Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] Number of failing test slowly getting worse

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
so we should stop and fix them. I like this idea of the process always green. Stef On Mar 30, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: … we are now at 10. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/label=linux/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] Number of failing test slowly getting worse

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
CollectionsTests.Unordered.DictionaryTest.testAllDictionariesAreHealthy 90 ms 1 Refactoring.Tests.Critics.RBSmalllintTest.testLongMethods 96 ms 2 Manifest.Tests.SmalllintManifestCheckerTest.testFalsePositiveOf 1.5 sec 4

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] Number of failing test slowly getting worse

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
We published a cleaning version of AST and critics so probably some of the tests will be fixed. I will have a look. Stef … we are now at 10. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/label=linux/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/

Re: [Pharo-project] PDF Rendering

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
would make a good base for this. As a distant goal I dream of having a PDF Editor inside Pharo. First just being able to split/join pages and later being able to draw on top of existing documents. cheers -ben stephane ducasse wrote: Else there is also the work of Christian Haidler

Re: [Pharo-project] PDF Rendering

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
and later being able to draw on top of existing documents. cheers -ben stephane ducasse wrote: Else there is also the work of Christian Haidler. Artefact developers will release soon a 0.9 version once they fix the jpeg inclusion Stef I was looking around for PDF rendering libraries

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30016

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
I do not announce the update before the 4 stages are run and green. This slows us down so we code in between updates but this is using the stagged process. I do not even know how you can determine that we are not using it :). I just check when you announced the update and I see that the

Re: [Pharo-project] [Lsehub-staff] Shortcuts for AST matcher

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
I'm really thinking that we should get such feature in the system. Stef That is pretty cool. Doru On Mar 31, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Andre Hora andre.cavalcante.h...@inria.fr Subject: [Lsehub-staff]

Re: [Pharo-project] Owner vs user in SmalltalkHub

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
you have the project owner which can be a team (composite) and you have the project. Stef Screen Shot 2013-03-31 at 12.57.40 AM.png According to the Monticello registration code, abergel is a user. But the Gofer scripts says that ObjectProfile is a smalltalkhubUser. Should not

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext in Pharo2.0

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
I added you to the pharoExtras team on SmalltalkHub. I will also create a jenkins job. Stef On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: Hi, Loading Gettext into Pharo2.0 crashes badly (system locks up, eventually an emergency debugger appears). The reason is the

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext in Pharo2.0

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
There is a PharoExtras/Gettext projects. Stef I propose to make a Gettext repository on smalltalkhub. We can move Gettext and its Seaside extension there. If you want to include it in the release (which would be great), we need to factor out some code because there is an overlap with

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo success story

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
yes good idea. We want to have success stories for the consortium blog. Stef On Apr 1, 2013, at 2:28 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi! I think http://ObjectProfile.com can be listed as a success story :-) Maybe it can be listed here:

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo success story

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
Marcus we added marketing actions on fogbuz so that we do not forget anymore tasks. Stef On Apr 1, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi! I think http://ObjectProfile.com can be

Re: [Pharo-project] news about the association and the consortium

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
I cross my fingers for you :) On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: I am chasing a 50K+ project. Should that go fine, I'll be able to give you 4K in 2014. 2013/4/1 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com great! thanks to all. Luc #Luc 2013/3/31 Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo success story

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
of their products (), I think :) Esteban On Apr 3, 2013, at 1:56 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: yes good idea. We want to have success stories for the consortium blog. Stef On Apr 1, 2013, at 2:28 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi! I think http

Re: [Pharo-project] Where to report Pharo Metacello issues

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
better Metacello Stef On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: MetacelloToolBox createBaseline: '1.0-baseline' for: 'MyProject' Project name repository: 'http://squeaksource.com/MyRepo' requiredProjects: #() packages: #('MyPackage')

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Vision is becoming reality

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 1, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Out of the 14 action items laid out in the 5 year vision, /over half now exist one year later/ in the 2.0 release! Here's the current progress (corrections/updates welcome): In 2.0: 2a Rewrite of Filesystem 7

Re: [Pharo-project] The ultimate SmalltalkHub migration script

2013-04-03 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks Damien!!! Stef On Apr 3, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: I've just used the following scripts to copy many of Lukas' repositories to SmalltalkHub. | source goSource destination goDestination files destinationFiles | source := MCHttpRepository

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemNavigation API: browseAllXyz vs. browseAbc

2013-04-04 Thread stephane ducasse
we should clean the api. On Apr 3, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Some selectors are of the form browseAllXyz (e.g. browseAllSendersOf:), while others are like browseAbc (e.g. browseSendersOf:name:autoSelect:) The Alls seem extraneous. If the thing being

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-04 Thread stephane ducasse
+ 1 For instance i am still clueless, why 'enter' is default for autocompletion, and disabling it and enabling 'tab' simply doesn't works. That leaves me with the only option: keep using 'enter' for autocompletion, if i ever want to use it. We have to fix that. I have no idea why tab does

Re: [Pharo-project] SystemNavigation API: browseAllXyz vs. browseAbc

2013-04-04 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 4, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/4 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr we should clean the api. behind the API, should we use Ring internally? I would say yes. Yes probably Another point is about the environment to scope queries

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Theming: does anyone have some doc?

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Also, the STHStyler80 class coloring schemes are nice and well, but without an editor, good luck w/ the colors. That's an area where spec would come in handy. About that, I read that some paper would surface explaining spec a bit more. I updated the SVN but didn't saw anything

Re: [Pharo-project] Big thanks for the organization of the Pharo Conf and MooseDay

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
yes and we should kick athens out. Because I want to see athens based demo at ESUG :) Stef On 5 April 2013 11:59, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Thanks again to Doru and SCG because the pharo conf was really nice and the moose day too. Stef +1 this event forced

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Indeed, sounds very promising but what does it mean ? There does not seem to be any description in the issue tracker either, or maybe I missed it. What we integrated is a model (two classes) that andrei wrote based on the old debugger. The old debugger does not make the distinction

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi igor since you were at the meeting where we built the list of actions, you could also have edited the entry and add more information. Camille was nice to take notes for everbody and to open issues. I added contents. Now we can also use a bad and private wiki to store information that is

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30022

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Yep, very good example of faked quality. Making changes at the rate of Pharo is demanding and I understand the will to by-pass some quality rules. But then, any one wanting to give lessons should observe the real usage of the bug tracker and think again, because this is far from being an

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks I will try. Stef On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController to: - accept both enter and tab for code completion - still use tab to first complete the common prefixes, but a subsequent tab will select the

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
How can I get fast the choices? Because when I type printO and press tab I do not get printOn: but printO | Stef fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController to: - accept both enter and tab for code completion - still use tab to first

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Just a question: Is there any plan for a Metacello 2? We have learnt a lot and we have a clear idea on a number of versioning scenarios. What do we want the future of packaging in Pharo to look like? can you

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Physical Etoys 2.1 released!

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks ricardo! Continue your great work. On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Ricardo Moran richi.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody (and sorry if you receive multiple copies), It's been a while since our last version but we're proud to announce a new release of Physical Etoys. You can

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi guys we should learn a bit from this burst of rage and emails :). First I think that we should limit the discussions on the bug tracker because I do not see how we can manage a thread of discussion on the bug tracker and the list is for discussion. I know what is it to have a look at long

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOf

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:58 AM, roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote: Hi, I build the ConfigurationOf for my current project and it works fine, but I have some doubts. My project has dependencies on two other projects, namely Spy and Fuel. In my ConfigurationOf I'm loading these two projects before

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Pharo Association reaches 50 Members

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Great We got a list of improvements on the pipe for the association web site and we should start to think about actions. Stef On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, The Pharo Association has reached 52 Members! The Pharo User Association is a way

Re: [Pharo-project] Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
what do you mean? because I get fog mails. Stef On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Can we please convert this to work with fogbugz asap? I'm finding it difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;) - Cheers, Sean --

Re: [Pharo-project] One SlideShare, One Youtube channel for Pharo?

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Ok so we wait that other people reply and we do an organised action. Stef On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: +1 And I like Vimeo more :) On 06.04.2013, at 10:28, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: It will be cool to use some service, that allows

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
martin we worked with envy during 8 years for the moose dev on VW and I have the book of joseph. Now what is the process? during dev everybody load bleeding edge of the current maps? when frozen exact ersion are loaded? Stef In all the discussions about how to manage/organize Smalltalk code

Re: [Pharo-project] Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail. Now that we use smalltalkhub we should be able to do it. Stef On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Can we

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi guys would it be possible to get a couple of settings that you use? So that I can try and understand the one that can work with me. Thanks

Re: [Pharo-project] [FYI] Athens tutorial

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
Alex you can use it for real in roassal For the bootstrap - connection with TextMorph - reimplement all the drawOn: method stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Really cool! Works well! How far are we from bootstrapping?

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30023

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
Marcus we should rename continuation so and put a prefix so that seaside code loads nicely. That way they can migrate when they want. Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30023 - 10199 Continuation in Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
? In my image the latter seems to be the default, Sean is using the former. Why ? On 06 Apr 2013, at 20:59, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: stephane ducasse wrote would it be possible to get a couple of settings that you use? NECPreferences enabled: true

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: stephane ducasse wrote would it be possible to get a couple of settings that you use? NECPreferences enabled: true; caseSensitive: true; expandPrefixes: true; useEnterToAccept: false

Re: [Pharo-project] Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
agreed Can you open a ticket? Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: stephane ducasse wrote I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail. Yes! It'd

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
This is not a question of wanting or not. The key question is - does it scale - do we have the manpower to maintain it - is it key for the future Stef Hi. And what you think about OOSCM which was presented at last ESUG (and maybe at 2010 too)? Does Pharo wants

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
completion functionality has some other problems that makes it sometimes uncomfortable to use... On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:16 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: On Apr 6, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: If everybody likes it, maybe

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

2013-04-07 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks for your effort! We should blog it :) Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pharo and Ubuntu users, Nicolas Petton and I are proud to announce Ubuntu packages for the Pharo VM. Installing the pharo vm is now just a matter of: sudo

Re: [Pharo-project] First 13 minutes of PharoConf

2013-04-08 Thread stephane ducasse
Have a look here :) https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299release_id=4982 https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=4982 On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:41 AM, kilon theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Thank you very much for the videos. I love the lighthouses in the storm videos and I agree

Re: [Pharo-project] Improving the programmer experience with Pharo (ideas)

2013-04-08 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: Please let me know your thoughts about it and if you have more ideas, they are always welcome. 1) when you have a selector with

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] PharoConf Videos: Pharo Roadmap video online (full)

2013-04-08 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi stefan I sent you a dropbox link with my presentations. Let me know if this is working. Marcus published them on slideShare too. Stef On Apr 8, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xRVzzjgPu8 Rendering and uploading (probably 1 or 2

Re: [Pharo-project] State of PharoConf videos

2013-04-08 Thread stephane ducasse
here are the slides Stef On Apr 8, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Really, really nice! On 2013-04-08, at 15:18, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Stephan! On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Hi,

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] Package the be removed: Network-URI

2013-04-08 Thread stephane ducasse
Frank it was long time ago and there are things it is better to ignore because they were ugly. Now for Pharo we have a vision and working hard to make it happens. Stef There are right now three models of Urls in the system - Network-Url - Network-URI - ZnUrl The

Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick

2013-04-08 Thread stephane ducasse
good initiative because it was on my todo to evaluate it as a basis for a logging facilities for Pharo. On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:03 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: I've taken the Toothpick source (as mentioned in the Collaboractive book) and put the packages in Smalltalk Hub. There were some

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] PharoConf Videos: Pharo Roadmap video online (full)

2013-04-09 Thread stephane ducasse
:50 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Hi stefan I sent you a dropbox link with my presentations. Let me know if this is working. Marcus published them on slideShare too. Stef On Apr 8, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: https

Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick

2013-04-09 Thread stephane ducasse
I do not know but I will have a look. The problem is that everybody think that logging is simple and reinvent the wheel. And with toothpick there is a documentation and tests. On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: shouldn't be better to use the newer

Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Yes probably now I want something to log inside the system. I hate transcript plain stupid string. I hate to read transcript for compiler warnings. I want a real object that I can manipulate. Stef On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se wrote: On 04/10/2013 03:22 AM,

Re: [Pharo-project] Toothpick

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
formatting especially in emitting the current timestamp and the classmethod automatically I feel Toothpick can be extended to the above and with clear separation of lean classes it can serve the enterprise class of apps well. While SimpleLog, seems equally good, but I have not used,

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
+1 We will have a little shiny system :) We are getting there. :) lallalalallala and Spring is finally arriving cool On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've been working in a prototype for adding some suggestions to the menu

Re: [Pharo-project] Please comment on a bug fix for Nautilus

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 April 2013 13:21, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: We need you to give your opinion on a bug fix for Nautilus. No need to load any code in your image, just look at the screenshots and comments at:

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
May be I did not understand but how can we get a list of implementors = methods defined in several classes without spawing a list of methods? On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi Gisela, Currently, Nautilus is not really smart at giving a

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: May be I did not understand but how can we get a list of implementors = methods defined in several classes without spawing a list of methods? Not easy to explain. I had the following scenario in mind: 1 - In

Re: [Pharo-project] SmartSuggestions - Prototype 0

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
gisela about command you should sit with ben to also see what we do we do in general. Do we provide a command hierarchy that can be shared among tools (message list…) Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alexandre, I have selected the class

Re: [Pharo-project] Video on code profiling

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks this is cool. Now when you do an announce: just add one sentence to present what we will see. Do not let the user have to guess and click to get it. Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi! Just wanted to share this with you:

Re: [Pharo-project] Video on code profiling

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
May be getSpyOf: should return a null object so that you do not have to type these ifNil: [ ] Setf On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi! Just wanted to share this with you: https://vimeo.com/63319467 Cheers, Alexandre --

Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

2013-04-10 Thread stephane ducasse
did you use platform logic? Because this may be the place to add this logic which is platform dependent. Stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: is this image-side patch or

Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

2013-04-11 Thread stephane ducasse
we have a factory that create an object of each platform at startup. look t OSPlatform. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:40 AM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: did you use platform logic? Stef, What do you mean exactly by platform logic? :) Yesterday I was working

Re: [Pharo-project] Configuration browser doesn't works in 3.0?

2013-04-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Igor wrote: #Pharo3.0 #Latest update: #30013 Rather old, this was fixed in #30014 and 3.0 is already at #30031 Please update your 3.0 image ;) :) I should do that too :) Bye T.

Re: [Pharo-project] Versionner in 2.0 again

2013-04-11 Thread stephane ducasse
We care a lot else we would not have christophe to work on it since september. the problem is that he was disrtacted by inria tasks. For us we cannot use versionner if does not handle project. stef On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Huh, I find it strange

Re: [Pharo-project] Test of patch needed for Linux users

2013-04-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Yes and it should because this is not a good idea to have two hierarchies doing the same. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: we have a factory that create an object of each platform at startup. look t OSPlatform. it looks like FileSystem

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] roassal + athens

2013-04-11 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi guys I crosspost because I hate when I get complains without having mails sent to the right forum. On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: If I understand correctly, if we would get ConfigurationOfRoassal to load Athens only in Pharo 2.0, you would

Re: [Pharo-project] Is renamePackage in Nautilus correct ?

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Le 11/04/2013 17:41, Benjamin a écrit : Most probably yes :) Ok then, I'll do something like : not allow rename on a MC Package, allow rename on a RPackage. I don't know what renaming a Monticello package is

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] Actions done in 3.0...

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
yes because after it takes me **hours** to extract it. On Apr 12, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, This time we should just write it down when we do it… Actions in Pharo 3.0 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W64 Marcus

Re: [Pharo-project] call for a deprecate code transformation

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Any takers? Me. I wanted something fancier: when you deprecate a method you attach a transformation rule so that when a deprecated method is executed, the deprecated warning can also propose to rewrite the sender. yes ;) but you need to general everything automatically :) and you

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30038

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
strange I could not get the diff on System-Support On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30038 - 10278 Bug in semantic annotator https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10278 10279 fix an undeclared in #condenseSources

Re: [Pharo-project] Question on announcements when renaming a RPackage

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 12, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Hi all, I'm looking at announcements seen when renaming a RPackage. From the Nautilus renamePackage code, I see that this goes straight to RPackageOrganizerrenamePackage:in: In the two announcers to be followed

Re: [Pharo-project] DateAndTime bug: we should do something about it

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Igor I have the impression that this is happening for us because we always download the image from jenkins. Did we experience the same once the processes are cleaned? and we do not get an image from another os/system? Stef On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] DateAndTime bug: we should do something about it

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Can you explain where the black magic happens? I integrated the cuis changeset back then because I wanted something more fine grained than seconds. Do you think this is already black magic? I think we can make smaller slices today :) That it forces the whole DateAndTime in this

Re: [Pharo-project] DateAndTime bug: we should do something about it

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Igor since we are investing in the fact that we can build better systems now and for the future, I would be rewriting all this ugly code. Stef On Apr 13, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 April 2013 23:47, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am

Re: [Pharo-project] DateAndTime bug: we should do something about it

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
No problem. We want simple and not overly smart code. So we should do another pass on it. Stef No offense taken. It is not my code. I'm just guilty by resolving a ticket and integrating it. So maybe I should have taken more time looking at it. Norbert Am 13.04.2013 um 00:16 schrieb

Re: [Pharo-project] Open window out of my pharo environment

2013-04-12 Thread stephane ducasse
tristan I do not think that without help we will be able to get multiwindowing working within the time of your intern. Now if one guy at your place wants to help it can really change. Stef 2013/4/12 S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com From immediate perspective, why not hook

Re: [Pharo-project] Open window out of my pharo environment

2013-04-13 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 13, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Tristan Bourgois tristan.bourg...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/13 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr tristan I do not think that without help we will be able to get multiwindowing working within the time of your intern. I can give some of my

Re: [Pharo-project] DateAndTime bug: we should do something about it

2013-04-13 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi igor and levente I want to thank you because I love this thread. Why because it makes me think and I learn things :) I will reread it several time and browse the system... to learn again Thanks Both #timeToRun and secondsWhenClockTicks (via Delay) using same primitive -

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-15 until: 2013-04-30

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:00 AM, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter!

Re: [Pharo-project] we spent couple of hours: checking comments and cleaning Athens

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
igor we should pair program more often :) This is much more fun than alone. :) It was cool to sit and learn stuff by watching igor :). i will commit the changes soon. Stef -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Re: [Pharo-project] On cleaning image startup list

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
yes good idea! Stef On Apr 14, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 April 2013 21:27, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: pfff... DateAndTime classinitialize super initialize. NEVER EVER call super initialize for class initializers! I think we

Re: [Pharo-project] On cleaning image startup list

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
Please rewrite it :) Stef On Apr 14, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: the more i learn about DateAndTime the more i lean towards completely rewriting this ... err.. crap. (yes. sorry for harsh word). DateAndTime classnow is not thread-safe.. now |

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-04-15 until: 2013-04-30

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
Porting SmaCC on 2.0 nice. If you need an integration server. Writing configurations for AltBrowser and Jejak. nice too Started looking at Marpa what is it? Started the switch to 2.0 as professional platform. good. ### What's next, until 2013-04-30

Re: [Pharo-project] SelectPackageBrowser

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
Indeed Merlin would be useful. I cleaned it a bit when migrating to smalltalkhub. Stef I want to extract SelectPackageBrowser as a general PackagePicker widget. It's part of the CriticsBrowser setup wizard, in which there is no wizard object, but rather each page deletes itself and opens the

Re: [Pharo-project] Versionner in 2.0 again

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Hi Norbert, I just add a look at your changes. In my opinion, all stuff related to ConfigurationBaseName shouldn't be changed. The root of the problem is the Metacello ToolBox version. I added a new

Re: [Pharo-project] SelectPackageBrowser

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
So we should extract it :) No duplication. Stef +1 I needed the selectPackageBrowser for the Tree coverage tool and I had to duplicate code because it was in code critics browser and not external. 2013/4/15 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr Indeed Merlin would be useful. I

Re: [Pharo-project] Spec DropLists

2013-04-15 Thread stephane ducasse
I did not check but we should avoid isKindOf: and we should avoid different protocol that after leads to ugly code. Now @ https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/6489/Spec-ify-DropListModel-TextModel Fix in inbox: SLICE-Issue-6489-Spec-ify-DropListModel--TextModel-SeanDeNigris.1 It's a

Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

2013-04-16 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 16, 2013, at 2:35 PM, kilon theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Dammien Alt+m is the implementors, and as i said implementors works for me, however alt+b which is for browsing does nothing. strange and how can we know in which class it is? Browse on a selector = should be equivalent to

Re: [Pharo-project] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-04-16 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: aaah I love to see a response to that :P my vicious plan to spam the pharo list when there are new tests failing seems to work :) Hehehe yes we will conquer the world :)

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello configuration conventions

2013-04-16 Thread stephane ducasse
Christophe I agree with you As a general purpose reflexion on dependencies conventions, I would say: If you are in development mode, it makes sense to rely on latest versions of dependencies (bleeding edge) to be able to detect integration problems as soon as possible. If you are in a

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30042

2013-04-16 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 16, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Cool :) Next step: Athens :) YES but igor knows it :) Ben On Apr 16, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-project] [pharo-project.org] tweaked download pages a bit...

2013-04-16 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks. We should clean also the Pharo-Contribution CI ;) Stef On Apr 16, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, I changed a little the download pages http://www.pharo-project.org/ http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download

Re: [Pharo-project] the fun theory

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
excellent! Yes we should make pharo a fun theory :) Stef On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: When I saw this website, I immediately thought about Pharo http://www.thefuntheory.com This site is dedicated to the thought that something as simple as fun is the

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20599

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 17 Apr 2013, at 13:06, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 20599 - 10297 Integrate 2.0: 10295 Zinc Update April 16th https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10297 Hey Marcus, that is even cooler. I

Re: [Pharo-project] [Sprint] Sprint Lille May 3rd

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
we will do one for the next one. Now we need to kill bugs like mad. On Apr 17, 2013, at 5:02 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Why not make a doodle for this? 2013/4/17 Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com cool :) Ben On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Sean P. DeNigris

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I really really like this :) very simple yet powerful! Yes this will massively simplify the debugger :) So we will be able to get a debugger really working without needing an magician to fix its bugs. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
I should say that I LOVVVE the comments in the method. Yes Yes Yes. Stef Yes, just the AST with Semantic Analysis information (Scope and Semantic Variables), plus bytecodelevel IR that provides the bridge to the low-level pc (bytecode mapping) data… e.g. to get the highlight

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
add a bug entry and tag it so that we simply do not forget. Stef On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Johan Brichau-2 wrote fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController... NECController-Changes.cs (5K)

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