon!

Re: [Pharo-project] An intuitive (or screwed) #copyFrom:

2011-01-01 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Yes, this method name is unfortunate... I think we should just rename the method and tag copyFrom: as deprecated. And some versions later we'll implement copyFrom: as we think is appropriate. Cheers, Adrian BTW Sebastian, I think your energy would be better invested into producing a changeset

Re: [Pharo-project] running osprocess

2010-12-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Alex, One source of problems is that, as you are on a Mac, you have an outdated plugin (it is from April 1, 2007). It would be nice if the Mac VM shipped with an up to date plugin... You may also find the recent status report of Dave Lewis, which he posted to this list on December 1,

Re: [Pharo-project] running osprocess

2010-12-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Esteban, On Dec 20, 2010, at 22:49 , Esteban Lorenzano wrote: El 20/12/2010, a las 5:59p.m., Adrian Lienhard escribió: Hi Alex, One source of problems is that, as you are on a Mac, you have an outdated plugin (it is from April 1, 2007). It would be nice if the Mac VM shipped

Re: [Pharo-project] a way to ignore warnings?

2010-12-20 Thread Adrian Lienhard
BlockClosure#valueSupplyingAnswer: and friends are also useful. Cheers, Adrian On Dec 21, 2010, at 06:27 , Hernán Morales Durand wrote: 2010/12/20 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: duh... [ ... ] on: Warning do: [ :w | w resume ]. forget my question... :( That wouldn't make it for

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

2010-12-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Dec 9, 2010, at 16:25 , Martin Dias wrote: Hi all, Thank you for the discussion, is very interesting for me. Thanks Adrian, I don't have benchmarks with ImageSegment, so I like to see the numbers, how could I reproduce that benchmarks? it would be useful for me. This is the

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

2010-12-10 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Even if Fuel can be 10x faster, it doesn't really make a difference IMHO. It would be interesting to thoroughly profile MC to figure where it spends all its time (with large projects it gets very very slow, like several minutes to just show the merge diffs between two branches). I guess

Re: [Pharo-project] Hudson and version number

2010-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
That's how I did it: Install the Hudson description setter plugin [1] From Pharo, when you do the build and know the last build number, log this version to stdout (e.g., [version] 1.2 #12421). In the job config enable Set build description and add the following settings: - Set build

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

2010-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Martin, I took some application for which we use image segments to test Fuel - With Fuel serializing and writing to disk took 330s. File size is 16.1MB - With image segments saving takes 4s and the file size is 2.4MB - When loading, I got a low space warning because the primitive

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

2010-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Dec 8, 2010, at 22:33 , Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Well, I doubt if speed is really important, since you're loading everything at most once. And the current tools are really fast IMHO. The following numbers are from Squeak: [ Compiler

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel - a fast object deployment tool

2010-12-08 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Dec 8, 2010, at 22:49 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: Hi Martin, I took some application for which we use image segments to test Fuel - With Fuel serializing and writing to disk took 330s. File size is 16.1MB

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Vm-dev] Image freeze because handleTimerEvent and Seaside process gone?!

2010-12-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
and you can use the simulator to look at it more closely. Most likely you'll be able to find the processes and look at their stacks. Cheers, - Andreas On 12/6/2010 2:55 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi all, We've been experiencing an interesting problem: the image freezes and does

Re: [Pharo-project] 'stash' a Smalltalk shell or what happens when you let your mind wander in the shower....

2010-12-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I like it :) Adrian On Dec 7, 2010, at 19:30 , Dale Henrichs wrote: I was thinking about a number of things in the shower this morning and then it occurred to me that it would be interesting to create a shell environment INSIDE a Smalltalk vm. It wouldn't be a complete environment, but

[Pharo-project] IRC meeting notes

2010-12-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
This evening the announced IRC meeting took place. I've published the notes as a blog post on our website: http://pharo-project.org/news?article=irc-meeting-notes Cheers, Adrian ___ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

[Pharo-project] Image freeze because handleTimerEvent and Seaside process gone?!

2010-12-06 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi all, We've been experiencing an interesting problem: the image freezes and does not response to HTTP requests anymore after it has been running for days. Here some basic information about our setup: Squeak VM 4.0.3-2202 compiled with gcc 4.3.2 PharoCore 1.1 OS Debian Lenny amd64 (CPUs are

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo list of ongoing or soon starting projects needing some help

2010-12-05 Thread Adrian Lienhard
One item on the list that is missing, in my opinion, is a Package management system. With Metacello we have the underlying infrastructure but what we lack is a process, the supporting tools, and building of a community around contributing and managing external packages. Today it's hard to find

Re: [Pharo-project] Dollars to documentation

2010-12-04 Thread Adrian Lienhard
A similar idea was discussed a year ago, but it never took off: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfMonthlyDonators Adrian On Dec 4, 2010, at 13:54 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: yes we should do the same! Stef Interesting action from the rails project:

Re: [Pharo-project] IRC monthly meeting + project description

2010-12-03 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I think that's a great idea! Cheers Adrian BTW, for those who don't know the new time zone Paris time: this is UTC/GMT +1 (until end of March) ;) On Dec 3, 2010, at 16:57 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi guys I imagine that a lot of you are missing a vision or the path of actions in Pharo.

[Pharo-project] [OT] Re: IRC monthly meeting + project description

2010-12-03 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Dec 3, 2010, at 19:23 , Henrik Johansen wrote: Also known as CET, all the time ;) only half of the year... there's also CEST sorry, this is getting OT Adrian Cheers, Henry Den 3. des. 2010 kl. 17:15 skrev Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch: I think that's a great idea! Cheers

Re: [Pharo-project] How to update Pharo

2010-11-29 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Tony, Thanks for noting. The direct URL to the latest unstable PharoCore version is http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download/unstable-core I've updated the wiki page. Adrian On Nov 29, 2010, at 20:29 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: tony you should take the latest unstable image (1.2)

Re: [Pharo-project] Cannot assign a parameter

2010-11-28 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Its an artificial restriction. Method arguments are just like temps, i.e., the interpreter does not distinguish between the two; its only the compiler that restricts assignments to arguments (I'm not 100% sure, but I assume that this still holds with Eliot's new closure compiler). I think it

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Hudson] 'Pharo' activated

2010-11-27 Thread Adrian Lienhard
What's the status of Hudson? I can help configuring and maintaining it if needed. I was looking at the tests in in the latest PharoCore and what would be very helpful is to know since which update a test is failing to be able to relate the failure to a specific change. It would also allow us

Re: [Pharo-project] How to build a multipart MIME email message

2010-11-27 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Have you looked at MailMessage? It supports multi-part mails. Cheers, Adrian On Nov 27, 2010, at 16:15 , Tony Fleig wrote: Okay, a follow on question then: Are the MIME-related classes present in Pharo/Seaside intended to allow one to build a MIME document or only to read/parse one? I

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] New macintosh vm builder maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

2010-11-22 Thread Adrian Lienhard
me too :) Adrian On Nov 22, 2010, at 12:05 , Hernan Wilkinson wrote: I joined Lukas thanks... although I was not in that dinner!!! :-) On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you John for the excellent Mac VMs in the past. Thank you Esteban for

Re: [Pharo-project] Not happy with the issues feed from Google

2010-11-19 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On Nov 18, 2010, at 22:58 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Thanks for sharing that with us. We will create a separated mailing-list to see how it works. We can try but I don't think it will work particularly well. Our infrastructure should best support the people that actively work on Pharo so I

Re: [Pharo-project] Not happy with the issues feed from Google

2010-11-18 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Yes, please keep it! (And mails with code diffs would be great too...) Adrian On Nov 18, 2010, at 18:33 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: +1 Sorry guys this is not optimal but after been against when I see it in squeak, I'm in favor because it helps understanding what is happening. Sorry

Re: [Pharo-project] Monthly Pharo IRC or Chat meeting

2010-11-14 Thread Adrian Lienhard
+1 On Nov 13, 2010, at 23:23 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi guys I would really like that we get a monthly IRC or Chat discussions to discuss a bit the directions, efforts. What do you think about it? What do you think is a good set up? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Repackaging task force

2010-11-13 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi Torsten, Nice to see that we also improve at this front again! The goals make sense. When I recategorized all the tests that were mixed with the code to the global Tests package, I followed your first goal (separate tests and code). The main objective was to be able to make tests unloadable

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoKernel #12229

2010-11-07 Thread Adrian Lienhard
On OSX with a recent VM (4.2.5beta1U) the image, PharoKernel-Core-1.2-12229.image, starts but without displaying window. The native menu is populated, but apart from this nothing happens... Adrian On Nov 6, 2010, at 23:11 , Pavel Krivanek wrote: Hi, I uploaded an updated version of

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