Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved

2015-09-22 Thread Antique Phonograph List
Or
George Vollema may have spare barrels or shafts. That is an uncommon motor
but you never know.
-Barry


On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Antique Phonograph List <
phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote:

> Hi Steve ~
> Timesavers clock parts supplier in AZ sells brass bushings for clock
> spring barrels. One of these might possibly be modified (though I expect
> most they offer are smaller, in addition to being brass), or could serve as
> a visual model for turning a new bushing out on a lathe, to fit the arbor,
> which would also have to be cleaned up where it goes through the bushing.
> An arbor press should take care of the bushing installation.
> Andy Baron
>
> On Sep 22, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> wrote:
>
> The problem is the single spring barrel, it is very loose.  The problem is
> the inner shaft is worn and the hole in the brass gear that the inner shaft
> goes in is also worn.  I really appreciate both replies so I know I am not
> missing a spacer.
>
> Steve
>
>
> --------------
> From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:31:56 +
>
> Yes brass bushing is pressed into cover, not suppose to be removable, but
> could be worn.
>
> Thank you,
> Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
> George Vollema
> 9496 N Woodbridge Ave
> Bitely MI 49309231-745-7175victr...@triton.netwww.victroladoctor.com 
> <http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.victroladoctor.com?p=eyJzIjoiN2ZlLVRJbzJ6b01vOWtWQUIxR0MtaHo0VzVBIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LnZpY3Ryb2xhZG9jdG9yLmNvbVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcIjAyYjFhMzNmMTRkYjQ2NjFhNTVkMDNlMWZmYTIyODVhXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiOGFkMGZjZjk2NDQ1MzRiYzIyNzE4MzcwZGM4Njk3YmVlNzhiOGQwOVwiXX0ifQ>
>
> On 9/21/2015 11:01 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote:
>
> Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the
> steel cover?  Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask me
> how I know this can happen).   And/or do the covers have different size
> holes such that swapping them creates difficulties?
>
>
> Ron L
>
>
> *From:* Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org
> <phono-l@oldcrank.org>]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
>
>
> No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the barrels
> and cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
>
> George Vollema
>
> 9496 N Woodbridge Ave
>
> Bitely MI 49309
>
> 231-745-7175
>
> victr...@triton.net
>
> www.victroladoctor.com 
> <http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.victroladoctor.com?p=eyJzIjoiV3BLZnF4V0tra3ZBRXlVSWR1OWZVTkdlVHZnIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LnZpY3Ryb2xhZG9jdG9yLmNvbVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImJkZGYzMGQ1OTg3MDQ3MGU4OWIwMWM3YjRkNGVlNTFjXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiOGFkMGZjZjk2NDQ1MzRiYzIyNzE4MzcwZGM4Njk3YmVlNzhiOGQwOVwiXX0ifQ>
>
>
>
> On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I
> wound the motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the gears not
> to mesh and I solved this by putting felt between the single and double
> barrel.  Is there a spacer that goes there?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>


-- 
-Barry



Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved

2015-09-22 Thread Antique Phonograph List
The problem is the single spring barrel, it is very loose.  The problem is the 
inner shaft is worn and the hole in the brass gear that the inner shaft goes in 
is also worn.  I really appreciate both replies so I know I am not missing a 
spacer.  
 
Steve 
 
From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:31:56 +


  

  
  
Yes brass bushing is pressed into cover, not suppose to be
removable, but could be worn.

Thank you,
Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
George Vollema
9496 N Woodbridge Ave
Bitely MI 49309
231-745-7175
victr...@triton.net
www.victroladoctor.com


On 9/21/2015 11:01 AM, Antique
  Phonograph List wrote:



  
  
  
  
  
Doesn't
one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into
the steel cover?  Could that bearing have slipped out
unnoticed (don't ask me how I know this can happen).  
And/or do the covers have different size holes such that
swapping them creates difficulties?
 
Ron
L
 

  
From:
Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] 

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM

To: Antique Phonograph List

    Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor
    Medved
  

 
No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft
  and/or holes in the barrels and cover allowing the barrel to
  wobble so to speak. 

  

  
Thank you,
Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
George Vollema
9496 N Woodbridge Ave
Bitely MI 49309
231-745-7175
victr...@triton.net
www.victroladoctor.com
 

  On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph
List wrote:


  
Hello,

   

  I have a Victor VI I got
back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I wound the
motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the
gears not to mesh and I solved this by putting felt
between the single and double barrel.  Is there a spacer
that goes there?

   

  Thanks,

   

  Steve 
   
  
  



  
  
  



  


Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved

2015-09-22 Thread Antique Phonograph List
Hi Steve ~
Timesavers clock parts supplier in AZ sells brass bushings for clock spring 
barrels. One of these might possibly be modified (though I expect most they 
offer are smaller, in addition to being brass), or could serve as a visual 
model for turning a new bushing out on a lathe, to fit the arbor, which would 
also have to be cleaned up where it goes through the bushing. An arbor press 
should take care of the bushing installation.
Andy Baron

On Sep 22, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
wrote:

> The problem is the single spring barrel, it is very loose.  The problem is 
> the inner shaft is worn and the hole in the brass gear that the inner shaft 
> goes in is also worn.  I really appreciate both replies so I know I am not 
> missing a spacer.  
>  
> Steve 
> 
>  
> From: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:31:56 +
> 
> Yes brass bushing is pressed into cover, not suppose to be removable, but 
> could be worn.
> Thank you,
> Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
> George Vollema
> 9496 N Woodbridge Ave
> Bitely MI 49309
> 231-745-7175
> victr...@triton.net
> www.victroladoctor.com
> 
> On 9/21/2015 11:01 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote:
> Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the steel 
> cover?  Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask me how I 
> know this can happen).   And/or do the covers have different size holes such 
> that swapping them creates difficulties?
>  
> Ron L
>  
> From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] 
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved
>  
> No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the barrels and 
> cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak. 
> 
> Thank you,
> Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
> George Vollema
> 9496 N Woodbridge Ave
> Bitely MI 49309
> 231-745-7175
> victr...@triton.net
> www.victroladoctor.com
>  
> On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote:
> Hello,
>  
> I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I wound 
> the motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the gears not to mesh 
> and I solved this by putting felt between the single and double barrel.  Is 
> there a spacer that goes there?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Steve 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved

2015-09-21 Thread Antique Phonograph List
Yes brass bushing is pressed into cover, not suppose to be removable, 
but could be worn.


Thank you,
Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
George Vollema
9496 N Woodbridge Ave
Bitely MI 49309
231-745-7175
victr...@triton.net
www.victroladoctor.com

On 9/21/2015 11:01 AM, Antique Phonograph List wrote:


Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the 
steel cover?  Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask 
me how I know this can happen). And/or do the covers have different 
size holes such that swapping them creates difficulties?


Ron L

*From:*Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org]
*Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM
*To:* Antique Phonograph List
*Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved

No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the 
barrels and cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak.


Thank you,
Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
George Vollema
9496 N Woodbridge Ave
Bitely MI 49309
231-745-7175
victr...@triton.net <mailto:victr...@triton.net>
www.victroladoctor.com 
<http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.victroladoctor.com?p=eyJzIjoiV3BLZnF4V0tra3ZBRXlVSWR1OWZVTkdlVHZnIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LnZpY3Ryb2xhZG9jdG9yLmNvbVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImJkZGYzMGQ1OTg3MDQ3MGU4OWIwMWM3YjRkNGVlNTFjXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiOGFkMGZjZjk2NDQ1MzRiYzIyNzE4MzcwZGM4Njk3YmVlNzhiOGQwOVwiXX0ifQ>


On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote:

Hello,

I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and
when I wound the motor the single spring barrel would flex and
cause the gears not to mesh and I solved this by putting felt
between the single and double barrel.  Is there a spacer that goes
there?

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved

2015-09-21 Thread Antique Phonograph List
Doesn't one of the barrels have a brass "bearing" that slips into the steel 
cover?  Could that bearing have slipped out unnoticed (don't ask me how I know 
this can happen).   And/or do the covers have different size holes such that 
swapping them creates difficulties?

 

Ron L

 

From: Antique Phonograph List [mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org] 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:07 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor V or VI motor Medved

 

No, but I suspect you have badly worn shaft and/or holes in the barrels and 
cover allowing the barrel to wobble so to speak. 



Thank you,
Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
George Vollema
9496 N Woodbridge Ave
Bitely MI 49309
231-745-7175
victr...@triton.net
www.victroladoctor.com 
<http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30365713/www.victroladoctor.com?p=eyJzIjoiV3BLZnF4V0tra3ZBRXlVSWR1OWZVTkdlVHZnIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM2NTcxMyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd3d3LnZpY3Ryb2xhZG9jdG9yLmNvbVwiLFwiaWRcIjpcImJkZGYzMGQ1OTg3MDQ3MGU4OWIwMWM3YjRkNGVlNTFjXCIsXCJ1cmxfaWRzXCI6W1wiOGFkMGZjZjk2NDQ1MzRiYzIyNzE4MzcwZGM4Njk3YmVlNzhiOGQwOVwiXX0ifQ>
 
 

On 9/20/2015 5:57 PM, Antique Phonograph List wrote:

Hello,
 
I have a Victor VI I got back in 1984, I greased the springs and when I wound 
the motor the single spring barrel would flex and cause the gears not to mesh 
and I solved this by putting felt between the single and double barrel.  Is 
there a spacer that goes there?
 
Thanks,
 
Steve 
 

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