Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks a lot! Friday we have an official sprint so I'm sure that this issue will be addressed. Stef See https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10425# and corresponding SLICE in 3.0 inbox Note: I don't know what is the policy with the labels/states of these bug tracker, and it rather

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2013/4/28 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr Hi denis Alain is gone on vacation but it told me that if you code scale he will throw away what he did :) May be the decorators that alain wrote can be merged. In any case this is excellent to get a better system. Yes. This is why I

[Pharo-project] Switching DNS server for pharo.org

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, We will change the DNS Server of pharo.org The forwards ci.pharo.org -- https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ issues.pharo.org -- http://bugs.pharo.org will not work for a while (till tomorrow latest) Everything else will be not affected. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 3.0 TestRunner results

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 28, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Benoit St-Jean bstj...@yahoo.com wrote: Here are the results with Pharo 3.0, update 30068). See attached file. ClassDescriptionTest#testUnCategorizedMethods ReleaseTest#testSystemAnnouncerIsUnique These two are failing on the build server, too.

Re: [Pharo-project] Switching DNS server for pharo.org

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 28, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, We will change the DNS Server of pharo.org The forwards ci.pharo.org -- https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/ issues.pharo.org -- http://bugs.pharo.org will not work for a while (till tomorrow

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 April 2013 08:25, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi 2013/4/27 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com Sean P. DeNigris wrote You're my new best friend :) The cursor is an actual Morph (TxCursorMorph) instead of magic conjured up my Paragraph!!! All my other friends are

[Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
i'd like to be able to: get.pharo.org/20sources get.pharo.org/30sources etc :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: i'd like to be able to: get.pharo.org/20sources get.pharo.org/30sources we should put the sources in the zip with the image. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Erwan Douaille
2013/4/28 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: i'd like to be able to: get.pharo.org/20sources get.pharo.org/30sources we should put the sources in the zip with the image. +1 with the pharo image launcher it

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Apr 2013, at 15:13, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: i'd like to be able to: get.pharo.org/20sources get.pharo.org/30sources we should put the sources in the zip with the image I am not sure, they

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 28 Apr 2013, at 15:13, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: i'd like to be able to: get.pharo.org/20sources get.pharo.org/30sources

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Apr 2013, at 15:27, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 28 Apr 2013, at 15:13, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 April 2013 15:27, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 28 Apr 2013, at 15:13, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: i'd like to

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 April 2013 08:41, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: thanks a lot! Friday we have an official sprint so I'm sure that this issue will be addressed. yes. and i hope i will put my changes into the soup as well. (i did not published them, and some bits are unfinished). Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Igor, do you mean everything related to millisecondClockValue (primitive 135)? That would be very good to get rid of this useless complexity! Of course it might cost some image freeze since used in Delay (I accidentally caused a few, but then narrowed my changes to something softer). 2013/4/28

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 April 2013 16:19, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Igor, do you mean everything related to millisecondClockValue (primitive 135)? yes. That would be very good to get rid of this useless complexity! Of course it might cost some image freeze since used in Delay (I

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 27 April 2013 16:53, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Denis Kudriashov wrote You can load configuration from http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sig/TxText. For the recreationally-inclined, like myself ;) Gofer it url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~sig/TxText';

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
Tried to load in Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30068 Got MNU: CharacterasShortcut why it is not there? :((( On 28 April 2013 16:37, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2013 16:53, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Denis Kudriashov wrote You can load configuration

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Tried to load in Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30068 Got MNU: CharacterasShortcut why it is not there? :((( Very strange. it seems this removed them: Name: Keymapping-Shortcuts-GuillermoPolito.67 Author:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
Okay.. got it in 2.0. WOW That's amazing A functional text editor... TxTextMorph exampleCenteredText I love you , Denis! :) (will leave hate for later, when i go see how you implemented it ;) On 28 April 2013 16:44, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Tried to load in

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 April 2013 16:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Tried to load in Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30068 Got MNU: CharacterasShortcut why it is not there? :((( Very strange. it seems this removed them:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 April 2013 16:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Tried to load in Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30068 Got MNU: CharacterasShortcut

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Nicolas Cellier wrote What I find strange: - #hash uses the offset... Why ??? Maybe because of this: http://forum.world.st/true-hash-tp4621497p4624623.html which you fixed here: See http://forum.world.st/true-hash-tp4621497p4624706.html -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Denis Kudriashov wrote My main idea is make clean and extendible text editor. So anybody can understand how layout built, where text insertion happens, how it processed, how cursor works and etc. I want text editor which is not required hacks to simple tasks like allow only numbers, hide

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Yes, this was valid when jdn, seconds and nanos where maintained in local time... 2013/4/28 Paul DeBruicker pdebr...@gmail.com Nicolas Cellier wrote What I find strange: - #hash uses the offset... Why ??? Maybe because of this: http://forum.world.st/true-hash-tp4621497p4624623.html

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Erwan Douaille douailleer...@gmail.com wrote: +1 with the pharo image launcher it will be usefull. no, I disagree. The .sources will be provided with the launcher itself. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On Ubuntu with the new ppa, they seem to be installed automatically. they are. Nobody should care about these files anymore (except us to get rid of them :-)) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

[Pharo-project] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-04-28 Thread no-reply
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/./label=linux/90/ 8 regressions found. HelpSystem.Tests.Builders.ClassAPIHelpBuilderTest.testBuildingTraits HelpSystem.Tests.Builders.ClassAPIHelpBuilderTest.testDefaultBuilding

[Pharo-project] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-04-28 Thread no-reply
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/./label=mac/90/ 8 regressions found. HelpSystem.Tests.Builders.ClassAPIHelpBuilderTest.testBuildingTraits HelpSystem.Tests.Builders.ClassAPIHelpBuilderTest.testDefaultBuilding

[Pharo-project] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-04-28 Thread no-reply
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/./label=win/90/ 8 regressions found. HelpSystem.Tests.Builders.ClassAPIHelpBuilderTest.testBuildingTraits HelpSystem.Tests.Builders.ClassAPIHelpBuilderTest.testDefaultBuilding

[Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30069

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
30069 - 10423 simplify #firstPrecodeCommentFor: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10423 10426 move #parseSelector to Compiler https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10426 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/Pharo30/diff/Traits-MarcusDenker.481

Re: [Pharo-project] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-04-28 Thread Marcus Denker
yes, I will fix them… refactoring code related to the compiler API... - #comment on CompiledMethod is now using the AST and something is not working - #compiler is Missing on PseudoClass (Ring, too). Marcus On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:31 PM, no-re...@ci.inria.fr wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
I upload new version 0.7: - clipboard operations - more navigation shortcuts - fixed bugs when editing text from start or end text positions - optimized text drawing to draw only visible lines - optimized TxIntervalcontains:. So now #newTextContents: works on big strings With this version I again

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org missing .sources download

2013-04-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Apr 2013, at 19:12, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On Ubuntu with the new ppa, they seem to be installed automatically. they are. Nobody should care about these files anymore (except us to get

[Pharo-project] Why keymap modifiers change receiver instead of return new instance?

2013-04-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hello. I found this: shortcut := $a ctrl. self assert: shortcut == shortcut shift Why modifiers change receiver state instead of create new instance? To me it is very bad unexpected behaviour. There is another example: shortcut := $a ctrl. self assert: shortcut == (KMModifier shift +

Re: [Pharo-project] Why keymap modifiers change receiver instead of return new instance?

2013-04-28 Thread Guillermo Polito
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.comwrote: Hello. I found this: shortcut := $a ctrl. self assert: shortcut == shortcut shift Why modifiers change receiver state instead of create new instance? To me it is very bad unexpected behaviour. Hmm, I really

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 April 2013 19:47, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: I upload new version 0.7: - clipboard operations - more navigation shortcuts - fixed bugs when editing text from start or end text positions - optimized text drawing to draw only visible lines - optimized

Re: [Pharo-project] Why keymap modifiers change receiver instead of return new instance?

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 April 2013 20:08, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I found this: shortcut := $a ctrl. self assert: shortcut == shortcut shift Why modifiers change receiver state instead of

[Pharo-project] ssl fails on build CI

2013-04-28 Thread Max Leske
The FileSystem-Git builds on CI generate many test failures because the SSL plugin is missing (apparently) here's the output:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi denis Alain is gone on vacation but it told me that if you code scale he will throw away what he did :) May be the decorators that alain wrote can be merged. In any case this is excellent to get a better system. Yes. This is why I work on this project. But my first proposals was

Re: [Pharo-project] ssl fails on build CI

2013-04-28 Thread Max Leske
I just discovered that this only affects Pharo20 builds and older Pharo30 On 28.04.2013, at 21:07, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: The FileSystem-Git builds on CI generate many test failures because the SSL plugin is missing (apparently) here's the output:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread philippe.b...@highoctane.be
Like that sound! #cash Le 28 avr. 2013 21:09, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr a écrit : Hi denis Alain is gone on vacation but it told me that if you code scale he will throw away what he did :) May be the decorators that alain wrote can be merged. In any case this is excellent

Re: [Pharo-project] Why keymap modifiers change receiver instead of return new instance?

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Hello. I found this: shortcut := $a ctrl. self assert: shortcut == shortcut shift Why modifiers change receiver state instead of create new instance? I can understand since they modify the shortcut. To me it is very bad unexpected behaviour. Why? There is another example:

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Igor could you review the changes of nicolas - I was planning to do it now but I'm dead so I will do it but with half of my mind. Because may be this is better to integrate his changes then do another pass friday. Stef On Apr 28, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30069

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
We should really ask nicolas to check why the diff is broken because it was really nice to be able to follow changes. Stef On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30069 - 10423 simplify #firstPrecodeCommentFor:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: I upload new version 0.7: - clipboard operations - more navigation shortcuts - fixed bugs when editing text from start or end text positions - optimized text drawing to draw only visible lines - optimized

Re: [Pharo-project] Why keymap modifiers change receiver instead of return new instance?

2013-04-28 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2013/4/28 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr Hello. I found this: shortcut := $a ctrl. self assert: shortcut == shortcut shift Why modifiers change receiver state instead of create new instance? I can understand since they modify the shortcut. To me it is very bad

Re: [Pharo-project] Why keymap modifiers change receiver instead of return new instance?

2013-04-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks for the explanation but I do not get it Because shortcut1 := $a ctrl. shortcut2 := $a ctrl shift created different shortcuts. I thought you wanted the inverse: You wrote: Why modifiers change receiver state instead of create new instance? And it is fully unexpected that I

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Nicolas I read all the slice and I like it (even if they are place where I do not get fully it :). I'm dead. So may be this is obvious but I do not understand the or: logic If the seconds is negative I do not understand what is happening. normalizeSecondsAndNanos (NanosInSecond = nanos

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread Nicolas Cellier
\\ returns a positive remainder. example: -1 \\ 86400 - 86399 -1 // 86400 - -1 So the jdn is decremented and seconds are correctly normalized. 2013/4/28 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr Nicolas I read all the slice and I like it (even if they are place where I do not get fully

Re: [Pharo-project] Why keymap modifiers change receiver instead of return new instance?

2013-04-28 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Yes evil mutations! Let's ban these 2013/4/28 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Thanks for the explanation but I do not get it Because shortcut1 := $a ctrl. shortcut2 := $a ctrl shift created different shortcuts. I thought you wanted the inverse: You wrote: Why modifiers

Re: [Pharo-project] ssl fails on build CI

2013-04-28 Thread Camillo Bruni
fixed it: aptitude install libssl0.9.8:i386 On 2013-04-28, at 21:17, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: I just discovered that this only affects Pharo20 builds and older Pharo30 On 28.04.2013, at 21:07, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: The FileSystem-Git builds on CI generate many test

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30069

2013-04-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
stephane ducasse wrote We should really ask nicolas to check why the diff is broken I mentioned a few times that it seems that it fails when none of the package version's ancestors are present on stub. e.g. from http://forum.world.st/update-3-0-30024-td4680178.html,

Re: [Pharo-project] ssl fails on build CI

2013-04-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
what you think shall we retarget linux VM to build with newer ssl version? On 28 April 2013 23:30, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: fixed it: aptitude install libssl0.9.8:i386 On 2013-04-28, at 21:17, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: I just discovered that this only affects

Re: [Pharo-project] ssl fails on build CI

2013-04-28 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-04-29, at 00:21, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: what you think shall we retarget linux VM to build with newer ssl version? that's gonna be the same mess again and we do not care for the slaves as we manage them by ourselves. for user-level experience we have to advocate the deb

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 3.1 meeting

2013-04-28 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sure, point the way. Where does Penelope live? gforge? How do you debug/update the running version? On Apr 26, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 [via Smalltalk] ml-node+s1294792n4683726...@n4.nabble.com wrote: Penelope code as well as Ulysse one is on smalltalkhub/~Pharo/ci/main

Re: [Pharo-project] ssl fails on build CI

2013-04-28 Thread Max Leske
Thanks! On 29.04.2013, at 00:28, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-04-29, at 00:21, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: what you think shall we retarget linux VM to build with newer ssl version? that's gonna be the same mess again and we do not care for the slaves as

Re: [Pharo-project] [FYI] Athens tutorial

2013-04-28 Thread Mariano Vicente
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: i just committed new version , which now should work. (but you will still have an error if you try to use surface saved in previous session). so you need to create a new one before continuing. ​Yes, it works. Thank

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: \\ returns a positive remainder. example: -1 \\ 86400 - 86399 -1 // 86400 - -1 Yes I saw that and now I realized I understand it. But funnily I did not notice the difference between the use of // and

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30069

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: stephane ducasse wrote We should really ask nicolas to check why the diff is broken I mentioned a few times that it seems that it fails when none of the package version's ancestors are present on stub. e.g. from