[PLUG] FYI, emailing both p...@pdxlinux.org AND plug@lists.pdxlinux.org is NOT NECESSARY

2023-02-27 Thread Russell Senior
Please pick one. They both end up in the same place. All the duplicate emails are using up my monthly allocation of 1's. I have plenty of 0's, but if I run out of 1's, I need to buy more on the spot market and at the end of the month THEY GET EXPENSIVE. Thanks! -- Russell Senior

Re: [PLUG] Can someone enlighten me on H.265/HEVC

2023-02-27 Thread American Citizen
Ted I am running openSuse Leap 15.4 latest and attempted to run the https://test-videos.co.uk/bigbuckbunny/mp4-h265 video Mozilla Firefox gets codec error and aborts Brave, Opera, and Chrome all open the video window, then stall out. I wonder if someone should contact the Packman people on

Re: [PLUG] Can someone enlighten me on H.265/HEVC

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Try this: Go to the following in Firefox: https://test-videos.co.uk/bigbuckbunny/mp4-h265 Click Download on the first one - you will get the codec error If your CPU is Kaby Lake, try that on Chrome. If not, do it from the Debian-compiled Chromium off the link I posted and it will work.

Re: [PLUG] Can someone enlighten me on H.265/HEVC

2023-02-27 Thread MC_Sequoia
"Like I said the only option for Firefox, apparently, is downloading the H.265 video, transcoding it to H.264 via Ffmpeg, then viewing it in Firefox." I'm running Linux debian 4.19.0-22-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.260-1 (2022-09-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux with Firefox 102.5.Oesr and I can play this HEVC

Re: [PLUG] Can someone enlighten me on H.265/HEVC

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Just to add to this - the Brave web browser works exactly the same as the production Chrome browser works. (I understand it uses the Chromium engine so maybe that is why) It supports H.265 on a Kaby Lake and later CPU but not on a pre Kaby Lake CPU (at least, on Windows. I'll have to test on

Re: [PLUG] Remote work on downed server ( Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown )

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Paul Heinlein Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 12:06 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: Re: [PLUG] Remote work on downed server ( Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown ) >In this hypothetical

Re: [PLUG] Remote work on downed server ( Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown )

2023-02-27 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The problem with that is that the assessment itself is biased. If a business owner is doing the assessment they tend to bias against cost. But, what happens if a customer calls at the very moment your receptionist's PC is crashed, and she says

Re: [PLUG] Can someone enlighten me on H.265/HEVC

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On Ubuntu, ffmpeg and it's libraries are not installed by default, and Firefox is installed. However, even installing via apt install ffmpeg later, Firefox does not use those libraries, despite the fact that the installed ffmpeg is indeed compiled with --enable-libx265 and

Re: [PLUG] Remote work on downed server ( Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown )

2023-02-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Lost opportunity cost. It's not easy to quantify so the business owners doing the assessment on new gear tend to discount $downtimeRisk. Which is why So many small businesses remain small, to be perfectly frank. Ted, It's actually called

Re: [PLUG] Can someone enlighten me on H.265/HEVC

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I understand it but try explaining that to Reolink. What it boils down to for many is either you lose $1000 on buying a new catalytic converter when the skanks cut yours off and run off with it, or you fork over $300 in cameras and cabling you do yourself, plus some hours on an older PC, to

Re: [PLUG] Remote work on downed server ( Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown )

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
The problem with that is that the assessment itself is biased. If a business owner is doing the assessment they tend to bias against cost. But, what happens if a customer calls at the very moment your receptionist's PC is crashed, and she says "sorry I can't help my computer is down" And that

Re: [PLUG] Can someone enlighten me on H.265/HEVC

2023-02-27 Thread carl day
Maybe distros are different, using Archlinux Firefox depends on ffmpeg, ffmpeg depends on libx265 [can make Chrome/Chromium unGooGled] On 2/27/23, MC_Sequoia wrote: > "Is it possible to get Firefox to display HEVC videos? Everything I have > read indicates the Mozilla developers have some

Re: [PLUG] Question on Backintime backup program and "boot/reboot" option

2023-02-27 Thread Richard England
Yes, I have crontab set up to start the backup early in the morning and it works. I was investigating setting the "boot/reboot" option to backup system type directories that might change after an update or change in configuration that require a reboot. Thanks for the response. ~~R On

Re: [PLUG] Can someone enlighten me on H.265/HEVC

2023-02-27 Thread MC_Sequoia
"Is it possible to get Firefox to display HEVC videos? Everything I have read indicates the Mozilla developers have some religious war thing going on with MPEG-LA and refuse to put support into Firefox for it -" HEVC isn't supported in Firefox because it's no a license-free codec. Some

Re: [PLUG] Remote work on downed server ( Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown )

2023-02-27 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Mon, 27 Feb 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The Dell and HP systems require an extra license fee be paid to enable the remote tools and most of my customers are smaller. Their tendency is to try to press workstations into use as servers, it's a big stretch to get them to actually buy a real

Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
TLDR As I said, people leave bleeding... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeJXYhdfR6Q Ted -Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Ben Koenig Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:42 AM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a

Re: [PLUG] Remote work on downed server ( Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown )

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Raised flooring went out with IBM servers, lol. Far easier to run overhead cable management. I'm not a fan of pulling a raised floor to get at a cable and finding a dead rat down there. The Dell and HP systems require an extra license fee be paid to enable the remote tools and most of my

Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Ben Koenig
OMG everyone needs to get over it. Two wrongs don't make a right. This obligatory XKCD reference applies to both side of the isle... https://xkcd.com/169/ -Ben --- Original Message --- On Monday, February 27th, 2023 at 7:30 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > I agree this should have

Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I agree this should have been originally posted to plug-talk but it was not, which is why my response was to plug and why this response is also to plug. I am not going to accept a label of "covid denier" since I am not one, nor was I advising people to take no precautions. So I'm a "covid

Re: [PLUG] Question on Backintime backup program and "boot/reboot" option

2023-02-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023, Richard England wrote: But when I try to use the "At everu boot/reboot" options it seems to fail with a permission error. The profile works if I run it "manually" but fails on a reboot. ( I haven't tried it on a straight power-on boot.) Richard, I use dirvish, not

Re: [PLUG] Remote work on downed server ( Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown )

2023-02-27 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023, Robert Citek wrote: By "server", I am assuming that you mean some system on rails in a rack in a datacenter with raised flooring, hot/cold aisles, redundant power/networking, and physical security. In that environment, you usually can ( and want to ) be able to work on a

Re: [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Russell Senior
One other heads up: the Portland Building is a Government Building and they have been increasingly touchy about bringing "weapons" in. I am not sure what kind of screening there will be, but it might include innocuous seeming things like little pocket knives. To be safe, it's probably a good idea

Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

2023-02-27 Thread Russell Senior
One other heads up: the Portland Building is a Government Building and they have been increasingly touchy about bringing "weapons" in. I am not sure what kind of screening there will be, but it might include innocuous seeming things like little pocket knives. To be safe, it's probably a good idea