I enjoy the deitel series
http://www.deitel.com/articles/cplusplus_tutorials/20051209/index.html
Its a big book, but has nice examples ;o)
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Jerry Davis jdaw...@cox.net wrote:
After about 20 years, I am now doing C++ programming. Never mind the
reason.
On
My favorite 2 C++ books are as follows:
Learning to Program in C++ by Steve Heller published by Prentice Hall
The C++ Standard Library by Nicolai M Josuttis published by Addison Wesley
I'm not a professional programmer, and C++ isn't my favorite language, so
these are more reference and odd bits
Hey Pluggers. I've been on this mailing list awhile and asked in chat if
anyone had a spot for me to use a free shell. The only things I need are
weechat, screen, scp, and ssh.
Currently as I move from spot to spot during the day this is the ONLY
way I can contact a couple of people that I know.
Eric Shubert wrote:
Has anyone here implemented any clusters?
Is any particular distro better or worse at clustering?
Any pointers regarding clustering you'd like to share?
Thanks for everyone's input.
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Another alternative is vmware.
Vmware player: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
Pick a linux appliance: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/
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j...@twingeckos.com
480.288.8195x201
http://www.twingeckos.com
Marie von
First let me apologize for ending this to both the main discussion list and
to the application discussion list. It is probably best for the application
list but it gets so little traffic I don't know if it is monitored much.
The issue is that I tried to burn a slackware .iso to a dvd in a usual
From: Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com
The issue
Why do people call problems issues? I've never seen a coherent
explanation for that.
I tried to burn a slackware .iso to a dvd in a usual manner and
after a short time, the Fujifilm DVD+R was ejected wih an error.
Using a frontend to growisofs,
http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml
Huge ton of free shells!
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:44 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote:
Another alternative is vmware.
Vmware player: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
Pick a linux appliance: http://www.vmware.com/appliances/
--
JD Austin
the top one is pretty nice.. account creation is a bit odd, but
otherwise quite handy.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Lisa Kacholdlisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:
http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml
Huge ton of free shells!
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:44 AM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com
I LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/linux-communism.jpg
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:39 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/comics/bloomcounty;_ylt=AsjVz5mojLP5WJdNkrUYRXgDwLAF
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Lisa Kachold wrote:
I LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/linux-communism.jpg
Well, I guess I'm red today!
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Lisa... I was on the page the last 2 days.. See my original post NO one
has accts, or they have inane requirements, or they don't exist, or they
charge.
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On Jul 2, 2009 10:40 AM, Ryan Rix phrkonale...@gmail.com wrote:
Lisa Kachold wrote: I LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/linux-communi...
Well, I guess I'm red today!
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM, GK gm5...@gmail.com wrote:
Lisa... I was on the page the last 2 days.. See my original post NO one
has accts, or they have inane requirements, or they don't exist, or they
charge.
Vi^3PP
Obviously you have internet access.. build your own shell :)
Why do people call problems issues? I've never seen a coherent
Because it is politically correct
Feel to explain that one...:)
ET
Matt Graham writes:
From: Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com
The issue
Why do people call problems issues? I've never seen a coherent
explanation for
they are called issues because calling them subscriptions would be
even more confuseing
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Matt Grahamdanceswithcr...@usa.net wrote:
From: Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com
The issue
Why do people call problems issues? I've never seen a coherent
explanation for
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM, GK gm5...@gmail.com wrote:
Lisa... I was on the page the last 2 days.. See my original post NO one
has accts, or they have inane requirements, or they don't exist, or they
charge.
Vi^3PP
In troubleshooting (and decision making in general) we often find that
I don't get it.
Linux = Freedom != Communism
Lisa Kachold wrote:
I LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/linux-communism.jpg
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:39 PM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com
mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure i do either...
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Eric Shuberte...@shubes.net wrote:
I don't get it.
Linux = Freedom != Communism
Lisa Kachold wrote:
I LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/linux-communism.jpg
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:39 PM, mike havens
Eric Shubert wrote:
I don't get it.
Linux = Freedom != Communism
We should share everything equally?
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I don't get it.
Linux = Freedom != Communism
Or more correctly: It doesn't fit the capitalistic paradigm that most
people associate with capitalism, thus MUST be communism
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That is what they were trying to say durring the SCO thing I think
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ryan Rix phrkonale...@gmail.com wrote:
Eric Shubert wrote:
I don't get it.
Linux = Freedom != Communism
Or more correctly: It doesn't fit the capitalistic paradigm that most
people
Just when I thought SCO was dead I went to their website.. nope :(
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
That is what they were trying to say durring the SCO thing I think
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ryan Rix phrkonale...@gmail.com wrote:
Eric Shubert
See post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853149
This post (and others like it) suggest this is a problem with cheap DVD
hardware and media; it's known on memorex and sony media.
This post for Fedora is bit more involved, with some small suggestions to
rule out hardware driver
What does this have to do with the cartoon? Even with the explanations, I
am lost Maybe it is the lack of sleep this week or the thickness of my
skull.
Gilbert
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From: Lisa Kachold
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject:
Go to the downtown Library by McDowell and Central - 5th floor. Read them
all!
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:18 AM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:
My favorite 2 C++ books are as follows:
Learning to Program in C++ by Steve Heller published by Prentice Hall
The C++ Standard Library by
Lisa,
Most of those accounts were on the first URL that was viewed in the past
couple of days. I'm not going to say it again about the status I have
found because it has not changed.
n troubleshooting (and decision making in general) we often find that our
basic premise is flawed. Excuse me.
I just tried the first one, clicked on create free shell account click here
answered a few silly questions.
And was logged into a free account
It was very simple.
Were the questions to hard for you :-) lol
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Bob gotta read the fine print:
- IRC access to free users on Saturdays and Sundays
I need 24/7.
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Try using a rewriteable, so you don't make a bunch of coasters, then when
you get it working you can burn it to the DVD-R
You do have a DVD-RW don't you.
_
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[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Lisa
http://www.sagernotebook.com/product_customed.php?pid=188463
i wonder how Linux friendly the hardware is...
so far on specs the video and wireless should work... not sure about
the tv add ins or nic/chipset
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM, GK gm5...@gmail.com wrote:
Bob gotta read the fine print:
- IRC access to free users on Saturdays and Sundays
I need 24/7.
http://www.nyx.net/about.html
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Eric,
It IS a coaster although when I insert the disc in this or another machine
the pop-up says I have inserted a Blank DVD, properties on it show it to
have no content and no free space. Obviously some initialization was
accomplished before the error.
BTW, googling WRITE @ LBA=0h failed with
Well I guess I'm missing something, what you are trying to do, can be done
on your machine be it windows or linux.
Unless your trying to set up an IRC bot, for some other purpose.
Something sounds fishy ?
If you want to stay in contact with family and friends, there are lots of
easier ways.
To me asking for a shell is almost like asking to borrow my gun.
Call me paranoid but such requests make me suspicious.
I don't even give my own clients that I've met in person and trust a shell
account.
So what's keeping you from having your own linux box (even virtualized)?
JD
On Thu, Jul 2,
Well he sent it yesterday, so It couldn't be about todays comic. And
yesterdays doesn't make sense either.
The only thing I can think, is he is pointing out that they are reissuing
bloom county comics.
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote:
To me asking for a shell is almost like asking to borrow my gun.
Call me paranoid but such requests make me suspicious.
I don't even give my own clients that I've met in person and trust a shell
account.
So what's keeping
Check out http://silenceisdefeat.com. There was another site I signed up
for but I can't seem to find my login information (or even the name of
the site). Sucks cause I paid to be a premium member, which also gave my
a mysql database oh well, it was only a couple of bucks. Anyway,
most of the
Gotta love when people are too dumb to change their handle :)
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote:
To me asking for a shell is almost like asking to borrow my gun.
Call me paranoid
I love it when I'm right. Do you think we'll hear from him again ?
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Kachold
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re:
Though that was #debian.. not a lot of hacking/cracking talk going on there.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I love it when I'm right. Do you think we'll hear from him again ?
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Ya know I've posted my needs! People are not reading what I am saying. I
DON'T want or can I even use alternatives. If you don't have a shell
account that we can talk off list about. Please you're wasting my time.
I don't need insults, platitudes or any other whatever you think is
necessary. So
Isn't the conversation there talking about generating and enforcing
strong passwords?
-Joe
Bob Elzer wrote:
I love it when I'm right. Do you think we'll hear from him again ?
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Well cracklib can also be used to find weak ones too.
It's still funny, how three of us, got suspicious enough to point it out at
the same time.
I would like to know how lisa found that page, google won't let me search on
the ^ character.
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From:
I realize you said free but I assumed you could at least come up $1
(technically $1.34 to cover the paypal fees). Plus, that would meet your
needs permanently. However, silenceisdefeat.com doesn't have weechat
installed. They do offer irssi though, no idea if that would meet your
needs.
If you
But if you use any type of service to pay for it, you are not anonymous
anymore.
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Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:51 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion
You're talking about the price Right :-)
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Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:06 PM
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Subject: Holy poop its huge
I call BS!
You have a computer, access to the internet, and are obviously technically
adept enough to talk about cracklib so what exactly is keeping you from
running a shell from your own machine; that I'm sure we can help you with.
JD
Marie von
On Thu 2 July 2009 12:17:00 pm JD Austin wrote:
Gotta love when people are too dumb to change their handle :)
Lisa, Bob, JD:
Please pull those sticks out of your asses. Thanks. Calling someone dumb on a
public mailing list is simply unacceptable.
Now, Vamp's been on the #plugaz IRC channel
On Thu 2 July 2009 11:22:19 am JD Austin wrote:
Just when I thought SCO was dead I went to their website.. nope :(
Yeah, they got bought out by some patent troll who was stupid enough to
believe they could make some money off of saving SCO from bankruptcy. lol.
Ryan
the price and the size itself.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Bob Elzerbob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
You're talking about the price Right :-)
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[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
Any machine can be compromised from the inside with enough time.
I grew up with hackers for friends so I understand how they operate.
He may be a great guy without any ill intentions...
go ahead and give him a shell account on your box :)
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Ryan Rix
On Thu 2 July 2009 1:19:35 pm JD Austin wrote:
Any machine can be compromised from the inside with enough time.
I grew up with hackers for friends so I understand how they operate.
He may be a great guy without any ill intentions...
go ahead and give him a shell account on your box :)
I would
I assume his plan is to keep the screen session up on a remote machine
and bounce around to different machines, continuing to log in to the one
remote machine and restore the screen session. I think we've probably
all done that, but perhaps we've all been fortunate enough to HAVE the
remote
+Vi +3PP = top hit
My Google fu is strong...
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Bob Elzerbob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Well cracklib can also be used to find weak ones too.
It's still funny, how three of us, got suspicious enough to point it out at
the same time.
I would like to know how lisa
I didn't call anybody dumb.
Let's look at the facts. He wants a free (anonymous) shell to run ssh, scp,
and IRC
To keep in contact with family and friends. He is not willing to look at
alternatives, even if they are free and would do the same, but from his
machine.
He jumps down peoples
And yes I do see the black helicopters overhead, but it's ok, I've got
my tin foil hat on.
Still have the black helicopters as your desktop background? ;)
22:03 ( PhrkOnLsh) VampirePenguin: for my benefits, why aren't you
putting a shell on that arch mirror?
22:04 ( PhrkOnLsh) i asked you
Joe wrote:
I assume his plan is to keep the screen session up on a remote machine
and bounce around to different machines, continuing to log in to the one
remote machine and restore the screen session. I think we've probably
all done that, but perhaps we've all been fortunate enough to HAVE
What spawned the SCO comment is that everyone was commenting on Lisa's
signature (http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/linux-communism.jpg) in
her comment to me. Those aare my thoughts on the matter!
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net
LOL yes.
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Subject: Re: Shell Account
And yes I do see the black
Am 02. Jul, 2009 schwätzte Joe so:
moin moin Joe,
Thanks for a calm and helpful response to the thread!
I assume his plan is to keep the screen session up on a remote machine
and bounce around to different machines, continuing to log in to the one
remote machine and restore the screen
still not sure how they link, but i laughed at the comic...
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM, mike havensbmi...@gmail.com wrote:
What spawned the SCO comment is that everyone was commenting on Lisa's
signature (http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/linux-communism.jpg) in
her comment to me.
I do have a question, the http://silenceisdefeat.com/ was listed and
the only cost is a postage stamp to verify your address that wasn't
quite listed as one of your make/break criteria exactly (I'm having
trouble remembering them exactly)
on a side not i hope you can trust and verify yourself
that place has to be the coolest building in town (both figuratively
and literally).
re: C++ : http://www.research.att.com/~bs/
-jmz
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Lisa Kacholdlisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:
Go to the downtown Library by McDowell and Central - 5th floor. Read them
ASU's 3rd floor of the Noble Science Library also has a pile of C++
books including several on STL
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Joshua Zeidnerjjzeid...@gmail.com wrote:
that place has to be the coolest building in town (both figuratively
and literally).
re: C++ :
Hey, I never descended to either name calling or black and white thinking; I
just questioned his basic premises.
You need to read his full thread; the conversation switched over from the
day before:
http://67.18.92.220/irc/debian/2008/06/30
He is evidently working with long term security
Scott White, penetration Tester from Secure State, will give a tutorial on
Advanced SQL Injection techniques. Expect to learn how hackers
systematically attack databases and underlying operating systems using
nothing but a web browser as their attack tool.
http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Phoenix
And you can access IRC from here:
http://67.18.92.220/
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:
Hey, I never descended to either name calling or black and white thinking;
I just questioned his basic premises.
You need to read his full thread; the
Well I have to direct this to someone (Lisa) because whatever sassafras
tea that you're drinking is obviously laced.
For whatever reason you brought in a Debian log is beyond me too. But if
you must needs have your senses titilated the OP in question was asking
how he could generate a list of
Trent Shipley wrote:
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I have a friend, a belly dancer, who has an opt-in ham list with roughly
1000 addresses. (Of course, with 1000 subscribers a lot of people will
consider the mailing spam, but won't ask to be removed from the
list)
1000 people is a large email list. Most ISP's will not let you send that
quantity within a short time.
You will require a an auto responder. iContact is a good choice as is
http://www.aweber.com/pricing.htm. Both have about the same rates. With these
two you are looking at about $30/mo
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I have a friend, a belly dancer, who has an opt-in ham list with roughly
1000 addresses. (Of course, with 1000 subscribers a lot of people will
consider the mailing spam, but won't ask to
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