Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
Or George Vollema may have spare barrels or shafts. That is an uncommon motor but you never know. -Barry On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Antique Phonograph List < phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: > Hi Steve ~ > Timesavers clock parts supplier in AZ sells brass bushings for clock > spring barrels. One of these might possibly be modified (though I expect > most they offer are smaller, in addition to being brass), or could serve as > a visual model for turning a new bushing out on a lathe, to fit the arbor, > which would also have to be cleaned up where it goes through the bushing. > An arbor press should take care of the bushing installation. > Andy Baron > > On Sep 22, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > wrote: > > The problem is the single spring barrel, it is very loose. The problem is > the inner shaft is worn and the hole in the brass gear that the inner shaft > goes in is also worn. I really appreciate both replies so I know I am not > missing a spacer. > > Steve > > > -------------- > From: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:31:56 + > > Yes brass bushing is pressed into cover, not suppose to be removable, but > could be worn. > > Thank you, > Great Lakes Antique Phonograph > George Vollema > 9496 N Woodbridge Ave > Bitely MI 49309231-745-7175victr...@triton.netwww.victroladoctor.com > <http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.victroladoctor.com?p=eyJzIjoiN2ZlLVRJbzJ6b01vOWtWQUIxR0MtaHo0VzVBIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LnZpY3Ryb2xhZG9jdG9yLmNvbVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcIjAyYjFhMzNmMTRkYjQ2NjFhNTVkMDNlMWZmYTIyODVhXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiOGFkMGZjZjk2NDQ1MzRiYzIyNzE4MzcwZGM4Njk3YmVlNzhiOGQwOVwiXX0ifQ> > > On 9/21/2015 11:01 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: > > Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the > steel cover? Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask me > how I know this can happen). And/or do the covers have different size > holes such that swapping them creates difficulties? > > > Ron L > > > *From:* Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org > <phono-l@oldcrank.org>] > *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM > *To:* Antique Phonograph List > *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved > > > No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the barrels > and cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak. > > Thank you, > > Great Lakes Antique Phonograph > > George Vollema > > 9496 N Woodbridge Ave > > Bitely MI 49309 > > 231-745-7175 > > victr...@triton.net > > www.victroladoctor.com > <http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.victroladoctor.com?p=eyJzIjoiV3BLZnF4V0tra3ZBRXlVSWR1OWZVTkdlVHZnIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LnZpY3Ryb2xhZG9jdG9yLmNvbVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImJkZGYzMGQ1OTg3MDQ3MGU4OWIwMWM3YjRkNGVlNTFjXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiOGFkMGZjZjk2NDQ1MzRiYzIyNzE4MzcwZGM4Njk3YmVlNzhiOGQwOVwiXX0ifQ> > > > > On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I > wound the motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the gears not > to mesh and I solved this by putting felt between the single and double > barrel. Is there a spacer that goes there? > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > > > > > > -- -Barry
Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
The problem is the single spring barrel, it is very loose. The problem is the inner shaft is worn and the hole in the brass gear that the inner shaft goes in is also worn. I really appreciate both replies so I know I am not missing a spacer. Steve From: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:31:56 + Yes brass bushing is pressed into cover, not suppose to be removable, but could be worn. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com On 9/21/2015 11:01 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the steel cover? Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask me how I know this can happen). And/or do the covers have different size holes such that swapping them creates difficulties? Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the barrels and cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hello, I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I wound the motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the gears not to mesh and I solved this by putting felt between the single and double barrel. Is there a spacer that goes there? Thanks, Steve
Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
Hi Steve ~ Timesavers clock parts supplier in AZ sells brass bushings for clock spring barrels. One of these might possibly be modified (though I expect most they offer are smaller, in addition to being brass), or could serve as a visual model for turning a new bushing out on a lathe, to fit the arbor, which would also have to be cleaned up where it goes through the bushing. An arbor press should take care of the bushing installation. Andy Baron On Sep 22, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote: > The problem is the single spring barrel, it is very loose. The problem is > the inner shaft is worn and the hole in the brass gear that the inner shaft > goes in is also worn. I really appreciate both replies so I know I am not > missing a spacer. > > Steve > > > From: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:31:56 + > > Yes brass bushing is pressed into cover, not suppose to be removable, but > could be worn. > Thank you, > Great Lakes Antique Phonograph > George Vollema > 9496 N Woodbridge Ave > Bitely MI 49309 > 231-745-7175 > victr...@triton.net > www.victroladoctor.com > > On 9/21/2015 11:01 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: > Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the steel > cover? Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask me how I > know this can happen). And/or do the covers have different size holes such > that swapping them creates difficulties? > > Ron L > > From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved > > No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the barrels and > cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak. > > Thank you, > Great Lakes Antique Phonograph > George Vollema > 9496 N Woodbridge Ave > Bitely MI 49309 > 231-745-7175 > victr...@triton.net > www.victroladoctor.com > > On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: > Hello, > > I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I wound > the motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the gears not to mesh > and I solved this by putting felt between the single and double barrel. Is > there a spacer that goes there? > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > > > > >
Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
Yes brass bushing is pressed into cover, not suppose to be removable, but could be worn. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com On 9/21/2015 11:01 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the steel cover? Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask me how I know this can happen). And/or do the covers have different size holes such that swapping them creates difficulties? Ron L *From:*Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM *To:* Antique Phonograph List *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the barrels and cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net <mailto:victr...@triton.net> www.victroladoctor.com <http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.victroladoctor.com?p=eyJzIjoiV3BLZnF4V0tra3ZBRXlVSWR1OWZVTkdlVHZnIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LnZpY3Ryb2xhZG9jdG9yLmNvbVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImJkZGYzMGQ1OTg3MDQ3MGU4OWIwMWM3YjRkNGVlNTFjXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiOGFkMGZjZjk2NDQ1MzRiYzIyNzE4MzcwZGM4Njk3YmVlNzhiOGQwOVwiXX0ifQ> On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hello, I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I wound the motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the gears not to mesh and I solved this by putting felt between the single and double barrel. Is there a spacer that goes there? Thanks, Steve Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender.
Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the steel cover? Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask me how I know this can happen). And/or do the covers have different size holes such that swapping them creates difficulties? Ron L From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the barrels and cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonograph George Vollema 9496 N Woodbridge Ave Bitely MI 49309 231-745-7175 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com <http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.victroladoctor.com?p=eyJzIjoiV3BLZnF4V0tra3ZBRXlVSWR1OWZVTkdlVHZnIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LnZpY3Ryb2xhZG9jdG9yLmNvbVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImJkZGYzMGQ1OTg3MDQ3MGU4OWIwMWM3YjRkNGVlNTFjXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiOGFkMGZjZjk2NDQ1MzRiYzIyNzE4MzcwZGM4Njk3YmVlNzhiOGQwOVwiXX0ifQ> On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote: Hello, I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I wound the motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the gears not to mesh and I solved this by putting felt between the single and double barrel. Is there a spacer that goes there? Thanks, Steve Image removed by sender. Image removed by sender.