Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi Marcus, I completely agree. Now, just one thing. We have to start with putting in place a full fledged dev image as soon as a new Core version is started. Like this we can use that one from the beginning. For example, in Moose we switch to the new version as soon as the dev is

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-19 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Marcus, I completely agree. Now, just one thing. We have to start with putting in place a full fledged dev image as soon as a new Core version is started. Like this we can use that one from the beginning. For example, in Moose we switch to the new version as soon as the dev is available.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
Very good! We then can release the 1.2 Full soon, too. I wonder if we should adopt your OB codebase for that? Or do we wait for 1.2.1? I would wait a bit. I noticed that the debugger is quite broken. I only get the pre-debug window, but clicking on any button opens another pre-debug window. I

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
Ahh, looks like SimpleMorphic has some (probably unintentional) overrides of core methods. Unloading the package pretty much breaks everything :-( Lukas On 18 March 2011 07:02, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Very good! We then can release the 1.2 Full soon, too. I wonder if we should

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 18, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: Ahh, looks like SimpleMorphic has some (probably unintentional) overrides of core methods. Unloading the package pretty much breaks everything :-( Lukas On 18 March 2011 07:02, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Very good! We then

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 18.03.2011 07:41, Marcus Denker wrote: On Mar 18, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: Ahh, looks like SimpleMorphic has some (probably unintentional) overrides of core methods. Unloading the package pretty much breaks everything :-( Lukas On 18 March 2011 07:02, Lukas

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. Marcus I thought the general idea was to remove SimpleMorphic before releases? Think I read so in an issue, or on the list. Yes, but it was not done for 1.2 and 1.2 is

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On 18 Mar 2011, at 08:07, Marcus Denker wrote: On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. Marcus I thought the general idea was to remove SimpleMorphic before releases? Think I read so in an issue, or on

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Marcus Denker
Yes, but it was not done for 1.2 and 1.2 is *finished*. If we want to do that, we need to do that *not after the release is released* but before. This whole thing just shows that I only look at 1.2 when it is released *DOES NOT WORK*. 1.2 Core was Release Canditate for *two months*.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
I would not unload packaged. Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am sure you will have problems. And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. You must be joking right? In the mission you say stable and small core, but the numbers say something entirely

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: I would not unload packaged. Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am sure you will have problems. And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. You must be joking right? In the mission you say stable and

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: I would not unload packaged. Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am sure you will have problems. And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. You

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+1 I would not unload packaged. Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am sure you will have problems. And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. You must be joking right? In the mission you say stable and small core, but the numbers say something

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Lukas Marcus is RIGHT. How can we make progress without adding temporarily new libraries and migrating? How can we make progress if people do not use the release candidate phase as it should be? Tell me because we are all ears opened. Stef I would not unload packaged. Everything not tested

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
lukas Can you tell us where? What method is doing a problem? The point of simpleMorphic is that there is a value in it and if we do not give a chance to people to have a look at it then the money spent by esug is lost (of course esug was not paying for simpleMorphic but this is like that).

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
Can you tell us where? What method is doing a problem? Model#topView seems to be the only override of a core method. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: Can you tell us where? What method is doing a problem? Model#topView seems to be the only override of a core method. Ok: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3828 I will add that tonight. -- Marcus Denker --

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Miguel Cobá
+1 El vie, 18-03-2011 a las 08:24 +0100, Marcus Denker escribió: On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: I would not unload packaged. Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am sure you will have problems. And nobody ever unloaded anything

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Lukas Renggli
Another issue is the class GLMOrangeUITheme being in the 'Morphic' package and an indirect subclass of UITheme that is in the 'Polymorph' package which itself depends on the 'Morphic' package == circular dependency == loading/unloading impossible. Lukas On 18 March 2011 17:14, Miguel Cobá

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-18 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 18 March 2011 20:47, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Another issue is the class GLMOrangeUITheme being in the 'Morphic' package and an indirect subclass of UITheme that is in the 'Polymorph' package which itself depends on the 'Morphic' package == circular dependency ==

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-17 Thread Lukas Renggli
I've got my complete Jenkins server building on Pharo 1.2 now: http://jenkins.lukas-renggli.ch/ Some stuff is still a bit broken, but it looks good so far. Lukas On 16 March 2011 18:09, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! Can somebody update    

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-17 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 17 March 2011 19:11, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: I've got my complete Jenkins server building on Pharo 1.2 now:    http://jenkins.lukas-renggli.ch/ Some stuff is still a bit broken, but it looks good so far. cool. We need to put a pressure on INRIA guys to upgrade to jenkins..

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-17 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I've got my complete Jenkins server building on Pharo 1.2 now: http://jenkins.lukas-renggli.ch/ Some stuff is still a bit broken, but it looks good so far. cool. We need to put a pressure on INRIA guys to upgrade to jenkins.. because right now some things are not working well

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: I've got my complete Jenkins server building on Pharo 1.2 now: http://jenkins.lukas-renggli.ch/ Some stuff is still a bit broken, but it looks good so far. Very good! We then can release the 1.2 Full soon, too. I wonder if we should

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-16 Thread Lukas Renggli
Excellent! Can somebody update http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/stable-core because it still points to Pharo 1.1.1, thus the build server picks up the old image. Lukas On 14 March 2011 22:13, Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com wrote: Saturday, 1.2 worked with a Cog-Stack VM.

[Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-14 Thread Marcus Denker
Please check... https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28340/PharoCore-1.2.zip -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-14 Thread laurent laffont
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: Please check... https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28340/PharoCore-1.2.zip What is the official VM for Pharo 1.2 ? Running all tests with Cog (OSX) = crash. Laurent. -- Marcus Denker --

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-14 Thread Marcus Denker
On Mar 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, laurent laffont wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Please check... https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28340/PharoCore-1.2.zip What is the official VM for Pharo 1.2 ? Running all tests with

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

2011-03-14 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Saturday, 1.2 worked with a Cog-Stack VM. Noury On 14 mars 2011, at 15:17, Marcus Denker wrote: On Mar 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, laurent laffont wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Please check...