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yes think it's a good idea. I'm not sure the granularity that's
-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Michael Roberts
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yes think it's a good idea. I'm not sure the granularity that's
required though
Roberts
[m...@mjr104.co.uk]
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yes think it's a good idea. I'm not sure the granularity that's
required though.
mike
On Saturday, May 29, 2010, stephane ducasse
@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit Time out
yes think it's a good idea. I'm not sure the granularity that's
required though.
mike
On Saturday, May 29, 2010, stephane ducasse
stephane.duca...@free.fr
wrote:
Hi guys
in Squeak andreas
Hi Chris -
Let me comment on this from a more general point of view first, before
going into the specifics. I've spent the last five years building a
distributed system and during this time I've learned a couple of things
about the value of timeouts :-) One thing that I've come to understand
2010/5/31 Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com:
2010/5/30 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
On May 30, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Chris Muller wrote:
(Copying squeak-dev too).
I'm not sold on the whole test timeout thing. When I run tests, I
want to know the answer to the
Oh, and I see one more advantage: Only quick tests are run
interactively by default from your TestRunner.
We could automate the separation between long tests and quick tests
based on timeout if the information is discoverable (either in method
annotations or class side query, I don't care).
Of
ok tx
Now may be the test runner should be adapted.
We will see. Now I just remove the items from the urgent list and if the need
emerges
we know that this is there.
Stef
On May 31, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
2010/5/30 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
On May 30,
In other words, the timeout has the advantage to turn a rather
implicit requirement into an explicit requirement.
And it's then up to test producers to fine tune their tests wrt this
requirement or use the available hooks in case of long tests, rather
than letting the integrator guess.
On May 31, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
Oh, and I see one more advantage: Only quick tests are run
interactively by default from your TestRunner.
We could automate the separation between long tests and quick tests
based on timeout if the information is discoverable (either in
In other words, the timeout has the advantage to turn a rather
implicit requirement into an explicit requirement.
I can almost understand it for this, especially in the context of
development within an open source community. Unfortunately, it
neuters the deterministic property. Did it timeout
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To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit Time out
yes think it's a good idea. I'm not sure the granularity that's
required though.
mike
On Saturday, May 29, 2010, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr
wrote:
Hi guys
On May 30, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Chris Muller wrote:
(Copying squeak-dev too).
I'm not sold on the whole test timeout thing. When I run tests, I
want to know the answer to the question, is the software working?
Putting a timeout on tests trades a slower, but definitive, yes or
no for a
Hi guys
in Squeak andreas introduced the idea of test time out
Do you think that this is interesting?
Stef
SUnit
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All test cases now have an associated timeout after which the test is
considered failed. The purpose of the timeout is to catch issues like infinite
loops, unexpected user
yes think it's a good idea. I'm not sure the granularity that's
required though.
mike
On Saturday, May 29, 2010, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote:
Hi guys
in Squeak andreas introduced the idea of test time out
Do you think that this is interesting?
Stef
SUnit
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