Hi All,
Redline Smalltalk, a Smalltalk for the JAVA Virtual Machine, is making
a big push to get V1.0 out.
We really need your help with the class library (in Smalltalk) or in Java
with the implementation or with financial support via Indiegogo here.
Helping Redline brings more people to
We are ensuring that Pharo code can run unmodified on Redline Smalltalk.
This is exciting to us as recently Redline Smalltalk was deployed to the
cloud on Heroku. We think Redline and Pharo opens up new possibilities.
To do more we need your help, and ask you to support Redline Smalltalk
with
Are there some vital things that are impossible if #become: is
missing? (no irony in my question, I just don't know)
Changing a class on the fly. #become: is used behind the scene
Alexandre
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On 30 Nov 2012, at 23:33, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Redline is not trying to be a full-fledged Smalltalk (not like
the Squeak port to the JVM). It is more in the spirit of Amber. A
Smalltalk-to-Java compiler, with some underlying runtime support. It
does not aim at
On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 30 Nov 2012, at 23:33, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Redline is not trying to be a full-fledged Smalltalk (not like
the Squeak port to the JVM). It is more in the spirit of Amber. A
On 1 December 2012 19:36, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 30 Nov 2012, at 23:33, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Redline is not trying to be a full-fledged Smalltalk (not like
the Squeak port to the JVM). It is more in the spirit of Amber. A
Smalltalk-to-Java
Ok, wow. Didn't know that.
So, whenever I change a class, I have both the old version and the new
version co-existing?
And then the instances are told to become: instances of the new class?
Thanks for the info.
2012/12/1 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com:
Are there some vital things
2012/12/1 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
IMO, the secret of Smalltalk is a delicate combination of elements, take some
out and the magic is gone.
Fully agree. Only a pure or classical Smalltalk would give you
that magic, the true experience.
But I think, and hope, that the Redline
2012/12/1 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr:
IMO, the secret of Smalltalk is a delicate combination of elements, take
some out and the magic is gone.
Another aspect is that what got me hooked to Squeak back then was the idea to
go further than Smalltalk.
To take what humanity learned
2012/12/1 Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com:
I'm not sure that's a limitation of the JVM (not being able to extend
classes, that is): in Clojure you can happily extend existing types
through extend-type:
(extend-type clojure.lang.IPersistentVector
ComparableParser
(eq [this that]
Ok, wow. Didn't know that.
So, whenever I change a class, I have both the old version and the new
version co-existing?
And then the instances are told to become: instances of the new class?
Yes
Alexandre
2012/12/1 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com:
Are there some vital things
Hi guys
just for your information this mailing-list is Pharo-development. You can
discuss a lot of topics in Pharo-users
but in Pharo-dev we would really appreciate to get a bit focused.
I try to read all the mails to be able to help people but it means processing a
lot of mails :)
and I
You're right, sorry :-)
2012/12/1 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
Hi guys
just for your information this mailing-list is Pharo-development. You can
discuss a lot of topics in Pharo-users
but in Pharo-dev we would really appreciate to get a bit focused.
I try to read all the
On Dec 1, 2012, at 10:19 PM, Sebastian Nozzi wrote:
You're right, sorry :-)
:)
2012/12/1 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
Hi guys
just for your information this mailing-list is Pharo-development. You can
discuss a lot of topics in Pharo-users
but in Pharo-dev we would
On 1 December 2012 20:22, Sebastian Nozzi sebno...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/12/1 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
IMO, the secret of Smalltalk is a delicate combination of elements, take
some out and the magic is gone.
Fully agree. Only a pure or classical Smalltalk would give you
that
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Redline Smalltalk on heroku
Nothing beats Smalltalk's experience.
Cheers,
Sebastian
Redline Smalltalk is easily deployed to Heroku, a cloud service.
So writing web apps in Smalltalk and deploying them to the could
just got a whole let easier. https://stout.herokuapp.com/
Please support the Redline project here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/smalltalk/x/1366536
YES - We are
On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:08 PM, James Ladd james_l...@hotmail.com wrote:
Redline Smalltalk is easily deployed to Heroku, a cloud service.
So writing web apps in Smalltalk and deploying them to the could
just got a whole let easier. https://stout.herokuapp.com/
Please support the Redline
I am one of those developers coding Java for a living, but
day-dreaming of using Smalltalk instead.
As such, the Redline project of course cought my attention and took a
look at it.
I am no authority on Redline, but I think there is some confusion here
that I could clarify.
2012/11/30 Marcus
Redline Smalltalk has undergone some Big changes, maybe now is a good time
for you to try it? http://redline.st
On 04/23/2012 08:05 AM, James Ladd wrote:
Redline Smalltalk has undergone some Big changes, maybe now is a good time
for you to try it? http://redline.st
Could you outline some of those changes?
Cheers
Philippe
You mean in the redline mailing-list?
Stef
Redline Smalltalk has undergone some Big changes, maybe now is a good time
for you to try it? http://redline.st
Could you outline some of those changes?
Cheers
Philippe
Yes, information about Redline will be in its mailing list
here: http://groups.google.com/group/redline-smalltalk
I hope you are ok with announcement style things here?
On 24 April 2012 02:10, James Ladd james_l...@hotmail.com wrote:
Yes, information about Redline will be in its mailing list
here: http://groups.google.com/group/redline-smalltalk
I hope you are ok with announcement style things here?
as long as you won't start saying throw away yours, use
On 12 déc. 2010, at 04:08, James Ladd wrote:
The series of posts on implementing Redline Smalltalk for the Java Virtual
Machine has begun.
You can code along and influence the direction of Redline.
http://blog.redline.st/2010/12/12/redline-smalltalk-in-%E2%80%9Csmall-talks%E2%80%9D/
That's a great initiative.
I will read your blog regularly to know the progress of Redline Smalltalk.
Thanks,
#Luc
2010/12/12 Noury Bouraqadi bouraq...@gmail.com
On 12 déc. 2010, at 04:08, James Ladd wrote:
The series of posts on implementing Redline Smalltalk for the Java
Virtual
On 12 Dec 2010, at 04:08, James Ladd wrote:
The series of posts on implementing Redline Smalltalk for the Java Virtual
Machine has begun.
You can code along and influence the direction of Redline.
http://blog.redline.st/2010/12/12/redline-smalltalk-in-%E2%80%9Csmall-talks%E2%80%9D/
The series of posts on implementing Redline Smalltalk for the Java Virtual
Machine has begun.
You can code along and influence the direction of Redline.
http://blog.redline.st/2010/12/12/redline-smalltalk-in-%E2%80%9Csmall-talks%E2%80%9D/
Rgs, James.
On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Dan Ingalls wrote:
Hi, Stef -
This is fun because I was rereading the miniimage contents and started to
think in terms of package reorganization to support a mini image.
I reread also Spoon a bit and I was looking at the nuturning.
Dan it would be nice if you
Are you aware of the work I did that enables class fault detection in
Squeak?
If a class has a nil methodDictionary, it causes a fault (ie it sends
recoverFromMDFault to the class). That code then restores the MD in
addition to any anyalysis you want. I never cleaned it up for posterity,
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
Potato is JSqueak. I don't get it.
I know :)
Now having two different repositories with not synchronized code is not
really good.
which two repositories?
Best,
Michael
the one of potataoe and the code that we can find on Jsqueak web site.
I imagine that they are not the same.
On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Michael Haupt wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
Potato is JSqueak. I don't get it.
I know
Hi Stéphane,
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
the one of potataoe and the code that we can find on Jsqueak web site.
I imagine that they are not the same.
they are not. As far as I understood it, the code available from the
JSqueak page is
I know and this is why I mentioned to dan that it would be good to merge back
because may be a poor
guy will just reimplement exactly what the guy in potatoes already did long
time ago.
But at the end of the day I do not care because I know. I should stop to be
altruist.
Stef
On Apr 7, 2010,
Hi,
2010/4/6 Dan Ingalls d...@squeakland.org:
I think you know of my JSqueak project (a.k.a. Potato) -- a Squeak VM
written in Java. The image that I used with it, is the same that I always
use for this kind of experiment -- mini.image built in Squeak 2.2.
The reason it is so cool is that it
Hi dan
This is fun because I was rereading the miniimage contents and started to think
in terms of package reorganization to support a mini image.
I reread also Spoon a bit and I was looking at the nuturning.
Dan it would be nice if you could merge the potatoe change into Jsqueak?
Dan, Mariano
Hi, Stef -
This is fun because I was rereading the miniimage contents and started to
think in terms of package reorganization to support a mini image.
I reread also Spoon a bit and I was looking at the nuturning.
Dan it would be nice if you could merge the potatoe change into Jsqueak?
Potato is
Hi Dan,
We spoke (email) a while back when I was petitioning Sun (Guy Steele) to help
with a Smalltalk for the JVM.
I like your work a lot and I get inspiration from it.
Thank you for taking the time to respond to this list and me.
Bert Freudenberg - Thank you for forwarding to Dan.
Rgs,
James Ladd mailto:james_l...@hotmail.comjames_l...@hotmail.com wrote...
Hi Pharo-ites,
I'm working on a port of Pharo to the Java Virtual Machine called
Redline Smalltalk.
(read more
here: http://jamesladdcode.com/?p=323http://jamesladdcode.com/?p=323)
I'm wanting to port every single
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