Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Talking to Steve Jobs about Scratch.

2010-06-10 Thread John M McIntosh
Well I was hoping to have a few more days to settle things. The Smalltalk community should take a deep bow and thank Alan Kay for spending many hours talking to the highest level of people at Apple about the importance of the iPad as a platform to teach computational theory to people of all

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Talking to Steve Jobs about Scratch.

2010-04-21 Thread Phil (list)
I've been surprised that I haven't seen any statement from ESUG re: how these policies negatively impact the future prospects for Smalltalk on the iPhone/iPad and the investments they've made in the platform to date that Apple seems willing to wipe out. Wouldn't now be a good time to try

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Talking to Steve Jobs about Scratch.

2010-04-21 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:26 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: On 2010-04-21, at 1:13 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: Good! John in future version it may be good to mention that ESUG supported this VM work for the iphone. STef Yes, I did conduct a magazine interview today where I ensured I did

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Talking to Steve Jobs about Scratch.

2010-04-21 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Phil (list) wrote: I've been surprised that I haven't seen any statement from ESUG re: how these policies negatively impact the future prospects for Smalltalk on the iPhone/iPad and the investments they've made in the platform to date that Apple seems willing

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Talking to Steve Jobs about Scratch.

2010-04-21 Thread John M McIntosh
Phil, last week I asked the smalltalk community (ESUG etc), to stay claim and wait for Apple to think about it based on an email exchange I had with Steve Jobs. At the time I thought it prudent to wait a further decision or statement. Give that Wired publish Alan my thoughts on the matter

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Talking to Steve Jobs about Scratch.

2010-04-21 Thread Phil (list)
John Stephane, Fair enough and good to know that folks like ESUG will be weighing in. I think you're on the right track re: gathering vocal support from the Scratch community that is constructive rather than bashing Apple, and have mainly been wondering why there wasn't a more