MikeR wrote
So I'm trying to create a stick figure in Pharo.
So far I have this
man := Morph new.
head := CircleMorph new color: Color black .
body := LineMorph new.
man addMorph: head.
man addMorph: body.
man openInWindow.
it will give you a circle and a line in a window, but
I sometimes take for granted how extraordinary our community is. This
morning, it sunk in a bit how magical it truly is... I brought up two issues
I was having (not even bugs)... in the middle of the night... on a
Saturday... And like the Smalltalk fairy had come and snuck a solution under
my
mmimica wrote
How about a 2.0 backport?
As much as you all know I love backporting, in this case it's probably not a
good place to apply resources. The changes are deep and it's been broken for
years.
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If you put a breakpoint in ScrollPane#scrollByKeyboard:, and then type a
key into a DropListMorph, the breakpoint will hit unless you were holding
down ctrl or cmd. Since the purpose of the method is to check event
controlKeyPressed or:[event commandKeyPressed], this obviously is no bueno.
| reader |
FileStream fileNamed: fileName do: [ :file |
skip headers
file
nextLine;
nextLine;
nextLine.
reader := NeoCSVReader on: file.
reader
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
30086
...
10425 DateAndTime refactoring
Hooray, I love progress on DateAndTime... this one was rally ugly!
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
10492 Sharing mc repositories between all packages
Cool! That always bothered me...
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Damien Cassou wrote
Everyone can now have its own private instance of SmalltalkHub.
So, if you need a feature in SmalltalkHub, you can now implement it
yourself! Please do :-)
Awesome!!! Thanks :)
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Mariano Martinez Peck wrote
What about adding RFB at startup list and implement #startUp doing
UIManager default: MorphicUIManager new. ?
But you don't necessarily always want it to be headful, do you? If you have
a headless server image, then use RFB to debug, then it seems you would want
to
Thanks for all the effort :) keep up the great work!
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
When? Friday May 3
What time are you all starting? I will be on IRC and Skype from NYC as usual
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This is kind of a small thing, but it definitely effects readability... Each
issue update shows up as a whole different conversation, while when we used
google, they were properly organized. Any idea how (if possible) to fix it?
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Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
and also upvote here!
...
upvote here:
Done, and done. Thanks.
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EstebanLM wrote
we cannot make a process to discover the hidden configurations all over
the web, to then validate them and copy to the appropriate repo.
Why not?! ;-P It wouldn't be the most outrageous and amazing thing we've
ever done...
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Denis Kudriashov wrote
My main idea is make clean and extendible text editor. So anybody can
understand how layout built, where text insertion happens, how it
processed, how cursor works and etc. I want text editor which is not
required hacks to simple tasks like allow only numbers, hide
stephane ducasse wrote
We should really ask nicolas to check why the diff is broken
I mentioned a few times that it seems that it fails when none of the package
version's ancestors are present on stub. e.g. from
http://forum.world.st/update-3-0-30024-td4680178.html,
Sure, point the way. Where does Penelope live? gforge? How do you debug/update
the running version?
On Apr 26, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 [via Smalltalk]
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Penelope code as well as Ulysse one is on smalltalkhub/~Pharo/ci/main
stephane ducasse wrote
marcus do you know why the diff does not work with SmalltalkHub?
It works sometimes. It seems that it works when the ancestors are present
and produces a confusing error message when they are not...
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Denis Kudriashov wrote
You can load configuration from
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sig/TxText.
For the recreationally-inclined, like myself ;)
Gofer it
url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sig/TxText';
package: 'ConfigurationOfTxText';
load.
((Smalltalk at:
OMG, TxTextMorph can grow horizontally. You're my new best friend :)
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Sean P. DeNigris wrote
You're my new best friend :)
The cursor is an actual Morph (TxCursorMorph) instead of magic conjured up
my Paragraph!!! All my other friends are fired, they've never given me a
present this nice :)
Also, please add me to the repo. I have a small fix (TxCursorMorph should
Nicolas Cellier wrote
Note: I don't know what is the policy with the labels/states of these bug
tracker, and it rather bothers me, but the SLICE is ready for
tests/reviews.
I was a bit confused at first too. You have to click Resolved and then you
get a whole other set of states, including fix
Reposted to The general-purpose Squeak developers list
squeak-...@lists.squeakfoundation.org, scona-l...@scona.us,
amber-l...@googlegroups.com, c...@jvuletich.org,
beginn...@lists.squeakfoundation.org beginn...@lists.squeakfoundation.org,
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Torsten Bergmann wrote
Esteban wrote:
also, I noticed there is no ConfigurationOfSandstoneDB...
There already is one in MetacellRepository, just look at the comments
below the video:
It seems to work well when the ConfigufationOfXyz is kept with the project
and then copied to wherever else
Igor Stasenko wrote
And it is:
A tentative to rewrite a new text editor for Pharo
What is its relationship if any to TxText?
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Does update the monkey refer to Penelope?
I was going to ask whether we can start using the Penelope issue urls e.g.
in the [update 3.0] posts, but then I checked the Penelope pages for the
#30059 issues and:
http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/10367
http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/10389
were two
Dale Henrichs wrote
When Cami refers to automatic dependencies he's referring to the fact
that with ruby-gems one can specify a range of versions that will satisfy
the dependencies for your project instead of a single version as is done
with Metacello today.
Yes, I want this and IIRC we've
Metacello supports both, but not at the same time. Either you mark your
configuration with fixed versions (best for patches) or with symbolic
versions (best for releases).
I don't understand this. If you don't want your dependencies upgraded, you
don't change the versions referenced in your
Ben Coman wrote
An idea for more general recovery options
Using the Pharo command-line processing, have some recovery commands
that execute and quit before any UI processing is started. For example...
* list/close open windows
* list/close running processes
* list/revert recent method
stephane ducasse wrote
add a bug entry and tag it so that we simply do not forget.
From https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10228/Fix-tab-key-for-autocompletion
:
Fix in inbox:
SLICE-Issue-10228-Fix-tab-key-for-autocompletion-SeanDeNigris.1
Accept-on-tab if there are no common
Dale Henrichs wrote
The Metacello Preview will support semantic versioning system!
Cool! Thanks Dale :)
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I tweaked the code because in my most common case, I don't care that it's
e.g. aByteString, but only that it's aString:
(argument isKindOf: String) ifTrue: [ ^ 'aString' ].
(argument isKindOf: Collection) ifTrue: [ ^ 'aCollection' ].
(argument isKindOf: Integer) ifTrue: [
Frank Shearar-3 wrote
Belatedly, a comment: I usually turn numeric things into aNumber. You
particularly want to hint at the separate treatment of Integer and
friends from ScaledDecimal, Fraction, Float?
Particularly with Integers, I find that it matters more often than not e.g.
for indices,
Igor Stasenko wrote
Indeed... To the hell these case statements. It should be one-liner:
^ argument class canonicalArgumentName
+1 I was thinking the same thing... it started as a one-line hack for
ByteString and... well, you know ;)
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You could add Boolean as well, to avoid creating a name like 'aTrue'.
Ooh, good idea! Okay, there's obviously enough interest. I'll get on it...
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10314/Debugger-create-better-argument-names
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
We are planning a sprint the 3rd of May:
I want to join again via IRC/skype from NYC. It worked out well last time...
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Igor Stasenko wrote
Well, you always have a choice to write everything from scratch :)
These are not mutually exclusive. What we're doing now by harnessing
external libraries is prototyping - we're on the first step of make it
work, make it right, make it fast ( and maybe getting sone #3 for
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
We are really interested by Xtreams for replacing Pharo Streams.
Now we should evaluate again Xtreams.
IIRC at ESUG the version on squeaksource is not up to date with the VW
version, which is why we were working on handling namespace/prefix mapping
in filetree/cypress...
Starting with 30039, and updating from the world menu... Error: Could not
load OpalCompiler-Core-ClementBera.178.mcz: ZnHttpUnsuccessful: 404 Not
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Christophe Demarey wrote
I was wondering if it is possible to downgrade an already installed
package in a configuration.
For now, why don't we just declare a dependency to the correct version of
the toolbox? I'm uploading a config to Nabble which does this and seems to
work...
Johan Brichau-2 wrote
fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController...
NECController-Changes.cs (5K)
lt;http://forum.world.st/attachment/4679910/0/NECController-Changes.csgt;
I think at minimum Johan's change should be integrated immediately and
backported to 2.0. I simply can not use
Christophe Demarey wrote
As a general purpose reflexion on dependencies conventions, I would say:
If you are in development mode, it makes sense to rely on latest versions
of dependencies (bleeding edge) to be able to detect integration problems
as soon as possible.
If you are in a release
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
I liked ruby-gems approach more than the one in Metacello. You usually
specify
a major version (as under linux) for your dependency.
It seems they're using semantic versioning, which is *awesome*, but can we
depend on the convention being followed? I've been pushing to
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
the little fact that it is incremental - it updates and saves the same
image based on 1 metacello configuration - is really a stroke of genius.
It saves an enormous amount of time as in the past I always did a complete
build from scratch. Updating servers is now
Stephan Eggermont wrote
FileSystem-Git
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qld2mDIbg4
Thank you Stephan! Will these be eventually matched up to the screencast (I
thought I read that somewhere), or is this the final product ( which is
already great :) )?
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
- Opal integration
- AST interpreter integration
Exciting!
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EstebanLM wrote
- fix 2.0 release (so Sean and everybody is happy :)
:)
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EstebanLM wrote
- fix 2.0 release (so Sean and everybody is happy :)
Dynabooks make me happy. And anything we can do to make things easy, clear
and enjoyable for new users - our critical mass --- Dynabook :)
I fell in love with Squeak because it was the closest thing to Dynabook
software I'd
Damien Pollet wrote
- continue updating coral, cleaning up configurations etc
Yay! I was wondering... would you give us a quick status report?
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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
The test.image contains all your project specific code, and loading the
config just checks all dependencies and only loads what has changed,
incrementally. It only takes some 10s of seconds.
It never occurred to me that this was the way to go, but the config
I want to extract SelectPackageBrowser as a general PackagePicker widget.
It's part of the CriticsBrowser setup wizard, in which there is no wizard
object, but rather each page deletes itself and opens the next one in the
world. Could Merlin be helpful here?
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stephane ducasse wrote
So we should extract it :)
10294 Extract SelectPackageBrowser as a widget
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stephane ducasse wrote
What you need :
1/ Load (don't merge) Metacello-ToolBox-dkh.130 from
http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello in your Pharo2 image.
2/ Load ConfigurationOfVersionner from
http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Versionner
3/ ConfigurationOfVersionner load
So is this the best way
I just ported a project from 20531 to 20597... not too far in calendar time,
but a world of difference in usability :)
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Tristan Bourgois-2 wrote
Does exist the possibility to open a window out of my pharo environment?
How about Phobos (https://code.google.com/p/phobos-framework/)?
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Damien Cassou wrote
- the pharo-vm package can now be installed on 64bits systems
- the pharo-vm package can now be installed on older Ubuntu releases
Hooray! Great work :) Will this package continue to track the latest or
stable vm version, or is at locked at the current version?
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
As requested I have configured a user on fugbugz that is subscribed to
every issue automatically
and will get mail:
http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-bugtracker
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Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
To be precise, you actually have invalid code, but
you are on the way to make it valid.
There was a similar thread on the Squeak list a while back about graying out
subsequent code when making a change in the middle of some code. e.g. If I
have a method with 7 lines (of
I updated the welcome page [2] to make access options more prominent/clear. I
also opened Issue 10262
Permalink to Penelope registration page [1] to cut out a step in the
process. Hopefully this will ease the confusion and prevent future mailing
list questions :)
[1]
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
I think that we should really change the following behavior...
I opened an issue:
10264 Syntax Highlighting: Less red during editing
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10264/Syntax-Highlighting-Less-red-during-editing
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Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
I don't agree because Wiki pages are never maintained. The best is to
generate the bindings descriptions automatically
+1
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
which we do: there is a menu on the top right of Nautilus:
Nautilus is only one piece of the puzzle. What about the rest of
n.b. this conversation is half on the issue tracker and half on the mailing
list
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
10212 New Spec version
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10212
From the issue: mainly fixing properly the needRebuild mechanism. What was
the problem/solution? The diffs do not work because most of the ancestors
are not on sthub (guessing)
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Esteban A. Maringolo wrote
I have other comments regarding first use experiences of
smalltalkers and non-smalltalkers.
Once I contribute something, I'll make them public. :-)
Please don't wait... all feedback is valuable and welcome...
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EstebanLM wrote
And every time they make the same question why is not like in [put your
favorite IDE here]?... still today, I do not have an answer, that's why I
think is better not to provoke the question :)
I believe that they only asked that because we didn't have it, so no one
realized
j-wings wrote
I am creating some package dependencies test and therefore, I need to find
the relationship of each classes.
My plan is that I will use 'allCallsOn' method which is called by a Class
Object.
For example:
SpotLight allCallsOn
ClassObj
allCallsOn
However, the input
j-wings wrote
How can I convert the string 'SpotLight' into SpotLight object?
Smalltalk at: 'Spotlight' asSymbol
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Janko Mivšek wrote
For now we really need to get a good pool of mentors
I am available. What is the rough time commitment for mentoring?
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On Apr 8, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Igor Stasenko [via Smalltalk]
ml-node+s1294792n4680333...@n4.nabble.com wrote:
Sean, you reading mailing list from web-forum?
Yes I usually view through Nabble and fwd these when I see them
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The old list got a mail for every change done on the tracker…
We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it
might be a bit
too much.
Well since it's a special mailing list dedicated solely to the issue
tracker, why would it be too much? For me,
Johan Brichau-2 wrote
fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController to:
- accept both
enter
and
tab
for code completion
- still use
tab
to first complete the common prefixes, but a subsequent
tab
will select the suggestion
Maybe people should give this a try and see?
Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote
Since any one can subscribe precisely to want they want, for me it's
useless to have a spamming mailing list :)
It's very useful to me because I turn off all mail delivery for the issue
tracker list and view it through nabble. This way, my inbox is not flooded,
and
Does anyone have a copy?
http://www.inf.usi.ch/phd/robbes/papers/ASE2008-completion.pdf gives a
403...
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Sean P. DeNigris wrote
Johan Brichau-2 wrote
fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController to:
- accept both
enter
and
tab
for code completion
- still use
tab
to first complete the common prefixes, but a subsequent
tab
will select the suggestion
Maybe people should
stephane ducasse wrote
would it be possible to get a couple of settings that you use?
NECPreferences
enabled: true;
caseSensitive: true;
expandPrefixes: true;
useEnterToAccept: false;
smartCharacters: true;
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
I would like to apologize for the rather unfriendly and loud mail I sent
in
response to a bugfix proposal by Igor on the mailing list.
I believe in acting decisively and error correcting quickly. Thank you for
both the passion you bring and for getting us back on track :)
Tudor Girba-2 wrote
http://users.dcc.uchile.cl/~rrobbes/p/JASE-completion.pdf
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stephane ducasse wrote
I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that
I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail.
Yes! It'd also be great if the integration update emails linked to the
monkey mirror instead of fogbugz, so we could get
Igor Stasenko wrote
you are in the Pharo team:
...
so you should be able to commit into any project which under this team
umbrella.
Please try again, and if you fail, i will copy the file manually.
My bad, my login script had a bug. The file is uploaded :)
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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
What is the difference between NECController and NOCController ?
In my image the latter seems to be the default, Sean is using the former.
Why ?
I'm using NOCController. The class I referenced is NECPreferences, which
seems to control the settings no matter which
Goubier Thierry wrote
I'm one of the guys which change his personal settings on any new 2.0
image... To turn auto completion off.
There has been a *lot* of work on completion as 2.0 has evolved. There are
also many settings. If you're turning it totally off, but use it in other
systems, please
Stephan Eggermont wrote
and Igor refined that to:
i agree, a completion should be non-intrusive (by default it should
handle enter as carriage return,
but if you selected an item (using up/down keys), then it should paste
the selection instead).
But as i said, i having a habit to use enter,
EstebanLM wrote
Oh, Spotlight is another victim of the code completion lack of accurate
answers...
and yes, I agree: both code completion and spotlight in consequence were
working better in 1.4.
With enter-on-accept disabled, I'm really enjoying the completion in 2.0. I
find partial
Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote
I am really waiting for the videos to be available to be able to watch
them to get what I missed :) (and spread this to the whole team ^^)
+1. Huge thank you to everyone who is contributing to the videos. This is a
huge benefit to our global community :)
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Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
I just sampled the UI process
Cool trick!!
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Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote
Moreover, usually when I see people using completion, it's highly a lost
of time.
the basic case is instead of fully typing 'asString', they type 'as', wait
3 seconds, press arrow down 20 times, and finally accept.
That's why I have enter-to-accept disabled and
Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote
Since Nautilus is meant to also work without the refactoring engine, I
have provided the Analyze menu
Maybe it could appear conditionally - only if refactoring is not present -
and be called something more similar to Refactoring like Basic
Refactoring...
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difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;)
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MetacelloToolBox
createBaseline: '1.0-baseline'
for: 'MyProject' Project name
repository: 'http://squeaksource.com/MyRepo'
requiredProjects: #()
packages: #('MyPackage')
repositories: #()
dependencies: { }
groups: { }.
creates a configuration class named
Tudor Girba-2 wrote
Indeed, much better. I keep on forgetting that :).
Me too! Really cool service :) I just made a config and uploaded to sqs and
ss3/meta...for...20
Gofer it
squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
package: 'ConfigurationOfSharedWorkspace';
load.
(or load via the
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
I updated the Getting Started Workspace:
http://ws.stfx.eu/1WS4U
to reflect the existence of the ConfigurationOfSharedWorkspace.
It takes a village :)
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Some selectors are of the form browseAllXyz (e.g. browseAllSendersOf:), while
others are like browseAbc (e.g. browseSendersOf:name:autoSelect:)
The Alls seem extraneous. If the thing being browsed is plural (e.g.
Senders instead of sender), that implies All since there are no other
qualifiers,
We have so many cool mechanisms for in-image and external documentation now
that I sometimes get confused!
I considered a rant, but figured it'd be just as easy to write a plugin for
Nautilus (thanks to Ben) ;) It gives you two buttons:
- Browse Tests, which becomes enabled when there are test
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
DocumentationPlugin
Should work in Pharo 2.0 and 3.0.
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Sean
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Torsten Bergmann wrote
The old HelpSystem that I wrote is in-image and was a first attempt on
docu.
Ah, I see. I'm glad that you said that. I thought that was how help
is/should currently be done.
Torsten Bergmann wrote
I REALLY prefer that we switch to PharoOnlineHelp
which is available
From
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10219/Completion-enter-on-accept-awkwardness
:
The combination of enter on accept, with the current behavior to select
the first completion suggestion by default = trouble. For example:
1. Type printOn: aStream... pretty common method start
2. Hit
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
theres a setting to:
- disable ENTER to accept the completion
- to increase the popup delay
Yes, but tweaking those to solve this issue is kind of a hack. Personally, I
definitely do not want to delay the popup as it breaks my flow to wait for
it. I've already disabled
Igor Stasenko wrote
Any feedback help contributions improvements is welcome.
Really nice :) That was my first time using the zero conf scripts... very
slick :) And the tutorial was extremely clear and thorough. This active
essay embodies the dynabook spirit.
I added a The end page and a
Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote
once the package is unloaded
Browsing Announcement subclasses, I see RPackageUnregistered and
CategoryRemoved. Maybe one of those would help. Also, it's better to ask
user questions on pharo-us...@lists.gforge.inria.fr, so your question
doesn't get lost and it
Janko Mivšek wrote
On the Web Frontiers with Smalltalk
http://ftp.eranova.si/aida/mivsek-web-frontiers-esug11.pdf
Great slideshow! Thanks :)
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