Re: [PLUG] Networking & HP-Printer Probs

2015-11-06 Thread Mike Connors
On 11/06/2015 04:56 PM, plug-requ...@lists.pdxlinux.org wrote: > on a switched network, this only works if the system whose arp table you're > examining has successfully communicated with the printer at some point. > > this method is often combined with an IP range port scan to try to populate >

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 134, Issue 12

2015-11-06 Thread Mike Connors
On 11/06/2015 04:56 PM, plug-requ...@lists.pdxlinux.org wrote: > on a switched network, this only works if the system whose arp table you're > examining has successfully communicated with the printer at some point. > > this method is often combined with an IP range port scan to try to populate >

Re: [PLUG] Networking & HP-Printer Probs

2015-11-06 Thread Mike Connors
As a network engineer, here's how I'd approach this problem. Maybe it's helpful to you. 1. Run the command "arp -a" from the pc. This will give me a list of mac addrs to ip addrs mappings for all the network interfaces that are on the subnet from which I'm running the command. e.g.

Re: [PLUG] Two easy questions...

2015-11-05 Thread Mike Connors
"I was hoping to extend my knowledge on Linux, Ubuntu, Open source, and wanted to find some books somewhere between "Linux for dummies" & Coding. I know about the BIOS,CMOS, CPU, etc. but I wanted deeper knowledge on Linux. Yes, I still read paper books;" One of the best Linux self-education

Re: [PLUG] Samsung S5 and Ubuntu 12.04,

2014-08-19 Thread MIke Connors
On 08/19/2014 08:04 AM, Chuck Hast wrote: Folks, When i plug the phone into the machine via USB, I can see the directory structure, but all of the directories are empty. I can see all kinds of google recommendations, some of which I have tried. At this time I get around it by starting a SSH

Re: [PLUG] Network puzzle

2014-07-31 Thread Mike Connors
For general knowledge purposes, 192.168.0.0 is the subnet address and 192.168.0.255 is the broadcast address for that subnet. The subnet address is used in routing tables and the broadcast address would be used by a computer configured for DHCP to send out a DHCP request to find a DHCP server.

[PLUG] Sony Vaio Wireless Issue: Update

2012-05-22 Thread Mike Connors
- The radio switch is in the 'on' position but the light remains dark. = This is typically a sign the wifi card driver isn't loaded for some reason. - Running 'rfkill list' shows that none of the three wireless lans (acer-wireless, sony-wifi, phy0) is hard blocked, but the

Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Wireless Issue: Update

2012-05-22 Thread Mike Connors
rfkill list is not the scanning command I was referring to. I forget what it was.. I discovered it while working on this issue on your laptop on sunday. you might be able to find it by opening a terminal and pressing ctrl+r, then something like scan or list. ctrl+r more times to go farther

[PLUG] Sony Vaio Wireless Issue

2012-05-22 Thread Mike Connors
the point of doing it other ways (ifconfig, iwlist) is to demonstrate that it's an issue specific to NM, not the driver or kernel or anything else. Based on the testing Rich and I did, I don't think the problem is specific to NM. With WICD, the wifi interface would come up and radio

[PLUG] PXE Distro Server availability?

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Connors
Is the net boot server only available during the PLUG Sunday Clinic? I have a Toshiba Netbook with a corrupted Debian install that I've been unable to recover and the bios on supports net boot and not usb. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org

Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Wireless Connectivity: One Step Closer

2012-04-19 Thread Mike Connors
Huh! I built and installed that on the Sony and that might be part of the problem, because I just checked on this workstation and it's already installed. I'll check to see if the new installation on the Sony borked an existing one. Stay tuned for the results ... We discussed ifplug /

Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Wireless Connectivity: One Step Closer

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Connors
I just downloaded the code for wicd-1.7.2.1 (the latest release) and grep'd for ntpd in the source .py files. Nothing found. But, in wnettools.py are classes for setting up the base, wired, and wireless interfaces. In the wired interface class are two procedures to see if there's an actual

Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Wireless Connectivity: One Step Closer

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Connors
Not sure I completely understand the context of your question, Russell, but ntpd explicitly drops eth0 from the routing table. The result is the same as root running 'ifconfig eth0 down'. No, it's not. NTPd is simply reporting to the log file that eth0 is no longer valid, and it's

Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Wireless Connectivity: One Step Closer

2012-04-17 Thread Mike Connors
While time is important, it's not so important as to stop a network connection. Having said that, what might prevent it from being called is lack of network. No reasong to use the Network Time Protocol without a net. Maybe I'm mis-interpreting your statement, but this explanation seems

Re: [PLUG] Controling Network Interfaces

2012-04-12 Thread Mike Connors
I could agree with this if the Sony's behavior was seen on the other 6 portables on which I've run linux and Slackware. This Sony Vaio is unique in the persistence with which it refuses to connect to wireless networks. :-) In the next couple of days, I'll de-activate wicd and install,

Re: [PLUG] Controling Network Interfaces

2012-04-11 Thread Mike Connors
That's not what I meant. I should have written have you deleted the static ip config stanza from /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf file and then tested net connectivity over wifi.? No. The eth0 interface needs to come down when wlan0 is up, even if eth0 is not running. eth0 is needed on

[PLUG] Controling Network Interfaces

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Connors
Still don't have the Sony Vaio working with wireless hot spots, but know why and would like your ideas on how to remedy the problem. When I invoke wicd on my Dell Latitude and it connects to the WAP eth0 is brought down ('ifconfig eth0 down' in Slackware) so the only network interface

Re: [PLUG] Controling Network Interfaces

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Connors
D) It's not connectivity to the WAP that's the problem, it's accessing the 'Net (directly or via a TC Web page first) that fails because the packets apparently insist on forcing themselves on the non-running eth0 and there's no cable to move them along. So they die. I use the phrase

Re: [PLUG] Understanding Networking Components [SOLVED]

2012-04-03 Thread Mike Connors
Running 'ifconfig -a' showed routes for both eth0 and wlan0, but only the latter was RUNNING. So, as root, I ran 'ifconfig eth0 down' to remove the routes and ... voila! That was the problem. Now, what I'd like from you networking gurus is a script I can put in rc.local to test if

Re: [PLUG] Understanding Networking Components [SOLVED]

2012-04-03 Thread Mike Connors
It shouldn't be in a running state unless there is physical connectivity and packets are flowing across the interface. The eth0 interface is not RUNNING, but the routes are there and so is the constipation. Actually you are wrong on this point. As you stated earlier today,

Re: [PLUG] Understanding Networking Components

2012-04-02 Thread Mike Connors
Please explain to me how the ethernet interface could interfere with the wireless interface. I must be missing something critical here because they're on different interfaces (eth0 and wlan0), and while both are UP, only one is RUNNING. Thanks, Rich There can be more than 1 default

Re: [PLUG] Understanding Networking Components

2012-04-02 Thread Mike Connors
But if the first ip packets from Rich's computer go out eth0, they will never make in to the WAP DHSP server and be redirected to the captive portal. It's possible, depending on how the captive portal works and how it's configured that a call to an internal DNS server doesn't need to

Re: [PLUG] Understanding Networking Components

2012-04-02 Thread Mike Connors
The location is probably immaterial; the coffee shop on the corner of 242nd and Stark is where I've been. My friend tries to connect at a coffee shop in downtown Gresham. I'll drive to Portland to meet anyone willing to devote the time to work this out ... and I'll buy the coffee (or

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 90, Issue 76

2012-03-31 Thread Mike Connors
At the PLUG clinic last week the Sony Vaio laptop on the wireless interface, wlan0, received an IP address, had the Free Geek server provide content in /etc/resolv.conf, but would not load the Free Geek web page to accept their terms and conditions and gain access to the 'Net. This

Re: [PLUG] Once again Linux has proven to me it is good for the career

2012-03-23 Thread Mike Connors
A flip of Kirk's recent rant. Although I have some CS studies and Linux/Unix admin work background, most of my formal training and career has been with Cisco Nortel Network Engineering. My first encounters with Unix was with the SUN network management boxes we used for managing the Nortel

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 90, Issue 47

2012-03-18 Thread Mike Connors
Tom Hello all, We have several installations of embedded wireless Tom routers (running slack on a 2.4 kernel) in which the gateway Tom router_1 uses a Verizon 3G USB modem (ppp0) as its connection to Tom the outside world, and one or more downstream router_2 have Tom 5.8Ghz wireless links to

Re: [PLUG] How to detect ppp address change remotely?

2012-03-18 Thread Mike Connors
Tom Hello all, We have several installations of embedded wireless Tom routers (running slack on a 2.4 kernel) in which the gateway Tom router_1 uses a Verizon 3G USB modem (ppp0) as its connection to Tom the outside world, and one or more downstream router_2 have Tom 5.8Ghz wireless

Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Will Not See eth0 (Rich Shepard)

2012-03-16 Thread Mike Connors
Mike, Try this reason on for size: the distribution was released in April 2011 with the 2.6.37.6 kernel, and the laptop was assembled and shipped November 2011. It is almost certain that the Atheros Comm. Ethernet chip is newer than the driver in the kernel. That's what someone discovered

Re: [PLUG] Once again Linux has proven to me it is only good for non-critical apps

2012-03-16 Thread Mike Connors
Kirk Goins wrote: Just before leaving for Seattle the other day my Ubunto desktop system said there were updates. So I told it to download and install and promptly forgot I had done so until I got home tonight. It was asking to reboot to finish the updates. Well it is dead now I have

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 90, Issue 36

2012-03-15 Thread Mike Connors
I suspect it's defective hardware since it won't connect wirelessly or via Ethernet. Must have a warranty period longer than a month or two. Based on all the weird, unresolved problems you've had I would also suspect this. Just about all the information you have put forth regarding this

[PLUG] Once again Linux has proven to me it is only good for non-critical apps

2012-03-15 Thread Mike Connors
Kirk Once again Linux has proven to me it is only good for non Kirk critical apps This is actually a crappy way to ask for help, just so you know. Since I know from long experience just how awesome Linux is for applications of every variety, I immediately discount your obvious ignorance

Re: [PLUG] Linux certifications

2012-03-06 Thread Mike Connors
I've been off in the Solaris world for the last few years but I'm interested in working with Linux again more. I was thinking about pursuing a certification and I wondered what recommendations people have about that. I passed the first LPI test years ago, I'm sure it's no longer valid. But

Re: [PLUG] telephony cable modems

2012-03-05 Thread Mike Connors
I have just started with Comcast. I am presently renting an Arris TM402P for $7/mo. I am looking to purchase my own modem. Comcast lists many compatible modems ( http://mydeviceinfo.comcast.net/mydev.php?tier=-1h=0d3=0s=vso=0e=0sc=536 ), but it is clear that not all the listed units

Re: [PLUG] Break in attempt?

2012-03-03 Thread Mike Connors
*cough cough* http://perimetergrid.com/wp/2008/05/17/ubuntudebian-crng-cracked-ssh-vulnerable/ Missed that one. Seems to be limited to Debian's RNG, and affects only the key generation process, not the protocol itself. quite correct. point being, even SSH keys aren't

Re: [PLUG] PSK error in wicd

2012-03-03 Thread Mike Connors
I hope someone here is fluent in wicd 'cause I can't figure out the solution to a problem. Context: new Sony Vaio laptop running Slackware-13.37/x86_64 with wicd-1.7.0. When invoked with 'wicd-client -n' from the command line, up pops the wicd network manager showing our local AP

[PLUG] : Re: Free distros!

2012-03-02 Thread Mike Connors
We have sufficient space in the PLUG cabinet to house a normal size desktop box, and we can always borrow a keyboard, mouse and monitor for those occasions when we need to use it. In other words, having a dedicated server could become a standard Clinic feature. I assume you want your Free

[PLUG] : Re: Free distros!

2012-03-01 Thread Mike Connors
It does sound like fun. I've often thought about combining a short educational session with each Clinic. This might be an opportunity to try out the idea. I think we have at least one router and one switch in the PLUG box at Free Geek. Plus we have cables in abundance and probably

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 89, Issue 49

2012-02-27 Thread Mike Connors
I have to take exception with previous statements about a lack of central package tracking in debian-based distros. This is completely false. The /var/lib/dpkg directory is used exactly for that purpose. This way all of the apt-based (which as previously pointed out is all dpkg-based anyway)

Re: [PLUG] Stupid apt-get problem

2012-02-25 Thread Mike Connors
Explain why I should not expect apt to know about all packages installed on the computer. You see, in my silly way I assumed that whenever a package was installed, regardless of what package manager installed it, it would then be listed in a central database file of installed apps. Thus, all

Re: [PLUG] Stupid apt-get problem

2012-02-24 Thread Mike Connors
I am trying to install the latest Opera web browser on my Lucid x86_64 desktop computer. Currently Opera 9.20 is installed, which I did a long time ago by downloading the .deb file and installing it with gDebi or dpkg. This evening I downloaded the latest .deb (11.61) and tried to install

Re: [PLUG] Stupid apt-get problem

2012-02-24 Thread Mike Connors
And for further fun- The static most likely means that the package is statically linked to the required libraries, instead of relying on the ones installed on the system (which would be dynamically linked), which could sometimes lead to version conflicts. Or not... There are two basic

Re: [PLUG] Break-in attempt

2012-02-20 Thread Mike Connors
I think the core of my question is what is the likely result of my saying YES to the login request? I appreciate the advice on keeping the machine secure and keeping the bad guys out, but right now my concern is that a bad guy has already gotten in. If not, then I can see about keeping

[PLUG] Partition table editing

2012-02-19 Thread Mike Connors
Do you have to delete all the partitions before re-creating the table? Or can you just change the offending one? Changing sdb7 alone, at both ends, would correct the overlap. Also, I note that in no case is there a gap of only one sector from one partition to the next. How large should it be,

Re: [PLUG] Xubuntu: Getting Wireless Networking Running Post-Installation [SEMI-FIXED]

2012-02-19 Thread Mike Connors
When I try to ping a host on the local network, or one outside, I see 'network is unreachable.' What do I do to fix this? I learned about Setup-Network Connections and entered the host IP address, netmask, and gateway IP address. Restarted the system. Still cannot ping anyone.

Re: [PLUG] (...) construct - Resolved

2012-02-17 Thread Mike Connors
I left a comment on the web page with the interview.? Both Ward and Markus (the interviewer) responded.? Ward stated: ? Michael -- I should have said ( ... ) as described in this post: http://crashingdaily.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/diff-two-stdout-streams/ Ha! Much as I had suspected

Re: [PLUG] Xubuntu: Getting Wireless Networking Running Post-Installation

2012-02-15 Thread Mike Connors
I'd appreciate guidance and directions to get this working this week; as a last resort, I'll bring it to Sunday's clinic for help from all the experts there. What radio does it have? lspci should say? Russell, Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000. Rich Rich - I found two articles

[PLUG] Voip provider

2012-02-13 Thread Mike Connors
Thanks Mike, If it is convenient, can you send a link to the forum? -- Pat Whoops! I thought I did... Here ya' go! http://forum.sipfoundry.org/index.php?t=msggoto=57766S=cec44bcd7243e86d5a17fa0e62b3fdcd ___ PLUG mailing list

[PLUG] Voip provider

2012-02-12 Thread Mike Connors
The asterisk log is full of: [2012-02-12 04:02:02] VERBOSE[32718] asterisk.c: -- Remote UNIX connection disconnected [2012-02-12 16:08:37] NOTICE[2866] chan_sip.c: -- Registration for ' ptimlick@64.2.142.15' timed out, trying again (Attempt #2) [2012-02-12 16:08:57] NOTICE[2866] chan_sip.c:

Re: [PLUG] Preparing for DSL DHCP IP Address

2012-02-05 Thread Mike Connors
Ah, you mean to ping the last known public ipaddr of the DSL modem. That wasn't clear. [ Internal host ] --- [ DSL ] [ ISP ] --- [ whatsmyip.org ] So, your suggestion is to have a script on the internal host that every hour or so queries whatsmyip.org and every much-more-frequently

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 89, Issue 5

2012-02-04 Thread Mike Connors
If you are running a DHCP client, then when your dynamic ipaddr changes your ping will continue to succeed and you won't be able to tell that anything has changed. The better answer is to take control of the software running on the gateway and just have a script *there* watch for a ipaddr

Re: [PLUG] Preparing for DSL DHCP IP Address

2012-02-03 Thread Mike Connors
Be sure to pay attention to WhatIsMyIP's usage policy (spelled out in the FAQ). In essence, try not to hit that link more than once every 5 minutes, less often if possible. Jim, Since the IP address _should_ be relatively stable, I doubt that I need to run the cron job more than

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 88, Issue 60

2012-01-31 Thread Mike Connors
Elizabeth Erickson wrote: please discontinue subscription to elizabeth.ericks...@pcc.edu. I'm no longer in computer studies. Thanks lizz Elizabeth Erickson I am sure anyone could point out the way to unsubscribe is through the group site, but I just wanted to suggest that unless

Re: [PLUG] Scanning pci bus

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Connors
Maybe I am asking the wrong question. Maybe this one will work for me: How do you turn on a pci card after boot. The module that services it is loaded, but the device is not visible. -- Ken Stephens, SV Aventura, Portland, OR Unless there's a physical switch on your EeePC to

[PLUG] Scanning pci bus

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Connors
Message: 3 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:09:47 -0800 From: Ken Stephens k...@cad2cam.com Subject: [PLUG] Scanning pci bus To: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;civil and on-topic plug@lists.pdxlinux.org Message-ID: 4f22f67b.7020...@cad2cam.com Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: [PLUG] WRT54G DHCP - always serve the same IP address to a particular device

2012-01-26 Thread Mike Connors
For now I'm trying the idea of assigning the most recently served IP address to the ReplayTV as its static IP address. My experience has shown that the WRT54G consistently assigns this address to that device. Regards, Dick Steffens This info might come in handy if you're going to do

Re: [PLUG] WRT54G DHCP - always serve the same IP address to a particular device?

2012-01-23 Thread Mike Connors
Alas, Wes is correct. I don't find DHCP Reservation in my WRT54G administration browser interface. I have never seen a router that does not allow you to assign a static IP addresses to a MAC address. Sometimes they hide it really well, but they all had that feature somewhere. What

[PLUG] WRT54G DHCP - always serve the same IP address to a particular device?

2012-01-23 Thread Mike Connors
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Mike Connors mconno...@gmail.com wrote: Alas, Wes is correct. I don't find DHCP Reservation in my WRT54G administration browser interface. I have never seen a router that does not allow you to assign a static IP addresses to a MAC address. Sometimes

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 88, Issue 38

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Connors
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Richard Owlett wrote: Can that analogy be properly extended to families {Ford vs GM} compares to {Debian vs Slackbuild vs Red Hat}[common repository structure] with each having competing lines {commercial vs passenger} might compare to {CLI vs GUI} and each having

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Mailing List Indexed in Google

2012-01-17 Thread Mike Connors
Daniel Hedlund wrote: The PLUG mailing list is no longer being archived by Google. It appears to have stopped collecting data since mid last year. This was brought to my attention by Michael Rasmussen who mentioned off-list that he used Google to search the PLUG archives for arch linux

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Mailing List Indexed in Google

2012-01-17 Thread Mike Connors
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:05:31AM -0800, Mike Connors wrote: Daniel Hedlund wrote: The PLUG mailing list is no longer being archived by Google. It appears to have stopped collecting data since mid last year. This was brought to my

Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...blacklists

2011-10-03 Thread Mike Connors
He also asks a --lot-- of questions of this board. I don't think he's ever offered technical help to anyone on this board. He takes, and does not give back. This is a historically proven and very fair statement of his behavior on this mailing list. Not to mention that when people do attempt

Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...blacklists

2011-10-03 Thread Mike Connors
Any question that more than one person has about a Linux related issue that is answered on this mailing list is valuable. Openly attacking me on list when I cannot respond on list without being accused of hostile behavior is extremely rude and unacceptable. Merely stating a historical

Re: [PLUG] List Guidelines

2011-10-03 Thread Mike Connors
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Jameson Williams jame...@jamesonwilliams.com wrote: What is preventing our list administrators from removing the offending party from the subscribers list, and adding a regex for the offending domain to the ban list? The years of repeated violation of publicly

Re: [PLUG] List Guidelines

2011-10-03 Thread Mike Connors
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Grow up. I haven't violated any list rules. Thank you for publicly inconveniencing everyone as well and completely ignoring what I have recently said about not posting hostile comments on list.

Re: [PLUG] List Guidelines

2011-10-03 Thread Mike Connors
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Fernando Freire freir...@up.edu wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Jameson Williams jame...@jamesonwilliams.com wrote: What is preventing our list administrators from removing the offending party from the subscribers list, and adding a regex for the

Re: [PLUG] Why some sites no PTR record???

2011-08-17 Thread Mike Connors
:~$ dig ebay.com mx ; DiG 9.7.2-P2 ebay.com mx ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16443 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ebay.com. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION:

Re: [PLUG] Why Laptop Cannot Find Wireless Networks

2011-08-05 Thread Mike Connors
my wireless network sniffer shows a strong signal (3-4 of 4 lights on) yet wicd-client cannot find a wireless network for connection That signal could be another wifi client on a computer and not an Access Point. It could be some other device in the same radio spectrum. If your wireless

Re: [PLUG] Spreadsheets (was Re: Why Laptop Cannot Find Wireless Networks)

2011-08-05 Thread Mike Connors
Files vs. lathes, BASIC (or Java) vs. C or C++, shovels vs. bulldozers -- whatever the problem, there's a quick easy way to do a small job that scales up really poorly, and an efficient way to do a huge job that scales down really poorly. Spreadsheet programs just exacerbate the problem in

Re: [PLUG] Chrome tied in a knot

2011-07-30 Thread Mike Connors
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Fred James fredj...@fredjame.cnc.netwrote: Denis Heidtmann wrote: I was browsing around (looking at some bike sites) when a window popped up: We have something for you Leave this page? cancel leave I closed the popup and tried to close

Re: [PLUG] Good PDF Editor

2011-05-26 Thread Mike Connors
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Tim Wescott t...@wescottdesign.com wrote: Subject says most of it: I'm looking for a good PDF editor. Adobe appears to have introduced yet another improvement, which means that the one I use now can read the files, but can't extract pages. pdftk(free) or

Re: [PLUG] Good PDF Editor

2011-05-26 Thread Mike Connors
@Mark - Ah, thanks for the info. @John - Yes, xournal works quickly and easily! It's so great not to have to go frantically searching for a way to enter simple text into a pdf now. :-) On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: Mike, Scribus does not

Re: [PLUG] grub issue

2011-05-26 Thread Mike Connors
Can someone point me to something that will help me sort this out. I told Debian to install Grub to the MBR (I am fairly certain, anyway), and I would have thought this would override/overwrite the Fedora Grub. This guy's grub setup walk through might be helpful as one Linux install has

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here; Update

2011-05-05 Thread Mike Connors
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Word Wizard word.wiz...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not a big fan of the new landscape monitors. I use an older 4:3 20 inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing work. I dread the day it gives out because only the band-aid form-factor

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-03 Thread Mike Connors
CentOS, on the other hand, is RHEL, without any of the RedHat proprietary stuff. It should be, and in my experience is, very stable. I've installed it on various hardware without issue. The CentOS team takes the RHEL open source tree, and reconstitutes it. Yes, I've run CentOS on work

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
. An in-depth study of the reactions and problems of new desktop users, comparing Unity, Gnome, KDE, and a few others, would be very revealing. I won't speculate as to the outcome. I only wish to point out that without some scientific evidence, everything that people say pro and con Unity is

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
I just got back from Linuxfest NorthWest and I spoke with quite a few people about this. Almost all of them dislike Unity.  It is about the same as when KDE went from 3 to 4... everyone hated it, but now that it has matured a bit, it is an excellent desktop.  The little bit of playing I did

Re: [PLUG] Natty issues

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
I run Maverick (Ubuntu 10.10) w/Gnome and the Avant panel. It is absolutely perfect in every aspect, so far superior to Windows I would not run W7 even if it were free.  I use some KDE apps like the K3B burner and I even ran the pre-release Gnome3/Gnome shell with not one problem. Fast,

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
Give half of them Natty and half of them Maverick. Make each user work alone at home so none sees what any of the others are doing. Give them specific user type tasks, such as write a letter to a potential employer, write a term paper for school, find the meanings of terms on wikipedia, and

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
If there's any truth to what's in this article than Unity and Linux consumer-oriented desktop is the direction Shuttleworth plans to take Ubuntu. = Shuttleworth opened by saying that the main point of Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity was “to bring the joys and freedoms and innovation and performance and

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
Oh, it might help if I provided the link to the article... http://m.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/shuttleworth-on-ubuntu-1104-linux-unity/8780 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Mike Connors mconno...@gmail.com wrote: If there's any truth to what's in this article than Unity and Linux consumer

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
Fedora (the most-used *ix at my workplace) user experience seems to have improved a great deal since i last tried using it almost five years ago, and would probably be my next choice. I've wanted to like and use Fedora many times. But I'm I have an unfavorable opinion of RPM based distros. I

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-04-30 Thread Mike Connors
I wonder how much different the reactions would be if you took a similar group and gave them a Gnome desktop, or KDE, or whatever. I suspect the results would be about the same, but it would be interesting to see an experiment. Probably. We all work differently in a UI that gives us that

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-04-29 Thread Mike Connors
Yeah, I finally buckled as more and more devices started showing up (family laptops, family desktops) that I didn't want to have to pay so much attention to.  Ubuntu has historically given a pleasant out-of-the-box experience for non-nerds.  Maybe Unity would be fine for a non-nerd, but ...

Re: [PLUG] Favorite Linux Netbook specific distro?

2011-04-28 Thread Mike Connors
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Jeffery Alan Mathis II jamathi...@gmail.com wrote: I no longer have a netbook, but when I did I tried several distros on it (Asus eeePC 701).  The ones that ran best were Cruncheee, Puppeee, Salix, Peppermint, and Linux Mint XFCE edition. I've been mulling the

[PLUG] Favorite Linux Netbook specific distro?

2011-04-27 Thread Mike Connors
I'm going to purchase my first Netbook this week. What's your fav Linux Netbook specific OS and why? I plan to check out Jolicloud, gOS, OpenGeeeU, CrunchEee, and maybe Meego. I currently rung Debian Squeeze (KDE4) on my Lenovo T60 so I'm kind of keen on the full-fledge desktop experience even

Re: [PLUG] Favorite Linux Netbook specific distro?

2011-04-27 Thread Mike Connors
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jason Barnett jason.barnet...@gmail.com wrote: I use the 64bit version of Kubuntu on my netbook.  It has the option of the Netbook or Desktop interface and you can change back and forth as you please.  I usually stick with the standard desktop and have no

Re: [PLUG] Favorite Linux Netbook specific distro?

2011-04-27 Thread Mike Connors
I've been switching back and forth between Ubuntu 10.04 and Archlinux on a Dell Mini for the past year, with one of the early Atoms and 1GB of RAM.  This thing has soldiered on like a champ, and really haven't noticed any slowdown running the full GNOME environment.  In fact, I briefly played

Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: PLUG Advanced Topics IPv6 Networking Part 1

2011-04-19 Thread Mike Connors
I came across a couple of this video recording of a Google IPv6 conference (2008) http://www.ipv6vsipv4.com/experts.html. It might serve as a good primer for tonight's talk. Also, World IPv6 Day is June 8th, 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_IPv6_Day. Get involved with testing it!

Re: [PLUG] Algorithm's (sic) and Compilers PSU...

2011-03-31 Thread Mike Connors
However, I think he needs to get a grip and realize that he is solely responsible for what he learns, how quickly he learns it, and how far he can go with it. I don't think I'm far wrong to surmise that almost everyone on this mailing list is self-taught in part if not all parts of computer

[PLUG] Skype hijacks Linux Audio

2011-03-17 Thread Mike Connors
Has anyone else encountered this? I've read a few forums about how the Skype alsa-oss implementation is horrible. Combine that with the myriad of Linux audio sub-systems. What's odd is that even when I'm not running Skype I can't get any other source of audio to play. I don't really care to dig

[PLUG] Linux web cams?

2011-03-10 Thread Mike Connors
Is anyone running a fairly current Linux kernel (2.6.26 or close) and using a Logitech or Creative web cam? I'm ooking to buy a web cam today locally and hook it up to my Debian Sid install. I found a how-to that says all I need to do is install gspca-source and camorama which seems straight

Re: [PLUG] Linux web cams?

2011-03-10 Thread Mike Connors
I use a Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX with Unbuntu 10.04, 2.6.32. It uses V4L1 and reports as a UVC camera on /dev/video0. I use it with Skype, WebCamStudio and Kopete, no special requirements or settings. Cheese doesn't record video well at all, but then it doesn't with my netbook's

[PLUG] Linux Based 'Freedom Box'

2011-02-24 Thread Mike Connors
Interesting concept. Curious to see where it goes. “A small device the size of a cellphone charger, running on a low-power chip. You plug it into the wall and forget about it. Put free software into the little plug server in the wall, and you would have a Freedom Box that would decentralize

Re: [PLUG] Fedora 14 vs. 2005 laptop

2011-02-24 Thread Mike Connors
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com wrote: So I could not get the fellow to the look, this doesn't work, you need more RAM or a leaner distro realization. If someone comes to the clinic with their heart/mind set on running the latest greatest distro this will

Re: [PLUG] Fedora 14 vs. 2005 laptop

2011-02-24 Thread Mike Connors
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:43 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:26:54 -0800 Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com dijo: It would also be good to have a few RAM chips that we could sell to people like the gentleman with the R4000. In practically every case where

Re: [PLUG] IBM T60

2011-02-17 Thread Mike Connors
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote: I can get this for $350.. Is that a good price and will Linux fit well?? IBM ThinkPad T60 14 Laptop w/ Intel Core Duo T2400 1.83 GHz (Centrino Duo), 2GB DDR, 60GB, DVD / CDRW Combo, 802.11g, Windows XP Professional.

Re: [PLUG] Internet addictions and technology

2011-02-17 Thread Mike Connors
Is it possible to create a filter on the plug mailing list to filter out those people who seem to be addicted to consistently expressing their personal views, morals, and ethics on a Linux mailing list? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org

Re: [PLUG] combined BSD and Linux security monitor

2011-02-16 Thread Mike Connors
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Michael Dexter dex...@ambidexter.comwrote: On 2/16/11 8:12 AM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: I was thinking about Michael Dexter's BSD presentation last night. One of my concerns about software is the insertion of logic bombs. I'm not a Linux kernel dev nor even a

Re: [PLUG] Shopping for Netbook to run Linux. What's your fav Netbook for Linux and why?

2011-02-05 Thread Mike Connors
If I was in the market for a netbook I'd look at the Motorola Atrix 4G. You can get a laptop dock for it that basically turns it into a netbook. When it's not a netbook its an Android 2.2 phone. Of course, if you don't need a phone, then it becomes too expensive for a netbook. At $500 for

Re: [PLUG] Shopping for Netbook to run Linux. What's your fav Netbook for Linux and why?

2011-02-05 Thread Mike Connors
Not knowing what Sidux is I went a-googling. Important News: sidux is dead, long live aptosid http://sidux.com/index.php?module=Newsfunc=displaysid=616 Yes, Aptosid. Boy that just rolls off the tongue and makes you want to tell all your geek buds about the cool distro you run, eh. I've been

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