Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-28 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:42:44 AM UTC Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 22 December 2016 09:10:11 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Go for it. And then let's talk where else we have to change things to > > streamline our branding. > > > > I'm glad we have reached a consensus. > > done, the

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-22 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 22 December 2016 09:10:11 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Go for it. And then let's talk where else we have to change things to > streamline our branding. > > I'm glad we have reached a consensus. done, the most visible places use the plasma logo now -- Marco Martin

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-22 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Friday, December 16, 2016 10:49:14 AM UTC Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 07 December 2016 13:58:34 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > > About half a year ago this thread started and so far no actual change has > > happened. > > > > > > > > The background is that the past logo for Plasma Desktop was

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-17 Thread Ivan Čukić
> If there aren't furtherobjection, I would shortly (next week?) change the 2 > most visible logos: the start-here-kde icon in plasma theme for Instead, I'd advise creating start-here-plasma - both the icon and the plasma theme icon - and making it the default*. The main reason being - user

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 07 December 2016 13:58:34 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > About half a year ago this thread started and so far no actual change has > happened. > > The background is that the past logo for Plasma Desktop was disagreed upon > by the Plasma developer team and they wanted a new one. Thomas

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 December 2016 00:43:28 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:58:34 PM UTC Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Personally I find it important that the developers have a say in what > > the logo is. I think we identify by it and the logo needs to work with > > us. > > We did

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-08 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 1:58:34 PM UTC Jens Reuterberg wrote: > About half a year ago this thread started and so far no actual change has > happened. That's embarrasing. :-( Thanks for bringing this topic up, though. > The background is that the past logo for Plasma Desktop was

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-08 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 3:51:39 PM UTC Ken Vermette wrote: > Here's my proposal: we get a form up tomorrow, put it on plasma-devel > mailing lists. We set the voting deadline to December 23rd midnight, giving > the vote just over two weeks. That gives us a time to commit the new logo > to

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-08 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:58:34 PM UTC Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Personally I find it important that the developers have a say in what > the logo is. I think we identify by it and the logo needs to work with > us. We did have a say, more than one (on the forums, we had the logo's posted

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-07 Thread Ken Vermette
I think this is likely the best and most expedient idea. Just list all the potential logotypes and have everyone score every logo on a scale. Whichever logo has the highest score becomes the Plasma logo. If there's a tie the VDG serves as tiebreaker. If everyone is O.K. with something like Google

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 2016-12-07 18:04, schrieb Marco Martin: Hi Jens, Thanks to make this rolling again! and yes, is massively about time to decide something On Wednesday 07 December 2016 13:58:34 Jens Reuterberg wrote: #1 means that we with a high level of chance will go to the Plasma logo we had before this

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-07 Thread Marco Martin
Hi Jens, Thanks to make this rolling again! and yes, is massively about time to decide something On Wednesday 07 December 2016 13:58:34 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > #1 means that we with a high level of chance will go to the Plasma logo we > had before this started. There is zero criticism against it

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-12-07 Thread Jens Reuterberg
About half a year ago this thread started and so far no actual change has happened. The background is that the past logo for Plasma Desktop was disagreed upon by the Plasma developer team and they wanted a new one. Thomas created a competition of sorts which had a lot of suggestions in it.

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-23 Thread Clemens Toennies
On Monday 22 August 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: >/As per the Plasma team's request, I have now created a Wiki page with all />/submissions as presented in the forum, and - where available - how they

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-23 Thread Ivan Čukić
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:22 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer > Yes, this is indeed a problem. Originally we were looking for a logo, > but we don't think that a logo which is not visible anywhere in the > desktop itself has much of a chance of actually becoming recognized. I agree. But if we had planned

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 22.08.2016 23:59, Ivan Čukić wrote: I'll chime in as well. First of all the main problem I have with this 'searching for the new logo' is that we are not really searching for the new Plasma logo, but an icon that could replace the k-gear one Yes, this is indeed a problem. Originally we were

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-22 Thread Ivan Čukić
I'll chime in as well. First of all the main problem I have with this 'searching for the new logo' is that we are not really searching for the new Plasma logo, but an icon that could replace the k-gear one 1: the last version seems interesting, but I'm not sure I'd want it for the launcher. 2 -

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-22 Thread Alessandro Longo
Il 22-08-2016 11:43 Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: As per the Plasma team's request, I have now created a Wiki page with all submissions as presented in the forum, and - where available - how they would look in a Panel. You can find that page here:

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-22 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 22 August 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > As per the Plasma team's request, I have now created a Wiki page with all > submissions as presented in the forum, and - where available - how they > would look in a Panel. > You can find that page here: >

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
As per the Plasma team's request, I have now created a Wiki page with all submissions as presented in the forum, and - where available - how they would look in a Panel. You can find that page here: https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/Plasma_Logo_Contest Each submission now has a

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-19 Thread Alessandro Longo
Il 19-08-2016 16:19 Olivier Churlaud ha scritto: Il 11-08-2016 11:37 Ivan Čukić ha scritto: Hi all, For anyone interested I've also posted the SVG file (Andreas asked for it): https://share.kde.org/index.php/s/0HRcGXCt6UCEWxp Cheers, Ivan I updated it with the last version of my logo

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-18 Thread Alessandro Longo
Il 11-08-2016 11:37 Ivan Čukić ha scritto: Hi all, For anyone interested I've also posted the SVG file (Andreas asked for it): https://share.kde.org/index.php/s/0HRcGXCt6UCEWxp Cheers, Ivan I updated it with the last version of my logo (posted on Forums) plus a new version:

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-11 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, For anyone interested I've also posted the SVG file (Andreas asked for it): https://share.kde.org/index.php/s/0HRcGXCt6UCEWxp Cheers, Ivan

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-11 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi, When I said that I don't really find any of these fitting as a launcher icon, I obviously excluded the K-gear logo - was thinking about the new proposals. Though, the fact that K-gear looks better than the rest might be because we are all accustomed to that one. The same goes for the current

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-10 Thread kainz.a
2016-08-10 23:16 GMT+02:00 Ivan Čukić : > Hi all, > > I've put a few of the ideas on a panel - both on a light theme, and on > a dark one. Also without any icon background, and on the blue > rectangle. > > It also has the current KDE logo for reference. > >

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, I've put a few of the ideas on a panel - both on a light theme, and on a dark one. Also without any icon background, and on the blue rectangle. It also has the current KDE logo for reference. https://share.kde.org/index.php/s/b9sMKE3Nl9whJiQ I'm a bit sad to say that I don't really

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-10 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 10:37:07 AM UTC kainz.a wrote: > as there is no new mail since 2 days how can we find a new logo? > > 1. poll of the existing logos > 2. irc/hangout meeting with plasma vdg and the icon designers > 3. git push I think consensus is that we're lacking an overview,

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-10 Thread kainz.a
as there is no new mail since 2 days how can we find a new logo? 1. poll of the existing logos 2. irc/hangout meeting with plasma vdg and the icon designers 3. git push andreas

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-08 Thread Aleix Pol
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Andres Betts wrote: > Hey Sebas, > > Thanks for understanding. As I mentioned before my intention is not > necessarily that don't change my proposal but that we can create more > proposals to show variety. We cannot settle just on 2 orignal

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-08 Thread Andres Betts
Hey Sebastian, Let me explain the reasons about changing the logo and what stage this is at. In my personal view, after working for some time on coming up with a new logo proposal, we received a few comments and changes to it that, to me, had no backing. One idea was shared that others wanted my

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-08 Thread Andres Betts
Hey Sebas, Thanks for understanding. As I mentioned before my intention is not necessarily that don't change my proposal but that we can create more proposals to show variety. We cannot settle just on 2 orignal proposals and then merge the two to see what comes out. I am pretty sure there many

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-07 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 07 August 2016, Clemens Toennies wrote: > 2016-08-07 8:19 GMT+02:00 Ivan Čukić https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel>>: > >//>/Do you have screenshots? />//>/Cheers, />/Ivan / > > Here is some variant from Uris logo to be used as startbutton: >

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-07 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 02 August 2016, Ken Vermette wrote: > I don't mean to be "that guy", but he submitted his logo under the LGPLv3, > signalling that everyone has the right to modify his work. I'm not saying > this because I have a horse in this race, I'm saying it because, frankly, > the idea that we

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-07 Thread Clemens Toennies
2016-08-07 8:19 GMT+02:00 Ivan Čukić https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel>>: >//>/Do you have screenshots? />//>/Cheers, />/Ivan / Here is some variant from Uris logo to be used as startbutton: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4eyofwx1kiqyq9g/plasma-icons-uri.png?dl=0 Note this mod is

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-07 Thread kainz.a
when I have time I can do it for all logos. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/KF5/plasma-logo.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/KF5/plasmaLogoUri.png cheers Andreas 2016-08-07 8:19 GMT+02:00 Ivan Čukić : > Andreas, > > Do you have

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-07 Thread Ivan Čukić
Andreas, Do you have screenshots? Cheers, Ivan

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-06 Thread kainz.a
Hi I tested the different logo examples as kicker icon in the panel and best fit's the "old" plasma icon from uri. 2016-08-05 15:40 GMT+02:00 Andres Betts : > Hey Sebas, > > Thanks for understanding. As I mentioned before my intention is not > necessarily that don't

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hi Andres, Sorry it took a few days to reply. On dinsdag 2 augustus 2016 07:45:10 CEST Andres Betts wrote: > Let me explain the reasons about changing the logo and what stage this is > at. In my personal view, after working for some time on coming up with a > new logo proposal, we received a few

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-02 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 02.08.2016 16:31, Ken Vermette wrote: I don't mean to be "that guy", but he submitted his logo under the LGPLv3, signalling that everyone has the right to modify his work. I'm not saying this because I have a horse in this race, I'm saying it because, frankly, the idea that we "aren't

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-02 Thread Ivan Čukić
Just for completeness - Andy's response: > Hey Ivan, thanks for asking. At this time, I want to keep that logo as is, > without drastic modifications. Maybe one can make the argument that > including more elements has a background and a reason. But at this > point, I want to keep this logo the

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-02 Thread Ivan Čukić
Thomas: > The VDG is fine with his proposal as is, but the Plasma team did > not seem to 100% happy with it. As far as I'm concerned, 'not 100% happy' is an understatement. It has nice visuals, but it is not a brand, nor is it recognizable. Ken: > With all due respect to Anditosan, I think he

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-02 Thread Ken Vermette
I don't mean to be "that guy", but he submitted his logo under the LGPLv3, signalling that everyone has the right to modify his work. I'm not saying this because I have a horse in this race, I'm saying it because, frankly, the idea that we "aren't allowed" to collaborate and remix artwork in an

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-02 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 02.08.2016 16:08, Sebastian Kügler wrote: Why modify it after a contest? That would make the choice rather pointless, if it's going to be different aftwards anyway. Can you ask him to make the changes and send us the result, so we can judge based on that? Sure. So what changes would the

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-02 Thread Ivan Čukić
@Sebas We asked him whether he would allow changes to his proposal - mainly since we are here mostly considering Ken's modifications of Alex's and his work.* He seems not to like the idea of anyone altering his work - that he considered different modifications already, but stayed with the

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-02 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On dinsdag 2 augustus 2016 14:11:25 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 01.08.2016 15:11, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > So, it looks like there are two variants which people are quite fond of, > > Ken's modifications of Andy's logo (his fourth), and of Alex's logo (his > > second). > > > > The second

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-02 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 01.08.2016 15:11, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: So, it looks like there are two variants which people are quite fond of, Ken's modifications of Andy's logo (his fourth), and of Alex's logo (his second). The second has the advantage that it has elements of the KDE logo in it and can therefore be

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-01 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 01.08.2016 15:16, Marco Martin wrote: On Monday 01 August 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: But I don't give it a +1 on the 'bridge to the current logo' since /that/ Plasma logo is largely unknown (I'd give it +0.5 on that note - while v2 gets both +0.5 because of the recognizable KDE logo, and

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-01 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 01 August 2016, Marco Martin wrote: > > So, it looks like there are two variants which people are quite fond of, > > Ken's modifications of Andy's logo (his fourth), and of Alex's logo (his > > second). > > hmm, I'm a bit surprised, as I tought the leading ones so far were ken's >

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-01 Thread Ivan Čukić
> The disadvantages of the second one are that the gears become a bit > muddled in small sizes and it resembles the gear which is often used > as a settings icon, This 'disadvantage' is a bit artificial. I agree the gears would not be visible on small icon sizes. But small icons do not need to

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-01 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 01 August 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > But I don't give it a +1 on the 'bridge to the current logo' since > > /that/ Plasma logo is largely unknown (I'd give it +0.5 on that note - > > while v2 gets both +0.5 because of the recognizable KDE logo, and +0.5 > > for the current plasma 5

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-08-01 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 26.07.2016 18:21, Ivan Čukić wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 15:52:41 BST Sebastian Kügler wrote: bridge to the current logo. I quite like that one indeed. Quite keen on that one, yes :) It is one of my

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-28 Thread Olivier Churlaud
Ivan a écrit : The one that stands out for me is one of the Kver's mesh-ups. The one with a part of the current plasma logo '>' inside two pieces of a gear. The reason I find that one interesting is that we could use a part of it for the launcher icon if we wanted - just the '>'. We could

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Philipp Stefan
After some consideration I think I would pick anditosan's proposal. With my second being Kver's fourth icon. My reasoning is the following: - It's so simple a child could draw it - It's easily recognizable without being noisy - It's simplicity allows both flexibility and works well at different

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Ivan Čukić
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: > On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 15:52:41 BST Sebastian Kügler wrote: >> > bridge to the current logo. >> >> I quite like that one indeed. > > Quite keen on that one, yes :) It is one of my other favs, behind

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 15:52:41 BST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:54:26 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On 26.07.2016 14:03, Marco Martin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 26 July 2016 12:57:04 kainz.a wrote: > > >> I'm a fan of anditosan circle logo, > > >> > > >> cause it

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:54:26 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 26.07.2016 14:03, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 July 2016 12:57:04 kainz.a wrote: > >> I'm a fan of anditosan circle logo, > >> > >> cause it fit's in small size as an icon the breeze icon theme (thin 1px > >> elements)

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 26 July 2016 15:35:28 Ivan Čukić wrote: > The one that stands out for me is one of the Kver's mesh-ups. The one > with a part of the current plasma logo '>' inside two pieces of a > gear. > > The reason I find that one interesting is that we could use a part of > it for the launcher

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Ivan Čukić
> I kind of like it as is more smoother than the harsh usual gear. > however, I'm quite concerned that it looks very, very generic, not really much > recognizable This is my problem with it as well. The one that stands out for me is one of the Kver's mesh-ups. The one with a part of the current

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 26.07.2016 14:03, Marco Martin wrote: On Tuesday 26 July 2016 12:57:04 kainz.a wrote: I'm a fan of anditosan circle logo, cause it fit's in small size as an icon the breeze icon theme (thin 1px elements) AND it fit's as a logo in larger size like anditosan show with the logo on different

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 26 July 2016 12:57:04 kainz.a wrote: > I'm a fan of anditosan circle logo, > > cause it fit's in small size as an icon the breeze icon theme (thin 1px > elements) AND it fit's as a logo in larger size like anditosan show with > the logo on different background. > > from the semantic

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 26.07.2016 12:57, kainz.a wrote: The idea behind Quiralta logo is nice but in our HIG's is written the color can't be the only difference. As he has shown, that logo works in monochrome, too, so this would be no problem. The colors are just additional styling, they are not necessary to

Re: Selecting a Plasma logo

2016-07-26 Thread kainz.a
I'm a fan of anditosan circle logo, cause it fit's in small size as an icon the breeze icon theme (thin 1px elements) AND it fit's as a logo in larger size like anditosan show with the logo on different background. from the semantic point of view the circle logo show best what the word plasma