I'm not a big fan of the new landscape monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
work. I dread the day it gives out because only the band-aid form-factor
monitors seem to be available now. They don't deliver the vertical size
I like
On 5/5/2011 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the new landscape monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
work. I dread the day it gives out because only the band-aid form-factor
monitors seem to be available now. They
I'm pretty sure HP still makes those. I don't know if there are Linux
drivers for their monitors (the rotation part, that is.)
On May 5, 2011 8:11 AM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote:
On 5/5/2011 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the new landscape monitors. I use
On May 5, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the new landscape monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
work
What's really cool about the widescreen monitors is that you can have two
pages, side by side on
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Word Wizard word.wiz...@comcast.net wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the new landscape monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
work. I dread the day it gives out because only the band-aid form-factor
On Thu, 5 May 2011, Mike Connors wrote:
Besides who uses a computer for anything other than watching videos... :-(
I thought that was why folks bought iPhones and their off-shoots.
Rich
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On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Alexander Case alexander.c...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pretty sure HP still makes those. I don't know if there are Linux
drivers for their monitors (the rotation part, that is.)
xrandr handles rotations just fine (as does at least one of the gnome
xrandr font-ends).
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote:
On 5/5/2011 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the new landscape monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
work. I dread the day it gives out
Update on Ubuntu 11.4 install
Regarding my previous fine whines about the bugs in the latest Ubuntu
release, Natty 11.4, out of fairness I felt I should present my
subsequent experiences with the Unity desktop version.
The display bugs and performance disappointments I encountered upon
first
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Word Wizard word.wiz...@comcast.net wrote:
Now that Natty seems to have settled down, apparently it does deliver
performance superior to its predecessors. Whether due to the new
compiz-based graphics instead of mutter or some other change I can't say
but
/The best thing about Linux. If you don't like one flavor, there are 50
others. Whereas with Windows, the user is stuck with whatever Steven
Ballmer deems they should have. Linux has about a dozen desktops, Unity,
Gnome Shell, KDE, lxde, xfce and more, two package management systems,
several
CentOS, on the other hand, is RHEL, without any of the RedHat proprietary
stuff. It should be, and in my experience is, very stable. I've installed it
on various hardware without issue. The CentOS team takes the RHEL open source
tree, and reconstitutes it.
Yes, I've run CentOS on work
I just got back from Linuxfest NorthWest and I spoke with quite a few people
about this. Almost all of them dislike Unity. It is about the same as when
KDE went from 3 to 4... everyone hated it, but now that it has matured a
bit, it is an excellent desktop. The little bit of playing I did with
. An in-depth study of the reactions and problems
of new desktop users, comparing Unity, Gnome, KDE, and a few others,
would be very revealing.
I won't speculate as to the outcome. I only wish to point out that
without some scientific evidence, everything that people say pro and
con Unity is
I just got back from Linuxfest NorthWest and I spoke with quite a few people
about this. Almost all of them dislike Unity. It is about the same as when
KDE went from 3 to 4... everyone hated it, but now that it has matured a
bit, it is an excellent desktop. The little bit of playing I did
Therein lies the rub.
Either the OS is designed for newcomers or Linux or veteran users.
Right now Natty seems totally hostile to the former while a pain in the
backside from at least some veteran users. I'm no MS/CS sys-admin but
I'm not a Linux or Ubuntu newbie either. I love the ease of
On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:36:53 -0700
Word Wizard word.wiz...@comcast.net dijo:
Either the OS is designed for newcomers or Linux or veteran users.
So you conclude that a distro can't meet the needs of more than one of
these groups?
Right now Natty seems totally hostile to the former while a pain
Give half of them Natty and half of them Maverick. Make each user work
alone at home so none sees what any of the others are doing. Give them
specific user type tasks, such as write a letter to a potential
employer, write a term paper for school, find the meanings of terms
on wikipedia, and
On 05/02/2011 07:28 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Quantify and compare the results. Send a copy to Shuttleworth.
thanks, John and Mike, for keeping a positive tone.
i usually wait at least a month before installing the latest Ubuntu
release, but this time around i'm sticking with 10.10 because
If there's any truth to what's in this article than Unity and Linux
consumer-oriented desktop is the direction Shuttleworth plans to take
Ubuntu.
= Shuttleworth opened by saying that the main point of Ubuntu 11.04
with Unity was “to bring the joys and freedoms and innovation and
performance and
Oh, it might help if I provided the link to the article...
http://m.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/shuttleworth-on-ubuntu-1104-linux-unity/8780
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Mike Connors mconno...@gmail.com wrote:
If there's any truth to what's in this article than Unity and Linux
Fedora (the most-used *ix at my workplace) user experience seems to have
improved a great deal since i last tried using it almost five years ago,
and would probably be my next choice.
I've wanted to like and use Fedora many times. But I'm I have an
unfavorable opinion of
RPM based distros. I
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:10:28 -0700
Mike Connors mconno...@gmail.com dijo:
I wonder how much different the reactions would be if you took a
similar group and gave them a Gnome desktop, or KDE, or whatever.
I suspect the results would be about the same, but it would be
interesting to see an
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:54:43 -0700
Mike Connors mconno...@gmail.com dijo:
From the data provided, it doesn't seem to be a very intuitive / user
friendly interface...
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-April/032988.html
I wonder how much different the reactions would be if you
I wonder how much different the reactions would be if you took a
similar group and gave them a Gnome desktop, or KDE, or whatever.
I suspect the results would be about the same, but it would be
interesting to see an experiment.
Probably. We all work differently in a UI that gives us that
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, John Jason Jordan wrote:
As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04.
For the record, yesterday was the official release date for
Slackware-13.37.
So there. :-)
Rich
Paul == Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com writes:
Paul The default destop feels like the old netbook-spin desktop. It's
Paul not really my favorite, but it's pretty attractive and its
Paul operation is easy enough to grok.
Making it hard to find and re-enable the old style desktop, so that
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Russell Senior wrote:
I really don't like the computer-as-uncomfortably-large-smartphone idea.
And it probably is tiring on the arm holding it against your ear.
Rich
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Russell Senior wrote:
Paul == Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com writes:
Paul The default destop feels like the old netbook-spin desktop.
Paul It's not really my favorite, but it's pretty attractive and
Paul its operation is easy enough to grok.
Making it hard to find
Paul == Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com writes:
Paul On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Russell Senior wrote:
Paul == Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com writes:
Paul The default destop feels like the old netbook-spin desktop.
Paul It's not really my favorite, but it's pretty attractive and its
Paul
On 04/28/2011 07:20 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04. I have downloaded the Alternate,
Desktop and Server of the Ubuntu live CDs, 32- and 64-bit. I have also
downloaded Kubuntu Alternate and
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com dijo:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, John Jason Jordan wrote:
As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04.
For the record, yesterday was the official release
Yeah, I finally buckled as more and more devices started showing up
(family laptops, family desktops) that I didn't want to have to pay so
much attention to. Ubuntu has historically given a pleasant
out-of-the-box experience for non-nerds. Maybe Unity would be fine
for a non-nerd, but ...
As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04. I have downloaded the Alternate,
Desktop and Server of the Ubuntu live CDs, 32- and 64-bit. I have also
downloaded Kubuntu Alternate and Desktop (there is no server version) in
32- and 64-bit
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, John Jason Jordan wrote:
As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04. I have downloaded the
Alternate, Desktop and Server of the Ubuntu live CDs, 32- and
64-bit. I have also downloaded Kubuntu Alternate and
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