On Apr 25, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
I am a bit puzzled by the current trend of 2.0.
Are these additions part of the image, or will they be loaded continuously on
top of a seed image?
Yes, loaded on top of a seed image.
For one, the Pharo image that we call Pharo
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Francisco Garau francisco.ga...@gmail.com
wrote:
The following code demonstrates the problem:
EllipseMorph new
setBalloonText: 'hello world';
openInWorld
It's always the same behaviour regardless the text (even adding an extra
space at the end computes
Thx for reporting.
We (Cmsbox) needed to replace our complete storage infrastructure which
crashed randomly and without warning several times in the last weeks.
During the restore and the replacement there were several service
outages for a few minutes. Thank you for your understanding.
On 26 Apr 2012, at 09:36, Marcus Denker wrote:
Yes, loaded on top of a seed image.
For one, the Pharo image that we call Pharo needs to be what we use daily.
Already in 1.4, most
people at RMoD use the Nautilus build, not 1.4 as is. And this is a problem,
because getting the details
Hi Chris,
the planed changes in Pharo are not autotelic but in most cases they
are replacements of current buggy and unmaintainable subsytems.
We also use automatic or semiautomatic tools for shrinking and
modularization of the image. For example uMorphic is generated moslty
automatically with
Well said!
Norbert
Am 26.04.2012 um 10:19 schrieb Pavel Krivanek:
Hi Chris,
the planed changes in Pharo are not autotelic but in most cases they
are replacements of current buggy and unmaintainable subsytems.
We also use automatic or semiautomatic tools for shrinking and
modularization
+100
Thanks for putting it so clearly, Pavel.
On 26 Apr 2012, at 10:19, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi Chris,
the planed changes in Pharo are not autotelic but in most cases they
are replacements of current buggy and unmaintainable subsytems.
We also use automatic or semiautomatic tools for
Hi,
as I see the ScriptLoader log was cleanded in 14432. Do we have full
version somewhere? CI versions history is not so long. I found that
keyboard input is not working in latest Reloaded Core image And I
wanted to see when it happened. I saw it in results of latests Fuel
tests but I expected
On 26 April 2012 03:35, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Frank Shearar wrote:
On 20 April 2012 15:15, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 20 April 2012 03:51, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr
Thanks! I wasnt aware of that projec.
Fernando
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
Fernando olivero-2 wrote
Seems it depends on XMLDOMParser?
How can i install it?
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
package:
Hi,
I don't understand why
'/tmp' asReference isDirectory. false
'/private/tmp' asReference isDirectory. false
'/Users/sven' asReference isDirectory. true
'/Users/sven/Desktop' asReference isDirectory. true
on Pharo 1.4 Mac OS X Cog VM.
Anybody any idea ? Am I doing something wrong ?
Thx,
First public push of the first step of the hazelnut GSoC project :)
*In a nutshell*
For those who didn't know SystemTracer (the father):
It is a tool that traces a graph of objects and writes an image from it.
ImageWriter is a refactored, renamed and repackaged version of
SystemTracer2 with the
BUILD UNSTABLEBuild URLhttps://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo%20Kernel%201.4%20Reload%20Tests-Unix/86/Project:Pharo Kernel 1.4 Reload Tests-UnixDate of build:Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:01:41 +0200Build duration:3 min 41 secCHANGESNo ChangesJUnit TestsName: Announcements.Tests.Core Failed: 0 test(s),
Fernando wrote
Thanks! I wasnt aware of that projec.
Also look at Pastell which allows for easy XPath like access to XML.
See
http://astares.blogspot.de/2010/01/pharosqueak-and-xml.html
for an example.
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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be wrote:
'/tmp' asReference isDirectory. false
'/private/tmp' asReference isDirectory. false
'/Users/sven' asReference isDirectory. true
'/Users/sven/Desktop' asReference isDirectory. true
on Pharo 1.4 Mac OS X Cog VM.
For
Great news!
I tried it on fresh 1.4 and I got:
SmalltalkImage(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #shutDownImage:
HzImageWriterwriteImage:
Do you plan to create a loader too? To be able to load objects from
different image file.
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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Guillermo Polito
On 25-04-2012 20:18, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
(...)
is:
Gofer new
squeaksource3: 'Nautilus';
package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus';
load.
.
Thanks
CdAB
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El 4/26/12 5:19 AM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com escribió:
Hi Chris,
the planed changes in Pharo are not autotelic but in most cases they
are replacements of current buggy and unmaintainable subsytems.
We also use automatic or semiautomatic tools for shrinking and
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.comwrote:
Great news!
I tried it on fresh 1.4 and I got:
SmalltalkImage(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #shutDownImage:
HzImageWriterwriteImage:
Oups, bad packaging :). Will fix that asap.
Do you plan to create a loader
Strange. I can't find it :-(
Nautilus points to Nautilus 1.4.
And I can't figure out the link.
Noury
On 25 avr. 2012, at 19:14, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Benjamin
benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote:
Since a couple of minutes, Nautilus is part
Am 26.04.2012 um 14:05 schrieb Edgar De Cleene:
El 4/26/12 5:19 AM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com escribió:
Hi Chris,
the planed changes in Pharo are not autotelic but in most cases they
are replacements of current buggy and unmaintainable subsytems.
We also use
On Apr 26, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
Strange. I can't find it :-(
Nautilus points to Nautilus 1.4.
And I can't figure out the link.
https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/
Nautilus is included.
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Quoting Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com
wrote:
Great news!
I tried it on fresh 1.4 and I got:
SmalltalkImage(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #shutDownImage:
HzImageWriterwriteImage:
Oups, bad
we changed that not so long ago :) but it will do the same
the problem will be that the VM primitive might not follow symlinks (that would
explain the first line)
no clue though why it should return false for '/private/var'...
On 2012-04-26, at 13:58, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi
Can anyone tell me if this combination is working. If I try to
load Pier3 I get nice crash
Thanks in advance
Friedrich
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Pavel Krivanek
pavel.kriva...@gmail.comwrote:
Great news!
I tried it on fresh 1.4 and I got:
SmalltalkImage(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #shutDownImage:
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
Thanks Sean. I will have a look.
Okay great. It'd be nice to have this settled and not see it come up on the
list anymore :) And the code is minimal...
Sean
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Hi,
This is probably a stupid question. Why in Pharo 1.4, the system browser does
not display classes hierarchically in the column instances / class. Each class
is displayed at the same level. It's not easy to read.
How to get the same behavior as in previous versions of Pharo ?
Best regards
20012
-
Issue 5686: Add some primitive testing methods to CompiledMethod
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5686
Issue 5692: extract startup and shutdown from snapshot:andQuit:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5692
Issue
On 26 Apr 2012, at 15:11, Camillo Bruni wrote:
we changed that not so long ago :) but it will do the same
the problem will be that the VM primitive might not follow symlinks (that
would explain the first line)
no clue though why it should return false for '/private/var'...
OK:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Olivier Auverlot
olivier.auver...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This is probably a stupid question. Why in Pharo 1.4, the system browser
does not display classes hierarchically in the column instances / class.
Each class is displayed at the same level. It's not easy
Miguel Cobá wrote
Friends,
what energy!
Right on!! I like these passionate exchanges. It reminds me how different
our community is from a job. We care deeply about beauty, truth and
goodness; and our work is an expression of that.
Now let's harness this energy to accelerate the
In the previous version of Pharo, I think you used OBBrowser.
But the default browser has always been Browser (the one in 1.4 with a flat
display of classes).
Indeed it's hard to read, that's why I can propose you to have a look at
Nautilus (the new default Browser which is working on 1.4)
Hi,
Pharo 1.4 does not have OB by default, which was the browser previous pharo
versions had. So... it ships with the old historical browsers, who is very
basic and lacks a lot of functionality (not just visuals, also Refactorings,
etc.).
So... for installing Nautilus (It will be the official
fstephany wrote
I'm updating some Metacello configurations and I'm wondering how to
declare the dependencies on... FS
I noticed that the configuration for FS in MetacelloRepository points to the
original fs project on SqS. It seems it would be better, when working in
1.3, to load the new
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
Issue 4617: More error tolerant startup
Sounds awesome! I lost many images due to broken startup scripts. In
fact,
that's what inspired me to hack the VM ;-) I know several others have
had
similar issues breaking images...
1.4 has a different solution that is in
Chris Muller-3 wrote
generating plenty of marketing buzz with frameworks-of-the-month
(such as the ones you listed). In Cuis, Smalltalk _is_ the framework
and users are expected to build on that directly.
Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote
the planed changes in Pharo are not autotelic but in
El 4/26/12 10:19 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com
escribió:
Now it is fixed :). Tested it in a clean 2.0 image and worked :).
Guillermo:
I like duplicate all steps.
Dowloaded a clean all in one 2.0.
You have a script for loading and test Hazelnut and all your new work ?
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
no clue though why it should return false for '/private/var'...
For /private/var, primitive: 'primitiveDirectoryLookup' module:
'FilePlugin' returns false for the dir flag... still investigating...
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Sean,
On 26 Apr 2012, at 02:23, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote
Now, you are right that there should be some convenience method to make
that easier. I'll think about it for a bit and let you know if I can come
up with something.
What about:
download: urlString to:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Frank Shearar wrote:
On 26 April 2012 03:35, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Frank Shearar wrote:
On 20 April 2012 15:15, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 20 April 2012 03:51, Levente
On 26 April 2012 16:01, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Frank Shearar wrote:
On 26 April 2012 03:35, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Frank Shearar wrote:
On 20 April 2012 15:15, Frank Shearar
Hi Eliot/Levente. What is the status of this? Do we have already the new
primitive? If true, how can we adapt LargeIdentitySet to use such new
primitive?
AFAIK the new primitive is not implemented yet. Adding the primitive to
the interpreter VM is very easy, but it seems to be a lot more
Hi
does anybody ported the implementation of VNC to pharo 1.3 or 1.4?
If so, could you share it? :-)
Thanks!
Hernan.
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Am 26.04.2012 um 17:21 schrieb Hernan Wilkinson:
Hi
does anybody ported the implementation of VNC to pharo 1.3 or 1.4?
If so, could you share it? :-)
I use it daily on pharo 1.3. I load it via metacello. My baseline entry looks
like this
project: 'RFB' with: [
spec
On 26-04-2012 11:31, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Yes this is the key! It's not let's build all these great frameworks on top
of the system, but we need a clean, beautiful system that people can use
and explore and build on without tearing their hair out in frustration [1]
and some of the
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
For /private/var, primitive: 'primitiveDirectoryLookup' module:
'FilePlugin' returns false for the dir flag... still investigating...
sqSqueakOSXFileDirectoryInterface-resolvedAliasFiles: calls
stringByStandardizingPath on the filePath, which the manual [1] states
Should have been...
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
Removing the call returns the correct value (true) for '/private/tmp'
asFileReference isDirectory
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Sean P. DeNigris wrote
The changed snippet is...
Issue 79: primitiveDirectoryLookup returns wrong dir flag
http://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=79
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Begin forwarded message:
From: David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com
Subject: Re: OSProcess - is process done?
Date: April 25, 2012 7:47:22 PM EDT
To: DeNigris Sean s...@clipperadams.com
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 01:50:35PM -0400, DeNigris Sean wrote:
David, does this tell us anything? I'm
Hi Sean,
An fread() call will block when reading from a unix pipe unless the pipe
end has been set to nonblocking mode (see #primSQFileSetNonBlocking:).
So the #upToEnd problem was solved by sending #setNonBlockingOutput. So the
following simple in-image ssh client works:
p :=
Hi Edgar,
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Edgar De Cleene edgardec2...@gmail.comwrote:
El 4/26/12 10:19 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com
escribió:
Now it is fixed :). Tested it in a clean 2.0 image and worked :).
Guillermo:
I like duplicate all steps.
Dowloaded a
Most of Pharo's focus problems can be solved by simply flipping two
preferences:
Keyboard focus on mouse down ::: set it false (instead of true)
Lose keyboard focus when mouse leave ::: set it true (instead of false)
Well, the problem I have with that is that my mouse is on a
What about naming it Package Loader or Package center or something like
that?
And putting it in the main menu instead of inside of Tools?
I want people who open pharo for the first time to say Hey, here I can
download stuff!!!
Guille
Pharo1.4
Latest update: #14438
- If I tried to open ProfStef -- DNU.
- Then I looked ProfStef packages and they are oldish.
- Open Configuration browser, select ConfigurationOfProfStef, load stable
- open ProfStef - all ok :)
Quoting H. Hirzel hannes.hir...@gmail.com:
On 4/21/12, Bernhard Pieber bernh...@pieber.com wrote:
Am 21.04.2012 um 22:22 schrieb p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be:
Yeah VM works on iOS.
Cool!
My use case is private, nothing fancy. I just value having decent
TextEditor and friends.
For
From http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets :
MCWorkingCopy allManagers flatCollect: [:e | e repositoryGroup
repositories].
- error: Array DNU #nsWriteStream
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This snippet is very useful, but it would have to be reapplied when new repos
are added:
repos := (MCWorkingCopy allManagers gather: [:e | e repositoryGroup
repositories]) asSet.
squeaksourceRepos := repos select: [:each |
(each isKindOf: MCHttpRepository) and: [
I noticed http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfMonthlyDonators
How do I join?
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If i remember well Stef asked a long time ago who was willing to donate
a monthly fee for Pharo. It has never really started..
Dont know if the the consortium will keep this or not?
On 26/04/12 14:45, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
I noticed http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfMonthlyDonators
On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:01 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
For Gemstone, I generate (and cache) the attributes based on programmatic
access to the image version number…
yes good idea I will add the same logic to the script loader!
Dale
- Original Message -
| From: Stéphane Ducasse
On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:01 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
... let me finish my thought ...
I can share that algorithm with you, if you want:)
sure send code :)
Dale
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| To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
| Sent:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/NileInstallation says: This page
describes the process we will follow to replace the current Stream library
by Nile.
Is that still on the agenda? I haven't heard it mentioned lately...
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basically you should a previous version and control the update by hand.
But indeed keeping a version just before removing the script loader history
would be good
exactly for such problems.
On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi,
as I see the ScriptLoader log was cleanded in
olivier
you should exit your office walk turn walk and talk to the guys just after the
toilet. ;D
after we will be in another building so it will be more difficult.
Yes pharo is going fast but you are the lucky guy that can talk to us :).
PS: tomorrow we hack together during a team sprint
Why holding 35 parsers in memory is a problem?
I imagine that the trees should be much much larger.
Stef
Gary Chambers-4 wrote
Well, Stef was wanting to get away from all that ;-) Hence Object cleanup
etc.
I totally understand the cleanup of regular methods, but are extension
methods included? In fact, why not hide extension categories by default in
Nautilus and then you have both
I temporarily rolled back my use of FileSystem due to
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5693
this is strange that it works in 1.4 and not in 2.0 because so far we nearly
changed anything :)
Stef
On Apr 26, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote:
I guess that one thing for immediate future of an open source industry
grade smalltalk is to define foundation classes to deal with core
functionality (file and directory management, (inter)networking,
multimedia, interfacing
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
this is strange that it works in 1.4 and not in 2.0 because so far we
nearly changed anything :)
It's a vm bug (see
http://forum.world.st/Confused-about-isDirectory-td4589441.html), so 1.3,
1.4 and 2.0 should be equally effected...
From issue 5693:
1.4
cool :)
Now it is fixed :). Tested it in a clean 2.0 image and worked :).
I want to pair program with you guys. I want to learn more.
Stef
Ok for me.
Package Maps Loader
Stef
What about naming it Package Loader or Package center or something like
that?
And putting it in the main menu instead of inside of Tools?
I want people who open pharo for the first time to say Hey, here I can
download stuff!!!
Guille
thanks! I prefer bugs that last and do not show up like mushrooms :)
On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
this is strange that it works in 1.4 and not in 2.0 because so far we
nearly changed anything :)
It's a vm bug (see
two answers
- we should pay attention that sometimes gary hacked polymorph because
he knew that he could not touch the core - so there are some parts that should
get in the right places.
- this is not about visibility more about dependencies
stef
On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:05 AM,
On 26 April 2012 23:05, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
Why holding 35 parsers in memory is a problem?
I imagine that the trees should be much much larger.
It's not really a problem. I just think it's less elegant than keeping
the parsers around only during a parse.
frank
Stef,
This should do the trick:
| pharoVersion tokens attributes attribute |
pharoVersion := '2.4.4.5'. not sure of version api for pharo
attributes := { #squeakCommon. #pharo }.
tokens := pharoVersion subStrings: $..
attribute := ''.
1 to: tokens
Can they really download stuff? How much? Until the configurations are truly
self-describing and know what to use for which version of Pharo[*], the
Config Browser is really (sorry guys) a very clear illustration of what we have
yet to do in the way of packaging.
Bill
[*] there needs to be
On 2012-04-27, at 01:17, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Can they really download stuff? How much? Until the configurations are
truly self-describing and know what to use for which version of Pharo[*],
the Config Browser is really (sorry guys) a very clear illustration of what
we have yet to do
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Date: April 26, 2012 8:03:50 PM EDT
Sean,
Excellent, thanks for the feedback. As for #upToEnd, that's a tricky
question when you are reading from a pipe (or a socket). It is not
Thanks! works just fine!
Hernan.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote:
Am 26.04.2012 um 17:21 schrieb Hernan Wilkinson:
Hi
does anybody ported the implementation of VNC to pharo 1.3 or 1.4?
If so, could you share it? :-)
I use it daily on pharo
You could also consider using 'xrpa' which is like screen but for X
applications. See Bernat Romagosa description here:
http://www.asmalltalkbytheseaside.com/#remotedevelopmentonpharowithoutvnc
Hernan Wilkinson-3 wrote
Thanks! works just fine!
Hernan.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:40
Paul DeBruicker wrote
You could also consider using 'xrpa' which is like screen but for X
applications. See Bernat Romagosa description here:
Woops. That should have been Xpra not Xrpa. See:
http://xpra.org/
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