Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-04 Thread Tomas Hlavaty
Hi Peter, not sure why but your email was displayed as empty by my mail reader. It has happened a few times before with other people's emails so I wonder what the problem could be? If there was a more liberal gpl-2 (think %s(must(should(g ) this would be fine - anybody could use it for

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-03 Thread Tomas Hlavaty
Hi Alex, The BSD license is _less_ restricted. I think it depends on your definition of less restrictive. BSD licence is actually more restrictive from the users point of view, e.g. somebody can take it and restrict or block users access to the modified source code. Giving away per se is not

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-03 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Tomas, On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 09:16:12AM +0200, Tomas Hlavaty wrote: I think it depends on your definition of less restrictive. BSD licence is actually more restrictive from the users point of view, e.g. somebody can take it and restrict or block users access to the modified source code.

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-03 Thread Peter Fischer
On 03.08.2010 09:31, Alexander Burger wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 09:16:12AM +0200, Tomas Hlavaty wrote: Agreed, but the new licence would encurage taking away as opposed to giving away. I don't think so. If somebody takes it, modifies it, or does whatever she likes, it does in no

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-03 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Peter, On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 05:08:11PM +0200, Peter Fischer wrote: some kind of embrace and extend (like what happened to kerberos after win 2k), so that the market would later force you to support industry standards, parts of which are patented and/or expensive. Oops, that's tough.

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-03 Thread Alexander Burger
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 05:08:11PM +0200, Peter Fischer wrote: So if you want some part/aspect of picolisp to be free and open forever, put these files unter LGPL and the rest under BSD. Thinking more about this, I must say that probably there isn't anything which can be protected. What is

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-03 Thread Benjamin Pollack
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Thinking more about this, I must say that probably there isn't anything which can be protected. What is PicoLisp? A collection of ideas, data structures, language constructs, perhaps a programming philosophy.

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 08:29:52AM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: Hi all, as this discussion popped up recently and in the past, and will surely pop up in the future: What do you think if PicoLisp were released under the BSD license instead of GPL? I would love it. I could imagine embedding

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread Edwin Eyan Moragas
Hi Alex, all, On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi all, as this discussion popped up recently and in the past, and will surely pop up in the future: What do you think if PicoLisp were released under the BSD license instead of GPL? i go for BSD.

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread Mansur Mamkin
Hi all, Hi all, as this discussion popped up recently and in the past, and will surely pop up in the future: What do you think if PicoLisp were released under the BSD license instead of GPL? Why not? It would be great to see PicoLisp under BDS license -- UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread Mansur Mamkin
Hi all, Hi all, as this discussion popped up recently and in the past, and will surely pop up in the future: What do you think if PicoLisp were released under the BSD license instead of GPL? Why not? It would be great to see PicoLisp under BDS license Oops, sorry, I mean BSD --

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel Elliott
Hello. Does the GPL affect code that I write that runs on PicoLisp, or just changes to the PicoLisp interpreter? If only changes to the interpreter are affected, than GPL is the way to go as far as I am concerned. However, I should add that many large companies (at least in the US) are

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread Edwin Eyan Moragas
Hi Dan, all, On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Daniel Elliott danelliotts...@gmail.com w= rote: Hello. Does the GPL affect code that I write that runs on PicoLisp, or just changes to the PicoLisp interpreter? picoLisp is made up of 1) the interpreter and 2) libraries and support files that

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread José Romero
El Mon, 2 Aug 2010 15:20:06 +0800 Edwin Eyan Moragas e...@yndy.org escribi=C3=B3: Hi Alex, all, =20 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: Hi all, as this discussion popped up recently and in the past, and will surely pop up in the future: What do

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread Tomas Hlavaty
Hi Alex, For me it is critical, as my economic survival depends on it. Do you mean that your economic survival depends on changing the licence to BSD? Then yes, because without you there is no PicoLisp;-) What do you think if PicoLisp were released under the BSD license instead of GPL?

Re: PL vs. BSD License

2010-08-02 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Tomas, For me it is critical, as my economic survival depends on it. Do you mean that your economic survival depends on changing the licence to BSD? Then yes, because without you there is no PicoLisp;-) No, it does not depend directly on the licensing issue ;-) But on PicoLisp in