> On Apr 20, 2020, at 5:07, Guido Stepken wrote:
>
> And what about Apple buying and removing Open Sourced FoundationDB from
> Internet?
>
> "In March 2015 the FoundationDB Community site was updated to state that the
> company had changed directions and would no longer be offering
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:11:07PM +0200, Tomas Hlavaty wrote:
> thanks for the links
You're welcome! I thought I'd add other links, but it was laready too
long a message. (Links to books and pages showing the intimate reltionship
of Google and NSA; the episode when Microsoft spied on Brazilian
thanks for the links
> With nuclear energy, there came a requirement for more
> authoritarianism, stronger vertical power structures. Why? Because
> the potential for damage is huge. See, for example, the radioactive
> boy scout, David Hahn [6]. I do recall that there was some similar
>
Guido Stepken writes:
> Well, perhaps you could find a few papers about "Frank" at Viewpoint
> Research homepage. Bert Freudenberg, Ian Piumarta, Alan Kay certainly have
> the full "Frank" code.
I might have heard something about that research. Probably related to
that concise vector graphics
Tomas Hlavaty writes:
> Guido Stepken writes:
>> Using US software stacks, even if open source and under a free license are
>> not tolerable. For any nation, for any kind of project.
> Where can I learn more about your work?
probably here:
https://stepken.blogspot.com/
hidden behind
What about US sanctions against China about Huawei using free, open sourced
Android? What about USA advising Germany, Switzerland to stop buying gas
from Russia - see Grenell's letters to industry:
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/24/c_138655403.htm
(B.t.w.: Grenell's now commander in
Hi Mike,
You don’t need energy, you need some patience.
Andras
===> time pil huge.l -bye
OK-UTF8
OK-Montgomery
OK-Leibniz
OK-math
OK-forth
OK-parse2list
OK-mapreduce
OK-pow
OK-destr
OK-test-car
OK-bitwise
# reduce redefined
# pow redefined
OK-4clojure
# pow redefined
OK-AoC15
OK-SimplyScheme
#
[ sorry for duplacates; I've realized I have sent this from a wrong
From: address, so I'm sending it again ]
Hello.
I don't usually write here, but I believe this is important.
I agree that the tone used initialy by Guido was really bad. But
there are strong arguments that lead to what he
Well, perhaps you could find a few papers about "Frank" at Viewpoint
Research homepage. Bert Freudenberg, Ian Piumarta, Alan Kay certainly have
the full "Frank" code.
But this is not the point. The point is, that MetaCola was a code
generator, where you can implement whole programming languages
Jo-To Schäg writes:
> However the PicoLisp community does not like to solve problems for
> other people. Especially if it is motivated for political reasons.
> Do not expect Alex to spend his time on satisfying your paranoia or
> political motivations.
Where I live we had freedom of movement
Well, perhaps i may recommend you an excellent course into "C system
programming". IMHO it's basic knowledge, nobody can succeed without. This
guy is a highly talented teacher, IMHO.
Example lesson, worth watching at first:
http://cs-education.github.io/sys/#/chapter/5/section/0/activity/0
Here
Alexander Burger writes:
> In case of pil21, where is the problem?
> llvm assembler to convert to machine code
^
I think he is pointing here
> Do you seriously believe the libraries contain backdoors?
I don't think he said anything like that.
My understanding is that he said that llvm is
Guido Stepken writes:
> That group implemented a whole operating system in MetaCola language within
> 20.000 lines of code only. GUI, TrueType Fonts, mouse, keyboard driver ...
> everything included, called "Frank" for Frank - enstein.
interesting, where can I learn more?
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Ok. Fine. Then let's look, how many lines it needs to write your own
compiler. Means: Source language -> Windows .exe binary.
What do you think, how many lines are needed to generate 64-bit Machine
code COFF executable format for Intel, AMD Ryzen, Thread Ripper, EPYC on
Windows?
I can tell you:
Guido Stepken writes:
> Picolisp, thanks to Alex' brilliant ideas, behind the scenes, serves as
> prototype of a new kind of "minimalistic, highly efficiency" software
> strategy within the EU. Goal is: Back to the roots, small modules, security
> review everywhere, minimal hardware requirements,
Hi Guido,
Guido Stepken writes:
> Using US software stacks, even if open source and under a free license are
> not tolerable. For any nation, for any kind of project.
>
> US Cloud Act, Patriot Act, by law, force US companies as well US
> organisations in general, such as Linux Foundation as well
andr...@itship.ch writes:
> I have to disagree with your tone.
I empathise with his tone.
This issue is frustrating.
Just this week a friend of mine was told by her employer to install
whatsapp so that they can keep her updated about the suspended work due
to the pandemic. I told her about the
Dear Guido,
all our time on earth is limited. We all got our own priorities.
I think the PicoLisp community gladly spends time teaching people. Even
multiple times.
However the PicoLisp community does not like to solve problems for other
people.
Especially if it is motivated for political
Alex, this is not the point. One day LLVM will inject trojan code, because
US government, by law, tells them to do so!
With Cloud Act and Patriot Act US government can advise any US company or
organisation to implement evil code.
Can you do a full code review at every update coming for LLVM? I
8k ... well, looks like totally bloated ... somebody implemented Ian
Piumarta's Lysp in Free Pascal, using 192 lines of code only. I haven't
tested, but should come out at under 4k, one memory page for the binary.
https://github.com/tangentstorm/lysp
Finally, to execute Lisp like code, you only
Hi tankf33der,
Thanks for sharing your huge.l test, I tried it on my pil64 on WSL and all
passed!
20:27 $ pil huge.l +
OK-UTF8
OK-Montgomery
OK-Leibniz
OK-math
OK-forth
OK-parse2list
OK-mapreduce
OK-pow
OK-inc-db
# worker redefined
# +Inc c redefined
OK-inc-db-v2
OK-destr
OK-test-car
OK-bitwise
hi all,
> If you are interested I have patched the 19.12 32bit sources to compile
> without GCC.
> I have attached the changed files: pico.h, main.c, apply.c and flow.c
My testing status for https://github.com/picolisp/picolisp
1. pil @lib/test.l +
clang - ok
clang+asan - ok
tcc-git-
Hi Alex,
Indeed! How can I missed that hehe if I remember correctly, the character
for commenting was not yet ‘#’ right?
So cool!! thanks for reminding me ;)
BR,
Geo
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 6:37 PM Alexander Burger
wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 06:10:25PM +0900, George-Phillip Orais
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 06:10:25PM +0900, George-Phillip Orais wrote:
> You mentioned nokolisp, I also tried that and from what I remember the
> source code was only runnable on an old DOS?
Then 8kLisp is even better:
https://software-lab.de/8kLisp.tgz
It run on CP/M, and the whole
Hi Guido,
> Look at LLVM generated bloat and compare with Nokolisp. Less is more!!! In
> terms of size as well as of security.
True, LLVM is huge (as is gcc, and other equivalent systems), but this is
irrelevant because I *use* it only to translate *my* code.
The generated pil21 'picolisp'
Hi Guido,
You mentioned nokolisp, I also tried that and from what I remember the
source code was only runnable on an old DOS?
One thing that was cool about nokolisp was it was intended for Nokie phones
right?
How about Lisp dialects made in Japan? Im interested to hear your thoughts
about them
Am Sonntag, 19. April 2020 schrieb :
Picolisp, thanks to Alex' brilliant ideas, behind the scenes, serves as
prototype of a new kind of "minimalistic, highly efficiency" software
strategy within the EU. Goal is: Back to the roots, small modules, security
review everywhere, minimal hardware
Hi Alex!
I have enough proof, that USA is weaponizing its whole developer community
to spy upon us. Facebook SDK for Android, in fact, not only is a highly
sophisticated library for programming Android Apps, but also a spy tool,
that copies all contents, your business contacts, ... onto facebook
Oh dear,
Since you (Guido Stepken) are already ranting about US software stacks (e.g.
LLVM), I will take the opportunity to add my 2 Euro-cents.
What about your operatjng system? I presume you are using Linux. Have you yet
audited the ca. 5 MLoc of code that are the Linux kernel? Other
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