Re: [Phono-L] Amberola 1 III

2011-01-11 Thread Peter Fraser
Hi - Thanks for the response. No, I have no intention of doing anything permanent or irreversible. I basically want to add cylinder storage. My III lost its shelf before I got it, and looks awful. From the sounds of things, horn size will be the main issue... Sent from my iPhone -- Peter

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread Peter Fraser
See my prior response, plus...my III mech and cabinet already have mismatched numbers... Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:44 AM, gpaul2...@aol.com wrote: Jerry is correct about mixing a 1A and a III, but a 1B uses the same mechanism as the III. Even so,

[Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

2011-01-11 Thread john9ten
Hi folks If anyone is interested, I am offering a very fine BA of Social and Industrial Justice by Theodore Roosevelt and a 2 minute copy of The Farmer and the Republican Party by William H. Taft for sale here before they go to eBay. The Roosevelt I am asking $100 for, and the Taft $85. The Taft

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread Rich
Seems that after many of those machines left the factory the retail dealers swapped the mechanisms to make customers happy with the color of the machine. On 01/11/2011 10:54 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: See my prior response, plus...my III mech and cabinet already have mismatched numbers... Sent

Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

2011-01-11 Thread AllenAmet
In a message dated 1/11/2011 12:09:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: I also have a 2 min Columbia of President McKinley's Address at the Panama Exposition by Len Spencer -- Hi, is this title inscribed on the cylinder or obtained from the spoken

Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

2011-01-11 Thread john9ten
It is inscribed, but I will double check the wording when I get home at lunch. -Original Message- From: allena...@aol.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:15:57 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread gpaul2000
I'd be most grateful to see period documentation of that practice. Can you direct me? George P. -Original Message- From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread Rich
How do you explain original machines that have been in the same family since new that have mismatched works? There are different shades of mechanisms and for what those machines cost originally people were picky. If you expect to find a period written record good luck. On 01/11/2011 11:46

Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

2011-01-11 Thread AllenAmet
In a message dated 1/11/2011 12:23:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: It is inscribed, but I will double check the wording ('Panama') when I get home at lunch. -Original Message- doing some mind-reading here, how about: Pan-American exposition (1901)

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread Steve Andersen
I guess one has to define mismatched works... An Amberola 1A mechansim serial number matches a corresponding nameplate which is affixed to the cabinet. Cabinets are stamped with a different number which is on the lid, main cabinet, and on the doors. Without the nameplate on the cabinet,

Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

2011-01-11 Thread john9ten
Yeah that's probably it!! --Original Message-- From: allena...@aol.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s Sent: Jan 11, 2011 10:04 AM In a message dated 1/11/2011 12:23:54 P.M.

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread gpaul2000
No, I don't expect to find a period written record. -Original Message- From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 12:54 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards How do you explain original machines

[Phono-L] Amberola III

2011-01-11 Thread Kurt Nauck
I have one available if anyone is interested - contact me off-list Kurt Nauck c/o Nauck's Vintage Records 22004 Sherrod Ln. Spring, TX 77389 Website: www.78rpm.com E-Mail: na...@78rpm.com www.newpledge.org www.mdada.org Phone: (281) 288-7826 Fax: (425) 930-6862

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread c5fan
I have a 1B mech in a 1A cabinet that was original as far as the original owners family could remember. -Original Message- From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 12:13 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread Rich
The theory is that the cabinet numbers all match and the cabinet number matches the serial number plate and the mechanism serial number. I have seen way too many of these machines that have verifiable provenance where the mech sn and the plate sn match but they do not match the cabinet. I

Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards

2011-01-11 Thread phonofolks
The original owners are long dead unless you consider someone born around 1920 to parents that bought the edison who is still alive to be an original owner. -Original Message- From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011

[Phono-L] amberola cabinets

2011-01-11 Thread Thomas Edison
I woud retore the III cabinet at all costs, the shelf is not hard to duplicate. My A-150 dd had a missing shelf, and I made a new one with a mahogany board, and made a stencil of another machine and duplicated it. Many f these cabinets are almost black and very bubbed, restore it! The 150 is

[Phono-L] Long pin for Edison 2/4 min standard and set scew for Edison mandrel gear

2011-01-11 Thread harvey kravitz
I am looking for an Edison long pin for the large gear and the set screw for the mandrel gear for my 2/4 min model B Standard. any help will be greatly appreciated. Harvey Kravitz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

2011-01-11 Thread Aph4990
Hi John, I would love the Taft cylinder at your price. Let me know. Art Heller aph4...@aol.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

2011-01-11 Thread john9ten
Hi Art It sold earlier. The Roosevelt cylinder is all that's left. Thanks John --Original Message-- From: aph4...@aol.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: phono-l@oldcrank.org ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s Sent: Jan 11, 2011 3:41 PM

Re: [Phono-L] Matching serial numbers

2011-01-11 Thread Rich
What I said was the mech and tag match but those 2 do not match the cabinet numbers even though all of the cabinet numbers do match each of the other cabinet numbers. It is a given that the mech has been changed if it fails to match the tag on the case. And as you said, many mechanisms were

[Phono-L] Edison GEM reproducer

2011-01-11 Thread Ward Sandstrom
Group. I have a early Edison GEM model A phonograph missing the special GEM reproducer. Does anyone have one they would sell. Thanks Ward Sandstrom ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board

2011-01-11 Thread William Zucca
Bob: The back panel is still stuck fast but you can see in my earlier reply to this thread that I used suggestions of several members to get the motor board open. Next I will be giving the back panel a whack from the inside with my trustee rubber mallet by putting in the motor board hole.

[Phono-L] Matching numbers

2011-01-11 Thread DeeDee Blais
Why would the Edison Company go to the trouble of assigning a number to the major cabinet parts, the mechanism, and the ID tag? When I look at a big Amberola with the eye of a buyer, I check those numbers and expect them to be the same. Right or wrong, I'll assign a lower value to a machine

Re: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale

2011-01-11 Thread Tom Jordan
The Excelda Cameraphone is sold. If anyone is interested in the Victor VV-VI table model, please make me an offer. I won't be offended if your offer is too low. I just may be unable to accept it. Thank you. Tom -Original Message- From: Tom Jordan [mailto:tom...@msn.com] Sent: Monday,

Re: [Phono-L] Human nature...

2011-01-11 Thread KEEPERH2O
And a very interesting book it is, Jerry! Thanks so muchly for the ramble. I really enjoyed reading it! : ) Edward in Zigzag/Rhododendron, Oregon In a message dated 1/11/2011 9:00:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, deedeebl...@yahoo.com writes: Years ago I purchased a Victrola that