Re: [Pharo-project] Reintegration of StringSocket

2008-06-13 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: sure can you publish it somewhere? Stef On Jun 13, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: Hi, StringSocket is a class part of Nebraska. You removed that class. However, Universe uses this class to publish packages. Is it possible to reintegrate this class, at least

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo website proposal

2008-07-08 Thread Michael Rueger
Samuel MORELLO wrote: No soucy. I will send everythings in PDF/Illustrator format so it can be resize easily. I also want to create a keynote template. Could be helpful to set up a subversion repository for the artwork etc. Michael ___

Re: [Pharo-project] Pango support

2008-07-19 Thread Michael Rueger
Serge Stinckwich wrote: There is a Pango support in recent OLPC Squeak VM : http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-June/002433.html Pango is a rendering text with a strong emphasis on internationalization : http://www.pango.org/ScriptGallery Maybe something to add in future Pharo releases

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with July release

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Rueger
Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi Damien, It looks like a MC load problem because the method was moved from a method extension from the EToys package into the Morph package when it was changed due to a patch. Also in my image that I built from the update stream the method was lost although the

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

2008-07-29 Thread Michael Rueger
Keith Hodges wrote: The ultimate aim here, is to be able to hand a rio as a parameter into a tool, and that tool should be able to read and write to the file represented by the rio, irrespective of whether that rio represents a remote file, a gziped file or a file within a zip file. Its

Re: [Pharo-project] ugly code related to files management

2008-07-30 Thread Michael Rueger
Alexandre Bergel wrote: While browsing at referencer of FileDoesNotExistException, I discovered the following pattern that is used in many different places. I find this pretty ugly: I think the pattern is a result of me basically keeping the original method structure/pattern when rewriting

Re: [Pharo-project] About file.... (argh)

2008-08-01 Thread Michael Rueger
Lukas Renggli wrote: Taking an idea from (L)GPL code forces you to use (L)GPL for your code as well. See the recent discussions (mess) in the Squeak and Swazoo mailing-lists. The exact meaning of taking an idea depends on the interpretation. Some people argue that only reading (L)GPL code makes

Re: {Spam?} [Pharo-project] [Update] 10055 + new release

2008-08-15 Thread Michael Rueger
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Bill Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the answer is probably to pass the *class* of the exception. The default then simply sends the correct #signalWith: message with the file name as an argument. Hmm, but the instance might hold additional information.

Re: [Pharo-project] A thought about Morphic and Seaside

2008-08-18 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: No this is not. You should try to chase your pointers to the objects that you suspect not to be gced (pointerfinder should help for that). in my experience there are a few (or maybe just one) location(s) that pointerfinder doesn't find. We had the occasional problems

Re: [Pharo-project] Discussion summary and milestones

2008-08-31 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: It means that we should then produce our own VMs I imagine. So what are the plans there? Knowing that I'm touching flame bait here, but how is the general consensus on continuing to use VMMaker and Slang for generating VMs? Alternatives could be pure C code and/or

Re: [Pharo-project] Discussion summary and milestones

2008-09-01 Thread Michael Rueger
Gary Chambers wrote: Would be nice to replace the Balloon engine with Cario sometime... Did you take a look at the Rome stuff? It has a Cairo and a Balloon subclass, so you can switch the rendering backend without affecting the API. Michael ___

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about Pharo and Multimedia

2008-09-04 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Normally you should be able to load into pharo 3.9 or 3.8 code. Now since nobody cared for a long time on Movies I do not know the status of such a code. The native Squeak movie code is very outdated and supports only a very peculiar mpg.1 video format. So for the

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugging aids

2008-09-05 Thread Michael Rueger
Bill Schwab wrote: Hello all, Random thoughts/wishes: The UI discussion reminded me of a couple of things. Squeak appears to overwrite its debug log; minimally, I think there should be an option to append, and it probably should default to true. Many times, I've had I'd rather have time

Re: [Pharo-project] Throwing out the windowing support from core VM features

2008-09-13 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: ohh... a small correction. Not #hasDisplay, but #hasDisplays. Which is conceptually VERY important! And Ffenestri provides support for that. We actually have something running (sort of ;-) ) that opens multiple native windows based on ffenestri. I'm all for factoring

Re: [Pharo-project] Thinking about Pharo distribution

2008-09-15 Thread Michael Rueger
Damien Cassou wrote: Hi, I've just started writing a wiki page which details the packages we plan to install in all Pharo distributions. In the Universe, the All or developer? meta-package 'Pharo packages' permit easy installation of these packages. The wiki page is at:

Re: [Pharo-project] Thinking about Pharo distribution

2008-09-15 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: I think it is *extremely* important to only have one download. hmm, yes and no. Wasn't one of the longer term goals of Pharo to provide a small as possible core image on which everything else can be bootstrapped? Michael ___

Re: [Pharo-project] Thinking about Pharo distribution

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Rueger
Damien Cassou wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that we should make it clear what to start with (obviously the dev distribution). The list of packages seems ok to me, except for Regex. What is your problem with Regex? See, that was

Re: [Pharo-project] Image size

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: There is more code for cleaning in the cleaning category of ScriptLoader. #initialCleanup and #finalCleanup. (we should merge the code above in the cleanup methods) There is also some code in the ReleaseBuilder classes. It would be good IMHO to have one location to put

Re: [Pharo-project] Image size

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Is there a reason why the cleanup code resides in ScriptLoader? No. -- But where you will put it? Should have read all the mails first ;-) ReleaseBuilder Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] Image size

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: ScriptLoader is also such releaseBuilder guy. I know well releaseBuilder :) so I guess we should unify the two? Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Copyright inside one click is strange

2008-09-20 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: Licensed under the MIT License with parts under the Apache License. That would actually be the correct License, as Pharo, as are all other projects *images* based on Squeak, is not entirely MIT. Michael ___ Pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Sophie in Java

2008-09-23 Thread Michael Rueger
Janko Mivšek wrote: Terrible indeed! And please, put the names of that guys in public, so that we will know in the future, who to avoid for all costs. Because this company is made out of people... well, yes. But I must really defend the little guys here, all very smart kids from the

Re: [Pharo-project] On Win32 metrics

2008-09-30 Thread Michael Rueger
Bill Schwab wrote: Does Pharo already expose the needed information? All I found was 'NT' The cleanest way do to it is to use the FileLocations package that we use in Sophie. It makes system calls to find out all the interesting locations. Tweak uses a class called CPlatform and

Re: [Pharo-project] Formalised UI

2008-10-02 Thread Michael Rueger
Gary Chambers wrote: Just some thoughts picked up over the years. Things that all Morphs should have, at least, defaults for... UI States: how does this list compare to the list of possible CSS states? Transitions would be nice, but might be a bit overboard... Igor and I discussed a

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Removing default fonts

2008-10-20 Thread Michael Rueger
Antony Blakey wrote: On 20/10/2008, at 10:48 AM, John M McIntosh wrote: Well for one thing it requires then implementing the freetype plugin on the iPhone, so it's a barrier to entry for VM developers who are dealing with platforms that may or may not have freetype on them to enable the

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Removing default fonts

2008-10-20 Thread Michael Rueger
Antony Blakey wrote: On 20/10/2008, at 7:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd vote for the latter too, imagine you want to do a quick VM experiment and you're not used to building VMs for that platform. But is that a good enough reason to retain all of the other font

Re: [Pharo-project] squeak sites not available

2008-10-21 Thread Michael Rueger
Lukas Renggli wrote: Is there a way to mirror the squeaksource repository? Or any squeaksource server? Also this is not related to the issues discussed here (squeaksource.com is running), it can be easily done using wget or a similar tool. For example to mirror the Seaside 2.9 repository:

Re: [Pharo-project] ToolSet

2008-10-28 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: Sometimes you want to stub out a tools to make them inaccessible. Or replace them with different ones. For instance, one would like to redirect Transcript output to file, or suppress debugger / browser / inspector. The proposed solution is more a symptom fix than a real

Re: [Pharo-project] HostWindows rewrite

2008-11-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: 2008/11/9 Michael Rueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Igor Stasenko wrote: Hello list, i started design of new plugin, which is conceptually based on HostWindows, but will be more integral flexible. What about ffenestri? i currently taking parts from it as well as parts from

Re: [Pharo-project] Exploring an event handling implementation

2008-11-15 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: As you understand, this is only a tip of the iceberg. It is really scary piece of system, each time i'm looking at it, something tells me - hey pal, leave this stuff and never look at it again :) Tell me about it. I have something 80% finished, hope to have it ready for

Re: [Pharo-project] Exploring an event handling implementation

2008-11-15 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: I'm ok with it. What i hate to see is the countless places dealing with bare bones instead of single place which converts this stuff into a nice wrappings with simple and understandable behavior/protocol - so you can easily extract any bit of information from event in human

[Pharo-project] Event history question

2008-11-19 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, the event handling rewrite slowly starts to work :-) I'm currently fighting the parts where polling is used (like moving a window), but more on that later. The question I have is about user interrupt handling. I'm a bit confused and don't remember the history there: was there first

Re: [Pharo-project] Event history question

2008-11-19 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: If i remember correctly, an interrupt semaphore is used to awake a process which watching for interrupts. And indeed, when key combination matching an interrupt key code, it calls setInterruptPending(), which is then eventually leads to signaling a semaphore which

[Pharo-project] Event rewrite

2008-11-21 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, after wrapping the current implementation which I test and packaged in the experimental polymorph image I tried to install it in the newest Pharo image and it doesn't work (freezes). Anyone a suggestion what might have changed in the area of event handling or process management? I

Re: [Pharo-project] Event rewrite

2008-11-21 Thread Michael Rueger
Michael Rueger wrote: Hi all, after wrapping the current implementation which I test and packaged in the experimental polymorph image I tried to install it in the newest Pharo image and it doesn't work (freezes). It actually doesn't freeze but seems to hang in a delay in WorldState... alt

Re: [Pharo-project] New sensor code

2008-11-22 Thread Michael Rueger
Michael Rueger wrote: So one of the next things I will try to do is get Miro loaded into Morphic and also my ySqueak (formerly iSqueak) framework. But the latter into Pharo of course Need...more...caffeine Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing

Re: [Pharo-project] New sensor code

2008-11-22 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: A next stage, would be to refactor MorphicEvent subclasses and move them into category Kernel-Events and then change EventSensor to convert raw events into nice XXXEvent instances, so the rest of image wouldn't have to deal with raw event buffers anymore. Yes, although a

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10173-10176 Polymorph

2008-11-27 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, Polymorph is in! 10176 has not yet the fixes of pharo from yesterday/today, these will come with the next update trying to update from 164 runs into an emergency evaluator DNU UITheme current (I think). I'm on Windows, if that makes any difference. Michael

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10173-10176 Polymorph

2008-11-27 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: Works here. (checked again). One thing is to not have windows open (works with the two workspaces of the prebuilt image). Had a transcript open, will try again. Thanks Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10173-10176 Polymorph

2008-11-27 Thread Michael Rueger
Michael Rueger wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: Works here. (checked again). One thing is to not have windows open (works with the two workspaces of the prebuilt image). Had a transcript open, will try again. did work with without windows open :-) Michael

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI inside Pharo ?

2008-11-29 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: I personally think that a good FFI is base fuctionality, e.g. it allows to move glue-code into the image that normally would be in primitives. The problem with FFI (and Alien) is that by using FFI and thus having the FFI plugin installed you completely circumvent any

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI inside Pharo ?

2008-11-30 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: and besides: VMs is packaged with FFI as dynamic library. So, if you want extra safety - simply don't shipp your application with this DLL. But still, if you allow arbitrary code to run in your image, then what prevents script kiddie from doing following: the sandbox does

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Etoys] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0

2008-12-19 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, did we agree whether to make sure Pharo 1.0 is license clean as well? Just can't remember... Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] On not unnecessarily closing down the language

2008-12-24 Thread Michael Rueger
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:58 AM, br...@kampjes.demon.co.uk wrote: This is a language design point. Is the convenience of knowing that an argument is never modified worth more than the convenience of being able to modify the argument? What really is the convenience of modifying an argument?

Re: [Pharo-project] On not unnecessarily closing down the language

2008-12-24 Thread Michael Rueger
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Keith Hodges keith_hod...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I am not saying that the smalltalk conventions are bad, what I am saying is that the flexibility to break the conventions is useful in OTHER CONTEXTS, and in many ways makes it possible to have other use cases in

[Pharo-project] Splitting network package

2009-01-08 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, while working on some unicode related stuff I ended up integrating some MIME changes from Sophie. For that I would like to split up the Network package into nine sub packages (Network-Kernel, Network-MIME, ...). Will also make it easier to update URI and MIME packages later etc. Hope

Re: [Pharo-project] Splitting network package

2009-01-08 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, updated MIME, URI and File packages in inbox. Some of the URI related changes are somewhat incomplete as I merged them from a different context. Hopefully I didn't break anything though :-) With merges like this it is really a problem that MC doesn't allow cherry picking changes...

[Pharo-project] Platform class

2009-01-08 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, in Tweak there is a hierarchy of CPlatform classes (CPlatformWindows etc) that provide a central place to add platform specific requests and avoid having the current platform detection code all over the system So instead of coding ExternalClipboardinterfaceClass with all the gory

Re: [Pharo-project] Splitting network package

2009-01-08 Thread Michael Rueger
Bill Schwab wrote: Michael, It might be nice to involve the cryptography maintainers; their work could probably just add onto the structure you create. Great suggestion! Will do Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list

Re: [Pharo-project] Platform class

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I like that I really think that we need to have infrastructure support to control the complexity. I like the OBPlatform idea. After the question is how much layers do we need. I imagine that we should not have that much one this is well done. Does the Platform

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10205

2009-01-13 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Next - category as packages collections level two - mike network refactoring (I hope it loads). One problem with the network refactoring is that it moves classes between packages and thus needs to be loaded from a configuration map. I tried

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10205

2009-01-13 Thread Michael Rueger
Keith Hodges wrote: Michael Rueger wrote: I dont see that the following follows. and thus needs to be loaded from a configuration map. Option 1, Atomic loading. Available in MC1.5/6 as an option that can be enabled. hmm, we don't have MC 1.5 in Pharo yet, or did I miss that? I tried

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10205

2009-01-13 Thread Michael Rueger
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Because it loads one package after the other. Usually the right load order fixes the problem, but in this case loading stops working because crucial classes go missing during loading. which only shows that code stinks

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo name conflict

2009-01-15 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi David, yes, that is unfortunate that we chose the same name around the same time and both projects are already well known enough to not easily switch names. But, as others already said, the projects are sufficiently different to not be confused easily. Maybe we could cross-link on the sites?

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo name conflict

2009-01-15 Thread Michael Rueger
Damien Cassou wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Michael Rueger m.rue...@acm.org wrote: yes, that is unfortunate that we chose the same name around the same time and both projects are already well known enough to not easily switch names. But, as others already said, the projects

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo name conflict

2009-01-15 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: we keep it :) I think Damien was referring to the cross link :-) Michael yes, that is unfortunate that we chose the same name around the same time and both projects are already well known enough to not easily switch names. But, as others already said, the projects

Re: [Pharo-project] AlignementMorphBob1 removed

2009-01-15 Thread Michael Rueger
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: remove AlignmentMorphBob1 YES, a dream come true ;-) michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

[Pharo-project] Plugin organization

2009-01-21 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, while working on a new (Open)Sophie release I ran into the problem of where to put some plugin code. In this case it is for the Curl Plugin, which Steven Riggins ported into Sophie, but the problem is pretty common I would guess. So the problem is this (as illustrated using our Curl

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

2009-01-26 Thread Michael Rueger
br...@kampjes.demon.co.uk wrote: Why not just add the plugin's to the VMMaker package? I don't see any gain for having another official plugin package besides VMMaker. It'll have the main problem and advantage of VMMaker of central ownership. That's not what I suggested, just a naming

Re: [Pharo-project] Using pharo in a course?

2009-01-29 Thread Michael Rueger
Gary Chambers wrote: nicer UI ( ;-) )... Never underestimate the repulsive (or is it revolting? ;-) ) effect of the original Squeak UI on beginners... Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

[Pharo-project] Character and binary streams

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, while working on the unicode cleanup I ran into the current implementation of CharacterstoreBinaryOn: aStream Store the receiver on a binary (file) stream value 256 ifTrue:[aStream basicNextPut: self] ifFalse:[Stream nextInt32Put: value].

Re: [Pharo-project] newDelta 0 failed in sqUnixMemory

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Rueger
Provoost, P (Paul) wrote: I have the same problem when compiling the vm on OpenSolaris 2008-11 using the SUN compilers. So please do some more testing with the 4.3.2. version, after all we cannot stick to old compilers, can we? Some VM maintainers can ;-) Windows is still officially compiled

Re: [Pharo-project] newDelta 0 failed in sqUnixMemory

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Rueger
Michael Rueger wrote: Provoost, P (Paul) wrote: I have the same problem when compiling the vm on OpenSolaris 2008-11 using the SUN compilers. So please do some more testing with the 4.3.2. version, after all we cannot stick to old compilers, can we? Some VM maintainers can ;-) Windows

[Pharo-project] Multilingual tests

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, are there any other tests available for the Multilingual stuff other than MultilingualTests-TextConversion? Would like to avoid re-inventing the wheel... Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Rueger
br...@kampjes.demon.co.uk wrote: But Monticello packages are just a naming scheme. yes and no. A package is defined using the name and string matching, but a package is a package. Your statement: That would also allow to simply load all plugins into a VMMaker image by using a package

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: so what are the organizations we can use? Ideally I would like to have the test associated with their packages. XXX XXXTests The problem with that naming scheme is that then the tests would always be loaded together with their tests because of the simple string

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Rueger
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Adrian Lienhard a...@netstyle.ch wrote: On my machine I get: Squeak 3.9: 3800ms Pharo #084: 2950ms Pharo #213: 5200ms #084 is before Polymorph was added and #213 is the most recent version. BTW, with OB: 8590ms. ouch... any obvious hotspots? Michael

Re: [Pharo-project] a couple of issues

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Rueger
Damien Cassou wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: - Why is mouse swap preference not enabled by default? yes it should :) Not sure because this will annoy users of MS Windows. so what mouse button mappings do we want on each platform

Re: [Pharo-project] Download not working

2009-02-05 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: I changed the link to use http, not https. And I linked to 218. Thanks, that works now! Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] prebuild image #10231

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/17057/Pharo0.1Core-10231.zip Wouldn't it make sense to set the display to little endian rather than big endian with all those intel machines out there? Michael ___ Pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] MIME Bug in 10229

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: When you drag and drop a cs file you get a DN callGetMimeTypeOrNilForFileExtension: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=510 attached a fix there. Disabled the Mac specific part for now as the default Pharo image does not have FFI included. Should be

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Does not work here. My system is LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 My keyboard keying is us_intl, (accented character are composed), this set up is used to work with standard pharo and ecoding to latin1 Are you using ubuntu? I have a hard time setting up the keyboard for

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Lukas Renggli wrote: It is the pharo one click with a modified (slightly outdated) image and an updated Unix VM. The one-click thing does not work on my Mac, nothing happens. I can open the image with another VM though. Is this a special VM that comes with the one-click image? I might

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Chris Kassopulo wrote: On linux pasting ä or é from that same webpage gives Error: Invalid utf8 input detected That's probably due to the left-over encoding setting in Pharo.sh. The encoding line needs to be removed. How do I input those characters from the keyboard? You need to switch to

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Michael Rueger wrote: Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Does not work here. My system is LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 My keyboard keying is us_intl, (accented character are composed), this set up is used to work with standard pharo and ecoding to latin1 In the workspace when I type in 'e, I get e? I simply

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: what is not very convenient is that copy/paste (as well as the rest of keyboard shortcuts ) is not working when keyboard layout not english. You mean you are typing the equivalent of alt-c etc on the Russian keyboard/layout? Or how do the ASCII short cuts map? Didn't

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Rueger
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/9 Michael Rueger m.rue...@acm.org: Igor Stasenko wrote: I think that shortcuts should be bound to meta-keys (or hardware key scan code), so then regardless of keyboard layout, pressing alt-c should be understood

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

2009-02-10 Thread Michael Rueger
contains the tests for the canvas implementation. * Seaside-Tests-Squeak-Canvas contains the platform specific tests of the canvas implementation. On Jan 30, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 15:33 , Michael Rueger wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote: so what

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

2009-02-10 Thread Michael Rueger
Alexandre Bergel wrote: nonono ;-) See earlier mails in this thread, this way you end up with the tests stored in the core package because e.g. Collections-Kernel also matches Collections-Kernel-Tests. Is it a bad thing? beReadyToShot To that extend, I was wondering why we have the

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

2009-02-10 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: nonono ;-) See earlier mails in this thread, this way you end up with the tests stored in the core package because e.g. Collections-Kernel also matches Collections-Kernel-Tests. but if Collections-Kernel-Tests

Re: [Pharo-project] Plugin organization

2009-02-10 Thread Michael Rueger
Adrian Lienhard wrote: KernelDropTests). Michael, what would you suggest as a scheme? How about the following solution I suggested in a previous mail? IIRC that was exactly what I suggested as well :-) So I'm all for it :-) Michael Kernel-Numbers Kernel-Traits Kernel-Compiler ...

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-11 Thread Michael Rueger
John M McIntosh wrote: Where is this set? http://smalltalkconsulting.com/html/squeakinfoplist.html SqueakEncodingType Ah, thanks! If you put a transcript show of the event buffer into the handleKeyboard logic you can see that slot six is nil on meta keys. meta-keys not sure what

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-11 Thread Michael Rueger
Michael Rueger wrote: Well that *is* the extended clipboard support. Just need the smalltalk code to make the proper primitive calls to the extended clipboard plugin. You need the ClipboardExtendedPlugin.bundle Hmm, you still need FFI despite the plugin: readUTF8StringClipboardData

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-12 Thread Michael Rueger
, I don't think the one that came from etoys does the right thing can't remember, it's named wrong, does utf8 to ascii or something... On 11-Feb-09, at 7:29 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: Michael Rueger wrote: Well that *is* the extended clipboard support. Just need the smalltalk code to make

Re: [Pharo-project] 10233 drag and drop a file - DNU MIMEType

2009-02-12 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: apparently there was a problem when I did 10233 so your fixe works. Great :-) Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Curl Pb

2009-02-12 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I like the idea to have to load speech to get curl :) But this would be nice to fix that There is also a curl implementation in Sophie by Steven Riggins, not sure what it originally was based on. Michael ___ Pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-12 Thread Michael Rueger
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:19 PM, John M McIntosh john...@smalltalkconsulting.com wrote: How much would it take to have the primitive return the normalized UTF-8 string directly? Er, case of beer? What kind? :-) Duckstein? Seriously tho you need to define if the UTF8 you expect squeak to

Re: [Pharo-project] MimeType problems

2009-02-15 Thread Michael Rueger
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Philippe Marschall philippe.marsch...@gmail.com Date: February 15, 2009 4:02:05 PM CEST To: Seaside - general discussion seas...@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Pharo-project] MimeType problems

2009-02-15 Thread Michael Rueger
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Ok mike did you see the reset database DNU problem ? Yes, added a comment on the issue, but didn't have time to look at the code yet though. Michael Stef On Feb 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Michael Rueger wrote

Re: [Pharo-project] Preferences refactoring

2009-02-16 Thread Michael Rueger
Gary Chambers wrote: I'll have a think. Some theme settings can currently be set (manually) on a per theme basis. Would be nice to handle that, though the pragma route suggests that a static facade would be needed to delegate to the defaults for the current theme... I'd see something like

Re: [Pharo-project] Mike we need some fixes for mime.... :)

2009-02-16 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Issue 520: MIMEDocument class(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #resetMIMEdatabase http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=520 Hmm, there isn't a MIMEDocumentinitialize anymore, so the bug is introduced by someone reintroducing/overriding the class initialize

Re: [Pharo-project] Inst var case (was: Mike we need some fixes for mime.... :)

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Rueger
changed the subject :-) Michael On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Michael Roberts m...@mjr104.co.uk wrote: I just wanted to add that I agree the change is currently at the wrong level. Whilst the change was done with the best intentions, and in the best spirit of what Pharo is trying to be,

Re: [Pharo-project] Just downloaded pharo

2009-02-22 Thread Michael Rueger
Todd Blanchard wrote: And WOW the new UI skins are beautiful! So pretty, I almost hate to ask about integrating the mythical ffenesteri native window support that I've never been able to make work (which would obsolete all that work, but would help squeak fit into the real world

Re: [Pharo-project] Just downloaded pharo

2009-02-22 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: Indeed. It is difficult, but possible :) I want to refactor VM code to make all windowing stuff be exclusively driven from language side. So, when you run: squeak -headless myimage.image and -headless flag is handled not by VM itself, but by language side. So, you

Re: [Pharo-project] Towards Pharo 1.0

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Rueger
Marcus Denker wrote: of a report can help a lot in these situations. But they don't. I have *no clue* why. First a mea culpa, I'm one of those on occasions... One problem is (was?) notification. When you signed up for notifications from the Squeak bug tracker you got drowned in emails to

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for Unicode testers

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Rueger
Igor Stasenko wrote: what is not very convenient is that copy/paste (as well as the rest of keyboard shortcuts ) is not working when keyboard layout not english. If you could be so kind to tell me what comes back in slot 3 of the input event on your Russian keyboard if you simply type the

[Pharo-project] Aaah, the pain or ParagraphEditor refactoring ;-)

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Rueger
Hi all, while further battling full unicode support I ended up refactoring ParagraphEditor to the extend that there a no references to the inst var sensor left. There are still a few references to the global Sensor though. With moving the model inst var down we could now basically get rid of

Re: [Pharo-project] Aaah, the pain or ParagraphEditor refactoring ; -)

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Rueger
Rob Rothwell wrote: The class side methods seem easy enough to move to the instance side of DisplayScreen so that the global Display can execute them. Just some hunting down of the senders of those methods to do. All that remains on the instance side is:

Re: [Pharo-project] Aaah, the pain or ParagraphEditor refactoring ; -)

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Rueger
Rob Rothwell wrote: Michael, Do you mean: fullScreen: fullScreenOff fullScreenOn isFullScreen lastScreenModeSelected toggleFullScreen ??? I mean, that actually looks like something I can handle if you think of me like a first year apprentice who needs very specific

Re: [Pharo-project] Aaah, the pain or ParagraphEditor refactoring ; -)

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Rueger
Rob Rothwell wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Michael Rueger m.rue...@acm.org mailto:m.rue...@acm.org wrote: For Pharo it would actually be new versions of the affected packages that you need to upload to the Pharo inbox :-) So, in this case, that would

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