Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

On Monday, November 9, 2015 11:38:42 PM CET kainz.a wrote: > Yes different communication systems are one of the main problem. Different > tasks are the second problem. When I read the VDG forum threads or the > Telegram thread there was discussion about some stuff but less than 5% are > bugfixing

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

as I start the discussion I have to say a few words 1. I understand you. I understand that big changes are a problem and collaboration is not that easy. 2. I start this discussion to have in the end an better cooperation. I am not happy with the process now cause I don't know how it works. an

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

> > the thing is that we are depanded to an programmer but the programmer > isn't related and when we make something by alone like the plasma theme or > icons we get the message you have to ask first. > Yes. All of us ask permission for all changes we make. You've seen us do that. You can

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

Hi, On Monday, November 09, 2015 01:10:41 AM Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hello folks, this afternoon my time, a discussion started in #plasma > with some rather upset designers, who said that they felt they are > treated by the Plasma devels as children. > > I waded into that discussion, and am

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

On Monday, November 9, 2015 11:38:42 PM CET kainz.a wrote: > Yes different communication systems are one of the main problem. Different > tasks are the second problem. When I read the VDG forum threads or the > Telegram thread there was discussion about some stuff but less than 5% are > bugfixing

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

Hi, 2015-11-09 22:52 GMT+01:00 David Edmundson : > the thing is that we are depanded to an programmer but the programmer >> isn't related and when we make something by alone like the plasma theme or >> icons we get the message you have to ask first. >> > > Yes. All

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

On Monday 09 November 2015, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hello folks, this afternoon my time, a discussion started in #plasma > with some rather upset designers, who said that they felt they are > treated by the Plasma devels as children. I'm sorry if i sounded like that, wasn't the intention :/

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

On Monday 09 November 2015, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hello folks, this afternoon my time, a discussion started in #plasma > with some rather upset designers, who said that they felt they are > treated by the Plasma devels as children. I'm sorry if i sounded like that, wasn't the intention :/

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

On Monday 09 November 2015 01:10:41 Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > First, are all the designers on this list? If not, it's difficult to > have a dialog. Please make sure that at least andreas_k and uriherrera > (irc nicks) become part of this conversation. After all, they are > Plasma devels. Just

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

Hi all, Before I chime in: 'developer' is the term commonly used for 'programmers' - at least in the IT world. Other professions have other meanings for the word like in civil engineering). And, even if we start using the word to mean something else, nobody else will. The account is for that

Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

Hello folks, this afternoon my time, a discussion started in #plasma with some rather upset designers, who said that they felt they are treated by the Plasma devels as children. I waded into that discussion, and am reluctant to write to the list about it, but I think there are some issues here

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

My thoughts on this are two-fold: (a) Non-VDG devs generally shouldn't question VDG dev decisions in detail and avoid push-back on small issues. The VDG is still a relatively new institution and needs to be given the latitude to try things, build up institutional knowledge (and learn