Plasma 6.1 release manager

2024-05-24 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Plasma 6.1 tars are due on Thu 13 June and release Tue 18 June. I'm going to be away on holiday paddling under the midnight sun in Norwary during this time. Would anyone else like to be release manager? Jonathan

plasma pass release

2024-02-25 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Hi Dan, can I make a plasma pass release so that it builds with Plasma 6? Jonathan

Re: Wayland Nvidia situation for initial Plasma 6 release

2024-02-07 Thread David Redondo
Am Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024, 10:37:13 CET schrieb Kai Uwe Broulik: > Hi, > > plasma-integration already (which I am NOT happy about!) creates a GL > context to check whether to use software rendering, there we could also > check the GL_VENDOR and set basic render loop. > Yes we did that in 5

Re: Wayland Nvidia situation for initial Plasma 6 release

2024-02-07 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
Hi, plasma-integration already (which I am NOT happy about!) creates a GL context to check whether to use software rendering, there we could also check the GL_VENDOR and set basic render loop. But backporting won’t hurt either way I’d say. Cheers Kai Uwe Am 07.02.24 um 10:13 schrieb David

Wayland Nvidia situation for initial Plasma 6 release

2024-02-07 Thread David Redondo
Hi, when using Wayland on Nvidia there is a significant problem that QtQuick windows freeze when resized, this can also manifest in plasma popups sometimes not showing up. ref. https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-95817 This can be worked around with using the basic render loop instead of the

Re: git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-07 Thread Jonathan Riddell
That's on my todo for today :) Jonathan On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 21:55, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 11:21 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > > Diff from 5.27 > > -aura-browser > > -aura-browser > > +kactivities > > +kactivities-stats > > -khotkeys > > -krdp > > +kwayland > >

Re: git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 11:21 AM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > Diff from 5.27 > -aura-browser > -aura-browser > +kactivities > +kactivities-stats > -khotkeys > -krdp > +kwayland > -plank-player > -plank-player > -plasma-bigscreen > +plasma-framework > -plasma-remotecontrollers > +plasma5support >

Re: git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-06 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Good point, I've added in kglobalacceld now Jonathan On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 at 17:51, Antonio Rojas wrote: > El lunes, 6 de noviembre de 2023 17:21:06 (CET) Jonathan Riddell escribió: > > > Diff from 5.27 > > Hi, > > What about kglobalacceld? > > > > >

Re: git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-06 Thread Antonio Rojas
El lunes, 6 de noviembre de 2023 17:21:06 (CET) Jonathan Riddell escribió: > Diff from 5.27 Hi, What about kglobalacceld?

git-repositories-for-release

2023-11-06 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Diff from 5.27 -aura-browser -aura-browser +kactivities +kactivities-stats -khotkeys -krdp +kwayland -plank-player -plank-player -plasma-bigscreen +plasma-framework -plasma-remotecontrollers +plasma5support +print-manager +wacomtablet Complete list: bluedevil breeze breeze-grub breeze-gtk

Re: MegaRelease Freezes - Re: Release schedule proposal for the February MegaRelease

2023-10-02 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 12:29 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > El dimarts, 26 de setembre de 2023, a les 0:28:15 (CEST), Albert Astals Cid va > escriure: > > https://community.kde.org/Schedules/February_2024_MegaRelease > > > > Beta 1 is during Qt World Summit that is not ideal but I guess doable?

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-10 Thread Albert Astals Cid
inters. > >> > >> Given no one did seem to oppose so far, I would consider to switch > >> Kate to Qt > >> 6 in master next Wednesday and start the bit Qt 6 run :) > > > > When you switch a branch to qt6, please remember to ping the > > translati

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-10 Thread christoph
ot;, "stable": "none", "stable_kf5": "release/23.08", "trunk_kf5": "master"} Would it be something like: {"trunk": "master", "stable": "none", "stable_kf5": "release/23.08", "trunk_kf5": "none"} Greetings Christoph

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-09 Thread Luigi Toscano
christ...@cullmann.io ha scritto: > On 2023-09-05 23:08, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >> El dimarts, 5 de setembre de 2023, a les 22:42:13 (CEST), >> christ...@cullmann.io va escriure: >>> On 2023-09-04 22:59, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >>> > El dilluns, 4 de setembre de 2023, a les 18:50:45 (CEST),

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-09 Thread christoph
e the i18n branch information Anything else I am missing? Hi, Thanks for the additional pointers. Given no one did seem to oppose so far, I would consider to switch Kate to Qt 6 in master next Wednesday and start the bit Qt 6 run :) (If nothing comes up here) The everybody had a week to chi

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-09 Thread christoph
://invent.kde.org/utilities/kate/-/blob/master/.gitlab-ci.yml?ref_type=heads and require KF 6 + Qt 6 in the CMake files or is there additional stuff that needs updates to avoids one breaks stuff? Greetings Christoph - The KDE Gear release will move by 2 months to allow for the extra time needed

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-05 Thread Albert Astals Cid
info But this is autogenerated by Nico scripts nowadays so... maybe not? or prod him to run the script? projects/*/*/i18n.json to update the i18n branch information Anything else I am missing? Cheers, Albert > > Greetings > Christoph > > >> - The KDE Gear rel

Re: Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-04 Thread Albert Astals Cid
er will be open for Qt6 code to land for those > ready to move. Not all apps need to port. For the trigger happy among us... This is a plan/proposal, let's give people at least one week to comment/ disagree on it before making master Qt6-only for Gear apps. > > - The KDE Gear release will m

Frameworks / Plasma/ Gear Release Schedule Plan

2023-09-04 Thread David Edmundson
Following on from the last Akademy we checked where we were with our development progress in a meeting and settled on the following plan for all 3 major parts: - In KDE Gear master will be open for Qt6 code to land for those ready to move. Not all apps need to port. - The KDE Gear release

Re: Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-09-04 Thread David Edmundson
As a reminder this meeting is tonight in 3 hours. David

Re: Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-08-22 Thread David Edmundson
Video call at https://meet.kde.org/b/ada-mi8-aem

Re: Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-08-22 Thread Nate Graham
Thanks for organizing this, David. Where and how will the meeting be held? Nate On 8/22/23 09:22, David Edmundson wrote: A time has been chosen on the poll with a clear winner: 4th September 18:00 CEST See you all there David Edmundson

Re: Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-08-22 Thread David Edmundson
A time has been chosen on the poll with a clear winner: 4th September 18:00 CEST See you all there David Edmundson

Planning the final 6 release timeframes

2023-08-17 Thread David Edmundson
As discussed at Akademy we need to finalize the release of KF6 / Applications with 6 and Plasma 6. Applications can't release without Plasma (for Breeze + Plasma Integration) Plasma is weakened without kio-extras Both depend on Frameworks which needs a final release. We want to be fairly synced

help needed with 5.27.7 release

2023-07-31 Thread Jonathan Riddell
5.27.7 is scheduled for Tuesday August 8th. I'm away on adoption leave and won't be available that day, the best I can do is say I might be able to squeeze it in somewhere in the following two weeks. If anyone else wants to do it let me know and I'll take you through how it's done. Jonathan

Re: New bugfix release for plasma-workspace

2022-09-19 Thread Nate Graham
). The former is a regression introduced in 5.25.5. Instead of hoping distros will apply those themselves I propose we make a 5.25.5.1 release for plasma-workspace. Cheers Nico

New bugfix release for plasma-workspace

2022-09-17 Thread Nicolas Fella
. Instead of hoping distros will apply those themselves I propose we make a 5.25.5.1 release for plasma-workspace. Cheers Nico

Re: 5.24 LTS release dates

2022-05-06 Thread Aleix Pol
Sounds good, thanks Jonathan! Aleix On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > I'm proposing Tuesday July 5 for a 5.24.6LTS release. It's 11 weeks after > the 5.24.5 release and is mostly timed to be useful to Kubuntu. > > Jonathan > > > On Thu, 5 May

Re: 5.24 LTS release dates

2022-05-06 Thread Jonathan Riddell
I'm proposing Tuesday July 5 for a 5.24.6LTS release. It's 11 weeks after the 5.24.5 release and is mostly timed to be useful to Kubuntu. Jonathan On Thu, 5 May 2022 at 10:34, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Does anyone have a request for a release date for the next or following > 5.

5.24 LTS release dates

2022-05-05 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Does anyone have a request for a release date for the next or following 5.24 LTS releases? I've had one from Kubuntu asking "the .6 is at least a few weeks to a month before the 22.04.1 point release on August 4" Any more? Jonathan

Re: plasma-phone-components release process

2022-02-14 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Sensible enough, but the developers do need to follow Plasma's release schedule then. Changing name after repo freeze shouldn't happen. Nor should adding new dependencies or depending on versions of Frameworks newer than our release specifies https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-mobile/-/commit

Re: plasma-phone-components release process

2022-02-08 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 3:21 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > plasma-phone-components is released as part of Plasma which has an > established release process that we review at the start of each cycle. This > time it was renamed after the repo freeze and after the beta

plasma-phone-components release process

2022-02-08 Thread Jonathan Riddell
plasma-phone-components is released as part of Plasma which has an established release process that we review at the start of each cycle. This time it was renamed after the repo freeze and after the beta which causes unpredictable problems in the packaging process. Should plasma-phone-components

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-25 Thread Neal Gompa
5.23 during F35 Beta or F35 Final. A big part of why I was comfortable with switching to Wayland by default[3] for Fedora Linux 34 was that I was shipping the latest in-development release at that time. Looking at the schedule now, we're basically going to have to sit out of Plasma 5.23 like we did f

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-25 Thread David Edmundson
We discussed this some more, and we are not in favour of moving forwards for Fedora: Reasons given were: - It either cuts into our beta period, or causes us issues with framework releases. - Fedora has regular releases anyway - It collides with the promo plans above - .0 releases tend to not

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Paul Brown
On Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:59:37 CEST Nate Graham wrote: > Hello release folks! > > Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've > been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed > that if we bump up the release by one week--shipping on

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Ianseeks
On Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:59:37 BST Nate Graham wrote: > Hello release folks! > > Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've > been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed > that if we bump up the release by one week-

Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Seems a friendly thing to do. We can discuss it during the kickoff session at akademy. Jonathan On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 14:59, Nate Graham wrote: > Hello release folks! > > Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've > been talking with the Fedora pac

Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Nate Graham
Hello release folks! Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed that if we bump up the release by one week--shipping on 31 September--then they can ship Plasma 5.23 in Fedora 35. Is this something

Moving plasma-frameworks & krunner to Plasma release set for *6? (was: Re: KF6 meeting notes 2021-04-17)

2021-04-23 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
eople, and find out which tasks are really blockers for KF 6.0 and which > are not. In fact several Plasma items are not really blockers for KF6. > > In the worst case, the first plasma-frameworks release could be delayed > until Plasma 6 is closer to be ready. Other frameworks don't depe

Re: Moving plasma-frameworks & krunner to Plasma release set for *6? (was: Re: KF6 meeting notes 2021-04-17)

2021-04-20 Thread Marco Martin
On sabato 17 aprile 2021 16:38:32 CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > It seems these days the only real user of plasma-frameworks & krunner > libraries is the Plasma shell itself, with other applications only providing > plugins/extensions and only targeting Plasma again. IIRC Amarok was the >

Re: Moving plasma-frameworks & krunner to Plasma release set for *6? (was: Re: KF6 meeting notes 2021-04-17)

2021-04-19 Thread David Edmundson
> It seems these days the only real user of plasma-frameworks & krunner > libraries is the Plasma shell itself, with other applications only providing > plugins/extensions and only targeting Plasma again. That is mostly in line with other discussions in plasma. There is a ticket splitting

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2021-01-18 Thread Niccolò Ve
Hi, sorry to bring this up again, but I would be in favor of a switching to 2 releases every year. I'd like to add some reasons to do that on the promotional side: 1) In Promo, we are quite stepping up our game in the quality of announcements, to both the website and the release video. We

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2021-01-07 Thread Carl Schwan
in the quality of > announcements, to both the website and the release video. We are already a > bit stretched out with time, and having more of that to prepare each release > would benefit us, especially if we intend - and I think we do - to improve > our work even further. I don't ag

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2021-01-07 Thread Ilya Bizyaev
of announcements, to both the website and the release video. We are already a bit stretched out with time, and having more of that to prepare each release would benefit us, especially if we intend - and I think we do - to improve our work even further. 2) We have measured that doing less

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2021-01-07 Thread niccolo
Hi, sorry to bring this up again, but I would be in favor of a switching to 2 releases every year. I'd like to add some reasons to do that on the promotional side: 1) In Promo, we are quite stepping up our game in the quality of announcements, to both the website and the release

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2020-12-01 Thread Niccolò Ve
a week of > each other, with relatively predictable release schedules. > Unfortunately, new KDE/Plasma releases happen a little bit too late for them > to > be included in those distributions in time for the release. Thus the current > version of KDE/Plamsa in both Fedora and Kubuntu is

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2020-12-01 Thread Jonathan Riddell
We discussed this in the Plasma meeting on Monday and I'm afraid there's little appetite in moving to a 6 monthly release or a 3 monthly release. We did used to have a 3 monthly schedule but that is too tight given the length of beta and freezes we want to have now. But also 6 monthly feels too

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2020-11-26 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 10:38 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 10:25 AM Aleix Pol wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 5:10 PM David Edmundson > > wrote: > >>> > >>> As distribution package maintainers, we would like Plasma

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2020-11-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 10:25 AM Aleix Pol wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 5:10 PM David Edmundson > wrote: >>> >>> As distribution package maintainers, we would like Plasma developers to >>> slightly alter the release schedule to align releases with a m

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2020-11-26 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 5:10 PM David Edmundson wrote: > As distribution package maintainers, we would like Plasma developers to >> slightly alter the release schedule to align releases with a more >> distribution friendly cycle. You could consider shortening one release >>

Re: Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2020-11-24 Thread David Edmundson
> > As distribution package maintainers, we would like Plasma developers to > slightly alter the release schedule to align releases with a more > distribution friendly cycle. You could consider shortening one release > cycle (and then keep the 6 month schedule) to align relea

Synchronized release schedule for Plasma

2020-11-24 Thread Timothée Ravier
Hi KDE/Plasma developers! Nowadays, Fedora and Kubuntu make new releases twice a year within a week of each other, with relatively predictable release schedules. Unfortunately, new KDE/Plasma releases happen a little bit too late for them to be included in those distributions in time

Re: GitLab - merging fixes from release branch into master

2020-05-24 Thread Konrad Materka
niedz., 24 maj 2020 o 20:17 Nate Graham wrote: > Land it on Plasma/5.19, then manually merge Plasma/5.19 into master, > same as before. OK, thank you for confirmation. -- Regards: Konrad Materka

Re: GitLab - merging fixes from release branch into master

2020-05-24 Thread Nate Graham
Materka wrote: Hi, What is the current procedure of merging fixes from release branch back into master? For example I made a fix for Plasma/5.19 but I want it in master as well. Merge Request from Plasma/5.19 into master has conflicts, how to fix them in new GitLab flow? Sorry if it was discussed

GitLab - merging fixes from release branch into master

2020-05-24 Thread Konrad Materka
Hi, What is the current procedure of merging fixes from release branch back into master? For example I made a fix for Plasma/5.19 but I want it in master as well. Merge Request from Plasma/5.19 into master has conflicts, how to fix them in new GitLab flow? Sorry if it was discussed already, but I

5.19 release announce notes

2020-05-11 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Beta on Thursday so please add features for the announce pronto. https://share.kde.org/apps/files/?dir=/Community%20Notes/Plasma=1718757 (sort by modified date, edit Plasma 5.19.md) or reply here Jonathan

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-03-20 Thread David Faure
On vendredi 20 mars 2020 12:16:09 CET David Edmundson wrote: > >> > Kirigami seems to be rather unstable, I wonder if anything can be done > >> > to > >> > improve upon that [*]. > >> > >> One important thing seems to have been getting sloppy in those repos; > >> mandatory code reviews. > >>

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-03-20 Thread David Edmundson
>> > Kirigami seems to be rather unstable, I wonder if anything can be done to >> > improve upon that [*]. > >> One important thing seems to have been getting sloppy in those repos; >> mandatory code reviews. >> That's an easy thing to enforce, and we know it makes a huge difference to >> code. >>

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Nate Graham
On 2/18/20 1:37 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: I still don't see why this is a problem, as said Plasma depends on a myriad of libraries that are building each with their own release model, most probably with no bugfix releases at all either. The "we don't control the whole stack" arg

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Nate Graham
Frameworks release to accompany the Plasma LTS release: to better support our non-Neon downstreams who want to freeze on the Plasma LTS releases. Right now we're pushing the job of backporting bugfixes to Frameworks onto them, rather than making it easy by just giving them tarballs. We can ar

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Luca Beltrame
In data martedì 18 febbraio 2020 19:26:21 CET, Nate Graham ha scritto: > Neon is already an OS, whether or not you want to admit it. It's > installed from an ISO. A hardware vendor (Slimbook) is shipping it on Erm, where did I say that in my reply? ;) I merely say that going "Neon or else

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Albert Astals Cid
solve the fundamental > incompatibility between the Plasma LTS product, which is built around > the release model of extended, ongoing bugfix releases, and Frameworks, > which is built around a rolling release model with no bugfix releases at > all. I still don't see why this is a

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread David Edmundson
; of KF, like non-workspace applications from KDE. > > Just to clarify something. "the Plasma team" is not unified in the position that there should be any changes to the current framework's release cycle. > So perhaps we could say that the KF version which happens to be the dep

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Nate Graham
here and maintain a matching LTS branch of Frameworks together at the central KDE repos together. Well, and a version also satisfying other clients of KF, like non-workspace applications from KDE. It's not a reason to change normal KF release cycle. I like that idea. So perhaps we could say that th

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Nate Graham
here and maintain a matching LTS branch of Frameworks together at the central KDE repos together. Well, and a version also satisfying other clients of KF, like non-workspace applications from KDE. It's not a reason to change normal KF release cycle. I like that idea. So perhaps we could say that th

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Nate Graham
On 2/17/20 11:08 PM, Luca Beltrame wrote: In data martedì 18 febbraio 2020 04:03:05 CET, Nate Graham ha scritto: think KDE software should be presented to users. Basically, we acknowledge that Neon is already an actual OS--the "KDE OS"--and we Please don't suggest such downstream-hostile

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
am va escriure: > >> On another note, I have to admit I'm starting to doubt how well our LTS > >> Plasma product works without a corresponding LTS frameworks release to > >> support it. We can fix bugs in software that uses the Plasma release > >> schedule till the cow

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-18 Thread Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
an ship to users of their own LTS releases. > > However all the autotests in the world will not resolve the fundamental > incompatibility between the Plasma LTS product, which is built around > the release model of extended, ongoing bugfix releases, and Frameworks, > which is bui

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-17 Thread Luca Beltrame
In data martedì 18 febbraio 2020 04:03:05 CET, Nate Graham ha scritto: > think KDE software should be presented to users. Basically, we > acknowledge that Neon is already an actual OS--the "KDE OS"--and we Please don't suggest such downstream-hostile solutions, in particular because this

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-17 Thread Nate Graham
tests are run before merging, etc. I think we can all agree with that. However all the autotests in the world will not resolve the fundamental incompatibility between the Plasma LTS product, which is built around the release model of extended, ongoing bugfix releases, and Frameworks, which

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-17 Thread Ben Cooksley
ert Astals Cid wrote: > > > El dimecres, 12 de febrer de 2020, a les 15:37:09 CET, Nate Graham va > escriure: > > >> On another note, I have to admit I'm starting to doubt how well our LTS > > >> Plasma product works without a corresponding LTS frameworks release to &

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-17 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:43 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > El diumenge, 16 de febrer de 2020, a les 22:34:51 CET, David Faure va > escriure: > > On dimanche 16 février 2020 22:17:17 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > This is their fault, they as a distribution have decided to support a > > >

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El diumenge, 16 de febrer de 2020, a les 22:34:51 CET, David Faure va escriure: > On dimanche 16 février 2020 22:17:17 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > This is their fault, they as a distribution have decided to support a random > > KDE Frameworks version for longer than we do support it, so they

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-16 Thread David Faure
On dimanche 16 février 2020 22:17:17 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote: > This is their fault, they as a distribution have decided to support a random > KDE Frameworks version for longer than we do support it, so they are the > ones that should be the job of supporting it. > > It's like you are trying

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El dissabte, 15 de febrer de 2020, a les 20:35:23 CET, Nate Graham va escriure: > On 2020-02-15 11:55, Ben Cooksley wrote: > > My point above was that the version you decide to freeze on should > > only be the version you depend on during development. > > The version you depen

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-16 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nate Graham wrote: > > On 2020-02-15 11:55, Ben Cooksley wrote: > > My point above was that the version you decide to freeze on should > > only be the version you depend on during development. > > The version you depend on when you release

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-15 Thread Nate Graham
On 2020-02-15 11:55, Ben Cooksley wrote: My point above was that the version you decide to freeze on should only be the version you depend on during development. The version you depend on when you release will be the next release of Frameworks (so by freezing on 5.66 for development, it should

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-15 Thread Ben Cooksley
s would allow for a full Frameworks > > release cycle to pass where bugs encountered during the lead up to the > > Plasma release can be fixed. > > > > This version of Frameworks would then be the one that Plasma hard depends > > on. > > We do this; Plasma 5

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-14 Thread Nate Graham
, and - surprise - cause problems all over the stack which require a bunch of Frameworks fixes? I agree, that should have been deferred to 5.19. Definitely a lack of discipline on our behalf. Another topic was the KUserFeedback KCM. There had been substantial changes also on release date

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-14 Thread Nate Graham
On 2020-02-13 00:42, Ben Cooksley wrote: A better way of approaching this would be to freeze the Frameworks version you are going to require API wise at an earlier point in the Plasma development cycle. This would allow for a full Frameworks release cycle to pass where bugs encountered during

Re: Plasma 5.18 release post-mortem

2020-02-14 Thread Nate Graham
, but if we want to take a firm stance on this, I think we need to branch much earlier. "Soft" feature freezes don't cut it. We should maybe branch two months before the release rather than one. Also, we can't branch Frameworks due to their inherently rolling nature. Some of the regres

Re: Plasma 5.18 release post-mortem

2020-02-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 5:40 PM Nate Graham wrote: > > Plasma 5.18 was a pretty buggy release, and I'd like to start a > discussion about how we think it happened and what we can do better next > time. Here are some of the top bugs that our users are reporting: I think we wanted to

Re: Plasma 5.18 release post-mortem

2020-02-13 Thread Nate Graham
On 2020-02-13 11:55, Vlad Zahorodnii wrote: On 2/13/20 8:11 PM, David Edmundson wrote: I'm also seeing a rising amount of pushing without review on the core repos.  I would like for us all to (nicely) call that out if we see any instances. Reviews are super important, the best time to fix a bug

Re: Plasma 5.18 release post-mortem

2020-02-13 Thread David Edmundson
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 6:55 PM Vlad Zahorodnii wrote: > > On 2/13/20 8:11 PM, David Edmundson wrote: > > I'm also seeing a rising amount of pushing without review on the core > > repos. I would like for us all to (nicely) call that out if we see > > any instances. Reviews are super important,

Re: Plasma 5.18 release post-mortem

2020-02-13 Thread Vlad Zahorodnii
On 2/13/20 8:11 PM, David Edmundson wrote: I'm also seeing a rising amount of pushing without review on the core repos. I would like for us all to (nicely) call that out if we see any instances. Reviews are super important, the best time to fix a bug is before it even happens. Even for small

Re: Plasma 5.18 release post-mortem

2020-02-13 Thread David Edmundson
The important part right now is that we get on top with fixing them. For 5.18 there was /wy/ too much feature pushing for this release. Even if the new stuff itself doesn't introduce breakages, it takes developer and review time away from what should be a month of being totally on top

Plasma 5.18 release post-mortem

2020-02-13 Thread Nate Graham
Plasma 5.18 was a pretty buggy release, and I'd like to start a discussion about how we think it happened and what we can do better next time. Here are some of the top bugs that our users are reporting: - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417424 [Can't enter edit mode if widgets were

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-13 Thread David Faure
On jeudi 13 février 2020 09:46:20 CET David Edmundson wrote: > > Kirigami seems to be rather unstable, I wonder if anything can be done to > > improve upon that [*]. > > One important thing seems to have been getting sloppy in those repos; > mandatory code reviews. > That's an easy thing to

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-13 Thread Ben Cooksley
eaking CI in the process) > > > > This means that other changes are likely being pushed into Frameworks > > by Plasma with very little delay as well. > > > > Consequently this means stuff is landing in Framework repositories up > > to the very moment it is released - a re

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-13 Thread Christoph Feck
by Plasma with very little delay as well. Consequently this means stuff is landing in Framework repositories up to the very moment it is released - a release that the next version of Plasma (LTS) then depends on. A better way of approaching this would be to freeze the Frameworks version you are going

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-12 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
eta feature freeze to be super strict, and even had release people do a "soft feature freeze" even before that. To minimize potential Frameworks dependency problems I would even go as far as put Feature freeze on same date as Frameworks tagging date so that no new stuff goes in that

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-12 Thread Ben Cooksley
lly I think it would be nice to have > >> 86f988434cd657e77cc9429e78f7290ce6b5713d since otherwise LTS Plasma > >> users will be hitting it for the next few years. > >> > >> --- > >> > >> On another note, I have to admit I'm starting to doubt how well our LT

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-12 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, Since I'm not on release-team I'm discovering this just now. On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:59:32 CET Nate Graham wrote: > [+ frameworks and plasma mailing lists] > > On 2020-02-12 11:31, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > El dimecres, 12 de febrer de 2020, a les 15:37:09 C

Re: 2 kirigami fixes for a point release

2020-02-12 Thread Nate Graham
will be hitting it for the next few years. --- On another note, I have to admit I'm starting to doubt how well our LTS Plasma product works without a corresponding LTS frameworks release to support it. We can fix bugs in software that uses the Plasma release schedule till the cows come home, but if the bug

D26125: [Notifications] Release all cookies when service unregisters

2019-12-20 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
This revision was automatically updated to reflect the committed changes. Closed by commit R120:1967dc08e3db: [Notifications] Release all cookies when service unregisters (authored by broulik). CHANGED PRIOR TO COMMIT https://phabricator.kde.org/D26125?vs=71905=71906#toc REPOSITORY R120

D26125: [Notifications] Release all cookies when service unregisters

2019-12-20 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
broulik created this revision. broulik added a reviewer: Plasma. Herald added a project: Plasma. Herald added a subscriber: plasma-devel. broulik requested review of this revision. REVISION SUMMARY An application could have multiple inhibitions. Release all of them when the service unregisters

5.17 Release notes

2019-09-13 Thread David Edmundson
As a reminder, if you added any new feature to Plasma 5.17 please add it to: https://notes.kde.org/p/plasma_5_17 so that we have all the information in advance for the people who write the release text David

Re: Plasma 2020 release schedules

2019-07-23 Thread Alexander Potashev
вт, 23 июл. 2019 г. в 19:04, Rik Mills : > > On 23/07/2019 16:53, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 > > Has someone made changes to how table formatting is done there, or on > the wiki as a whole? That lack of table lines and borked alignment looks >

Re: Plasma 2020 release schedules

2019-07-23 Thread Rik Mills
On 23/07/2019 16:53, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 Has someone made changes to how table formatting is done there, or on the wiki as a whole? That lack of table lines and borked alignment looks dreadful. > Distros, please say if you would like any of

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