, each time process is going to terminate, it can
notify all interesting parties of such event.
Then, instead of using #ensure: to free critical system resources, one
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As you can see, there is more questions than answers :)
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I just subscribed and want to say hello to this list. :)
At ESUG we discussed with Stephane and Markus some things in Squeak
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Welcome, Igor!
Would you also be interested to help maintain the VM? Recently on this
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we've discussed whether it would make sense to have our own
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Currently, i using squeak-dev or vm-dev mailing list for news
announcements.
I asked community, maybe it is OT, but nobody complained about it,
instead they want it there. :)
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can be used as a kind of
make utility.
But i think, to fully replace makefiles, it needs an OSProcessPlugin
to be able to interact with OS/shell.
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As always, things not working out of the box.
- VM builds from unzipped VM sources OK
- but for building with VMMaker generated sources, had to fix 'gnuify'
file to make a clean build
i dreaming to build vm straight from squeak, without horrid
btw, after changing the title font of system window, corner grips
AGAIN positioned badly.
I thought it was fixed long ago...
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I done with it.
The resulting VM will not start without freetype.dll.
Should i link it statically? But then you should hone
+
blablabla?
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As always, things not working out of the box.
- VM builds from unzipped VM sources OK
- but for building with VMMaker generated sources, had to fix 'gnuify'
file to make a clean build
i dreaming
can put the stuff + instructions +
blablabla?
You can use the code google page for that.
Stef
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As always, things not working out of the box.
- VM builds from unzipped VM sources OK
- but for building
put a pre-built VM, or do any
upload. I doubt that pharo inbox at squeaksource is appropriate place
for VM binaries.
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the uploads
done.
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Okay, who wants the VM? And where i can put the stuff + instructions +
blablabla?
You can use the code google page for that.
Can
ohh... a small correction.
Not #hasDisplay, but #hasDisplays.
Which is conceptually VERY important!
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ohh... a small correction.
Not #hasDisplay, but #hasDisplays.
Which is conceptually VERY important!
And Ffenestri provides support for that. We actually have something running
(sort of ;-) ) that opens multiple native
I uploaded the binaries + freetype plugin platform sources under
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https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299
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I uploaded the binaries + freetype plugin platform sources under
squeak VM + freetype cat:
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299
Cool.
The FreeType plugin seems
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this sounds interesting.
But I think that this is important to still be able to not rely on
external
libraries when you want.
so what is the exact
I rebuilt VM with changeset uploaded it replacing old .zip.
FreeTypeSettings current
clearBitBltSubPixelAvailable;
bitBltSubPixelAvailable
prints: true
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it will be much easier than on windows.
Stef
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Thing was even easier than i first thought.
I installed the changesets from here:
ftp://ftp.smalltalkconsulting.com/experimental/Ffenestri/
Ffenestri-b-2-WindowProxies.3.cs
Ffenestri-b-3-MultiHostWindows
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I see no real usage of #caseOf: or #caseOf:otherwise: in Pharo - just
in single place (ProcessBrowser).
However, i see a multiple places in Croquet image where it is used
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initialization, and then destroy this
window and create a normal main window (if its required).
Of course this will be possible only when all windowing could be
controlled by language side through HostWindowPlugin, which i proposed
earlier, not by VM like currently :)
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I would really like if Pharo will introduce a convention for tidying
up the image, proposed by Keith.
It could save a lot of time and nerves for developers/maintainers :)
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Bryce, are you plan to build a windoze VM as well?
Eventually, or ask for one to be built, and I'll need a Mac VM as
well. But I've neither a Windows or Mac build environment here, and it
could be a while before I set them up.
If you've
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at any moment without subclassing or writing
methods.
In vanilla image, we need only a single method, which can populate a
default tool set.
Also note, i'm not using a ToolSet class, i think 'Smalltalk tools' or
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just my 2p
thanks
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I'm implemented a new ToolRegistry class, which can work as
replacement of ToolSet.
It would require a 'bit' refactoring, to replace all references to
'ToolSet' with 'Smalltalk tools
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when interpreter enters the method? Or, if nothing, then why they
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What you'll never see in new plugin:
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On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 01:47:26PM +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Hello list,
i started design of new plugin, which is conceptually based on
HostWindows, but will be more integral flexible.
...
Awaiting for your comments or suggestions.
I tried
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Oh, that's the bits i'm missing. I found the sources of
HostWindowPlugin for win and mac, but
was unable to find anything for X11. Can you
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- ifNotNilDo: calls renamed to ifNotNil:
does it means that #ifNotNil: now accepts monadic blocks?
If yes
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someone would want to load both A and B packages, their overrides will
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Some of my observations of glitches found:
- open world menu System-About. Now instead of clicking Ok, try drag
the window. Leads to DNU when you release a mouse button.
thanks.
I may
, that event handling code is born from multiple
waves and being modified by different developers. And i'm appreciate
their efforts, because despite the design it works!
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As you understand, this is only a tip of the iceberg.
It is really scary piece of system, each time i'm looking at it,
something tells me - hey pal, leave this stuff and never look at it
again :)
Tell me about it.
I have
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Instead, i suggest that events should go in different route:
EventSensor - HostWindow instance - subscriber(s).
A subscriber model is part of my design, allowing for pluggable event
architectures actually. I'm not going
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Let us know Igor, this triggered my curiosity.
Alexandre
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Looks like the bug is VM/platform dependent, or you gave me wrong image?.
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Let us know Igor, this triggered my curiosity.
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Good luck
Actually, I dont know where to start, I cant open a window or interrupt the
vm.
Hmm, an image, which you just sent me (10157ready.image), starts
without any problems on my windoze box. No 100
package browser
pretends its not (it can't browse a class by its name, nor package).
I forced it to appear only after adding package manually by issuing
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What you think is the best way for reporting such events?
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package browser.
Could you check if this is the case in your image?
That's the problem, its not visible anywhere, even in 'unpackaged' package!
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hostWindow on: #resize do: [ ... ]
or using
hostWindow addDependant: subscriber
(but dependants protocol can't differentiate the event type :( )
or something else.
Any suggestions?
Regards, Gary.
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of that world would
probably be an appropriate responder to such events.
That's fine. But its only in scope of Morphic.
But i want to make a generic interface for HostWindows, which should
not rely on any framework which may use them.
Regards, Gary.
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a notion of
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Okay, i'll try to make it in own way and then put it on the desk for
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If i remember correctly, an interrupt semaphore is used to awake a
process which watching for interrupts.
And indeed, when key combination matching an interrupt key code,
it calls setInterruptPending(), which
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Process which making calls to primitive and fetching events from VM -
obviously the event ticker process. The rest processes should be
allowed to talk with Sensor only through shared queue.
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Hello David,
Today i took a look at the unix port of squeak, where it deals with
host windows.. ouch!!
The main file - sqUnixX11.c is a big bloat of C code , which tries to
deal
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I just loaded your changeset and have something to report :)
It looks like it having bigger poll periods than old sensor, or works slower.
An overall performance feels a bit more sluggish comparing to old
implementation.
Just open a window
Here the further changes to fix above.
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I just loaded your changeset and have something to report :)
It looks like it having bigger poll periods than old sensor, or works
slower.
An overall
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Just for fun :)
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:)
May be with a large truck and bulldozer :)
Will in a post-nuclear world Pharo still be there? :)
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2008/11/27 Damien Cassou [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/11845/pharo0.1-10178dev08.11.7.zip
Funny thing. When i start this image on windowz, it asks me 2 times
to
insert a disc in a drive, before showing a main
) could be added to some
plugin,
rather than using FFI, but hasn't yet.
s/some plugin/freetype plugin
:)
Or make it a general purpose thing in the VM
i don't think that font path is too general to be in VM.
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: 'MyPlugin.dll') nextPutAll: HackyClass
pluginBinaryFile.
now, all i left to do is to call primitive:
HackyClassdoNastyThings
primitive: 'nasty' module: 'MyPlugin.dll'
does this example makes any difference now, whether you have FFI or not? :)
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2008/11/30 Michael Rueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Igor Stasenko wrote:
and besides:
VMs is packaged with FFI as dynamic library.
So, if you want extra safety - simply don't shipp your application
with this DLL.
But still, if you allow arbitrary code to run in your image, then what
prevents
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