[Phono-L] Theodore Edison

2006-12-24 Thread Bruce Mercer

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 So, did Theodore work on the Edison LP at all  ?

 No. Charles picked up after T.A. retired in 1927, leaving him head of the 
 company in that year. Both Charles and Theodore went to MIT with Theodore 
 having a penchant for mathematical physics and was secretly pursuing 
 electrical recording and playback in a separate laboratory set up for him. 
 It was during this time that electrical recording 'finally' got into gear. 
 It is Theodore we have to thank for the marvelous C-1 and C-2 phonographs. 
 The pick-up is absolutely ingenious and the phonographs have a wonderful 
 sound, especially playing the 52000 series. Unfortunately, they came too 
 late. They were brought out late in 1928 and were the last phonographs 
 made by the company. Very few C-1s are known. Only a few dozen C-2s are 
 known to exist, of which I am a proud owner and can attest to their usual 
 Edison quality.
 btw...the L.P. cylinder Edison made in 1899 had 450 grooves per inch. 
 Obviously, it wasn't practical at that time either for even more reasons, 
 one being a suitable material for pressing. Still, that's when the L.P. 
 work began and was first achieved. As far as Theodore goes, I bow to him 
 for the electronic phonographs and that ingenious pick-up with the offset 
 diamond stylus.

 Bruce
 




[Phono-L] Theodore Edison

2006-12-24 Thread Doug
One thing that we need to check into and that is that Splitdorf Radio Co. 
beghan an association with Edison in June, 1928, at ffirst, manufacturing 
for Edison. By January, 1929, they had practically merged..  The acquisition 
of Splitdorf was of necessity to obtain their RCA license.The manufacturing 
operation was crude, and inadequate. The operation was moved to the Edison 
plant in West Orange. The R1,R2and C2 were Splitdorf designs that were put 
into production to get Edison into public hands. Later models were designed 
at Edison. This is from Alan Douglas' Radio Manufacturers of the twenties, 
vol. 3.   While nothing was mentioned about the C1, its cabinet design 
pictured in the Douglas book, has a strong resemblance to a  Splitdorf top 
line model of that period.
 I sort of suspect that the C1 was a Splitdorf design. The C1 was priced at 
$1100.00, which was a lot of mazuma in that time.

The models C6 and C7 had been in production, and in 1931, a superheterodyne 
model was planned, but never built.

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 So, did Theodore work on the Edison LP at all  ?

 No. Charles picked up after T.A. retired in 1927, leaving him head of the
 company in that year. Both Charles and Theodore went to MIT with Theodore
 having a penchant for mathematical physics and was secretly pursuing
 electrical recording and playback in a separate laboratory set up for 
 him.
 It was during this time that electrical recording 'finally' got into 
 gear.
 It is Theodore we have to thank for the marvelous C-1 and C-2 
 phonographs.
 The pick-up is absolutely ingenious and the phonographs have a wonderful
 sound, especially playing the 52000 series. Unfortunately, they came too
 late. They were brought out late in 1928 and were the last phonographs
 made by the company. Very few C-1s are known. Only a few dozen C-2s are
 known to exist, of which I am a proud owner and can attest to their usual
 Edison quality.
 btw...the L.P. cylinder Edison made in 1899 had 450 grooves per inch.
 Obviously, it wasn't practical at that time either for even more reasons,
 one being a suitable material for pressing. Still, that's when the L.P.
 work began and was first achieved. As far as Theodore goes, I bow to him
 for the electronic phonographs and that ingenious pick-up with the offset
 diamond stylus.

 Bruce



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[Phono-L] Theodore Edison

2006-12-24 Thread Dan Kj
I knew Theodore had worked at the Lab since he graduated in 1923, so it 
seemed unlikely that he'd have nothing to do with the LP work.  I know I've 
read in more than one place about his LP work, but have had trouble 
remembering where.

.  Here's one quote, from Lee Munsick: Ask me sometime about the problems 
Theodore Edison told me he had in the development of the Edison Long Playing 
machine and recordings. .  Lee also calls Theodore the project supervisor 
for the LP.




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 So, did Theodore work on the Edison LP at all  ?

 No. Charles picked up after T.A. retired in 1927, leaving him head of the
 company in that year. Both Charles and Theodore went to MIT with Theodore
 having a penchant for mathematical physics and was secretly pursuing
 electrical recording and playback in a separate laboratory set up for 
 him.
 It was during this time that electrical recording 'finally' got into 
 gear.
 It is Theodore we have to thank for the marvelous C-1 and C-2 
 phonographs.
 The pick-up is absolutely ingenious and the phonographs have a wonderful
 sound, especially playing the 52000 series. Unfortunately, they came too
 late. They were brought out late in 1928 and were the last phonographs
 made by the company. Very few C-1s are known. Only a few dozen C-2s are
 known to exist, of which I am a proud owner and can attest to their usual
 Edison quality.
 btw...the L.P. cylinder Edison made in 1899 had 450 grooves per inch.
 Obviously, it wasn't practical at that time either for even more reasons,
 one being a suitable material for pressing. Still, that's when the L.P.
 work began and was first achieved. As far as Theodore goes, I bow to him
 for the electronic phonographs and that ingenious pick-up with the offset
 diamond stylus.

 Bruce