Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

yes we should have done that On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:44 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: I said it before: just give the variable a different name. For example, textStyle. That would solve all loading problems. Doru On 9 Dec 2010, at 22:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Thanks all for your time. We

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

Yes I think that this is the pattern that we are applying for packageInfo for example I said it before: This doesn't solve anything at all. In fact it is much easier to remove the variable and fork the code. Renaming causes a ripple effect to lots of methods and makes it impossible to merge

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

so, concerning the new editor changes, I would like to help because this messy situation is partly my fault. would it be helpful if I rename current TextEditor as TextEditor2, (give me another name please ...), current SmalltalkEditor as SmalltalkEditor2 and reintroduce the previous

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

No, don't waste time on reverting. I almost got it working. My comment was ment for the future :-) Lukas On 10 December 2010 13:02, Alain Plantec alain.plan...@free.fr wrote: so, concerning the new editor changes, I would like to help because this messy situation is partly my fault. would it

[Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

I wonder why the old editor functionality was removed instead of being deprecated until the next release like this is normally done? It is extremely difficult to get any GUI related stuff ported, because the packages cannot simply be loaded. One has to fix part of the package in the old image,

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

Hi lukas, sorry for your frustration, that I can easily understand I do not remember. There are some changes that when deprecated get in our way. I still think that we need a refactoring deprecate methods because just doing all of them by hand is not possible. I believe that we need to have the

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

Hi Lukas, all I guess I'm the one who made all this bad changes. So sorry, sorry sorry. Maybe we can come back to the old one. No problem for me. I can make a slice in that direction. But frankly, what a catastrophic mail for people who are trying to make the system cleaner. do you know how much

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Lukas Renggli wrote: I wonder why the old editor functionality was removed instead of being deprecated until the next release like this is normally done? It is extremely difficult to get any GUI related stuff ported, because the packages cannot simply be loaded. One has to

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

And shout is kinda working too... i tried hard on OB just for fun but had no luck.. i think i'd got meta meta confused :) I would love to dedicate more time to it, but currently i'm very bussy. Cheers, Francisco On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote: On Thu, 9

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

I guess I'm the one who made all this bad changes. So sorry, sorry sorry. I don't think so. Maybe we can come back to the old one. No problem for me. I think the main problem is that the new editor model (which I really like) was merged directly into the existing editor morphs, so

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

Thanks all for your time. We should try to do it better in the future. We should also change and improve our tools for helping us being better. Now something important is how can we move this style variable in a way that we can move it and also avoid to break. this is just an example: let us do

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

Ducasse [stephane.duca...@inria.fr] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 4:49 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed? Thanks all for your time. We should try to do it better in the future. We should also change and improve

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

I said it before: just give the variable a different name. For example, textStyle. That would solve all loading problems. Doru On 9 Dec 2010, at 22:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Thanks all for your time. We should try to do it better in the future. We should also change and improve our tools

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Lukas Renggli wrote: I guess I'm the one who made all this bad changes. So sorry, sorry sorry. I don't think so. Maybe we can come back to the old one. No problem for me. I think the main problem is that the new editor model (which I really like) was merged directly

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'm the one who made all this bad changes. So sorry, sorry sorry. I don't think so. Maybe we can come back to the old one. No problem for me. I think the main problem is that the new editor model (which I

Re: [Pharo-project] Why was the old Editor Functionality Removed?

I said it before: just give the variable a different name. For example, textStyle. That would solve all loading problems. I said it before: This doesn't solve anything at all. In fact it is much easier to remove the variable and fork the code. Renaming causes a ripple effect to lots of methods