PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Alan Dayley
Another thread about the sonoran penguin and making a theme for the website surfaced some discussion about the governance of PLUG. I'd like to enlighten that a little bit. The Steering Committee --- PLUG has a Steering Committee, members in no particular order: - Hans,

Re: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Alex Dean
On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Alan Dayley wrote: Another thread about the sonoran penguin and making a theme for the website surfaced some discussion about the governance of PLUG. I'd like to enlighten that a little bit. Personally, I'm on this list to ask and answer questions related to

Re: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:52 -0500, Alex Dean wrote: This isn't because I don't care about politics, culture, law, and other issues which come up. (I've responded to a few of those kinds of threads, but more often I end up deleting a half-written response which doesn't say what I want it

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
i know all nvidia cards have a turbo Cache option to swipe some system memory for graphics rendering it may be that the driver is grabbing this and not releaseing it back.. this may be the killer. how to resolve. i am not sure. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Michael Butashmich...@butash.net

Re: Sonoran Penguin

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
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Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-06 Thread nadimhoque
When you say nvidia proprietary drivers do you mean the one ubuntu gives or the one on the website. If you used the ubuntu given one uninstall that and install the one straight from the website. If you don't mind me asking what video cards do you have? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Problem with Internet speed in laptop in Linux Mint

2009-08-06 Thread Renaton Patron
Hi all, I just convinced my wife to switch to Linux/GNU from Vista after her laptop was extremely slow and infected with spyware. I use Ubuntu 9.04 in my desktop, but I tried Linux Mint sometime ago, and I thought it can be used as an easy transition from windows, also since it is based in Ubuntu

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Butash
No, I mean the Nvidia proprietary drivers from their site, currently 185.18.14, 64-bit. The card is a 7950GTX, 512mb I think. I haven't used the default NV drivers in ages, as I tend to rely on the acceleration too much. I haven't tried Nouveau, though from what I read it's something of a

Re: Problem with Internet speed in laptop in Linux Mint

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
i have found that in hybrid networks (ipv4 and ipv6) without any routing or configuration things get weird. so unless i plan on adopting ipv6 i usually just disable it. also i would try a direct cable connection to the router and see if there is a speed change. this will let you know if you need

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
Nvidia liked it so much they started just making it a default technology. in the 7xxx series (they had specific turbocache cards in the 6xxx if anyone wants to see on i can bring it to a meeting or take pictures so you may all view the freakshow) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Michael

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-06 Thread tshipley
Buy a non-nVidia video card? Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:51:32 To: mich...@butash.net; Main PLUG discussion listplug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: Memory leaks in

Re: Problem with Internet speed in laptop in Linux Mint

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Butash
Agreed, bypass the wireless. The 2.4ghz (802.11b/g) space tends to be uber-saturated these days everywhere. You only get 3 real non-overlapping channel spaces with it too. Might just be that... I had resolved a long-standing issue with performance on cox's network by setting a sysctl for the

Re: Horribly OT odious troll food

2009-08-06 Thread keith smith
I wish I had time to get involved in this one Sorry to let you down. Keith Smith --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com wrote: From: Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com Subject: Horribly OT odious troll food To: Main PLUG discussion list

Re: Memory leaks in Ubuntu?

2009-08-06 Thread Matt Graham
From: Michael Butash mich...@butash.net Meh, I've had too many ati cards die and freak out my systems, which is what drove me to NV. I haven't had one NV die, but obviously comes with other issues... The problem may not be with the nVidia card, but with the Ubuntu kernel itself. Debian and

Re: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Thanks from me as well! -jmz On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Bob Elzerbob.el...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info Alan, maybe we could create a web page on the server with the history of PLUG Az with some of this info. -Original Message- From:

Re: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Lisa Kachold
I have been active in the PLUG, attending at least 1 monthly meeting and putting on one security Lab for at least a year. Before that I was attending one meeting every other month for a year, and I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE? On 8/5/09, Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com wrote:

RE: Problem with Internet speed in laptop in Linux Mint

2009-08-06 Thread Bob Elzer
No he is correct that the ipv6 is causing the problem, I had the same thing in Redhat at one time, with a wired connection. The answer is to disable the ipv6. I think during install there is an option to turn it off, which I always do now. I know it can be turned off in Redhat after install,

Re: Problem with Internet speed in laptop in Linux Mint

2009-08-06 Thread Eric Shubert
Bob Elzer wrote: No he is correct that the ipv6 is causing the problem, I had the same thing in Redhat at one time, with a wired connection. The answer is to disable the ipv6. I think during install there is an option to turn it off, which I always do now. I know it can be turned off in

RE: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Bob Elzer
It must be a top secret men's organization, with a secret handshake and all that. :-) Spanky and Alfalfa, were the original members. lol -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Lisa

RE: Problem with Internet speed in laptop in Linux Mint

2009-08-06 Thread Bob Elzer
Yep, that was it. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:39 AM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: Problem with

AWE... How Kute!

2009-08-06 Thread Lisa Kachold
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Re: AWE... How Kute!

2009-08-06 Thread Ryan Rix
Lisa Kachold wrote: http://tinycorelinux.com/ No, what's Kute, is the KDE 4.3 that was just released. ;) It's kool what you can do with kew-tee. :) Yeah, tinycore looks like fun though. :D -- --- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 1. is qmail as secure as they say? Depends on what they were

Re: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Jarvis
I mostly just read the posts I'm interested in and occasionally ask a question. I think that PLUG works just fine as it is--If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Mark Jarvis Alan Dayley wrote: Another thread about the sonoran penguin and making a theme for the website surfaced some discussion

Re: Problem with Internet speed in laptop in Linux Mint

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
YAY working! On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Bob Elzerbob.el...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, that was it. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Thursday, August 06,

Re: AWE... How Kute!

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
i wonder if you can attach vlc or something like it to that install might make for a lightweight media center base.. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ryan Rixphrkonale...@gmail.com wrote: Lisa Kachold wrote: http://tinycorelinux.com/ No, what's Kute, is the KDE 4.3 that was just

Re: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
Wait? It takes money to do everything right, beit create flyers, to stickers to tee shirts. Someone submits everything to the plug, yet members suffer because tee shirts aren't available and all events that take real assets must be supported by individuals? No really cool things get done for the

RE: Problem with Internet speed in laptop in Linux Mint

2009-08-06 Thread Bob Elzer
What kind of speed is the laptop ketting now, same as the desktop ? -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:27 PM To: Main PLUG discussion

Re: AWE... How Kute!

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
Linux has cooties... we just like em. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Bob Elzerbob.el...@gmail.com wrote: Are you telling us kde 4.3 has the kooties ?  ewww !! -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us

Re: AWE... How Kute!

2009-08-06 Thread David Munson
I have the ISO and a desire to learn. If I manage to do it, I'll let you know. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: i wonder if you can attach vlc or something like it to that install might make for a lightweight media center base.. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at

Re: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Ryan Rix
Stephen wrote: Wait? It takes money to do everything right, beit create flyers, to stickers to tee shirts. Someone submits everything to the plug, yet members suffer because tee shirts aren't available and all events that take real assets must be supported by individuals? No really cool

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-06 Thread Trent Shipley
Dazed_75 wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com wrote: Dazed_75 wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com mailto:tship...@deru.com

Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Shawn Badger
Does any on the list know of a good web based ssh client? I would prefer it to run on my own system as opposed to going though one that I don't have control over. It would also be nice if it was able to pass x-windows as well all though that isn't a requirement.

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
I know that webmin has a web based ssh console built in, it is java based but not to horrible. its other features are really quite nice as well. making it a very nice package for me to manage my boxes. i am not sure however of its security when exposed to the outside world. as for xwindows i

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Shawn Badger
I have played with webmin in the past, but would like did ssh and was lighter weight. As for VNC, I am restricted to using port 443 to connect to the machine so it needs to be embedded in the browser. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I know that webmin has a

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Shawn Badger
This is the closest thing that I have found so far, but it looks like a dead project. http://javassh.org/space/start On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Shawn Badger badger.sh...@gmail.com wrote: I have played with webmin in the past, but would like did ssh and was lighter weight. As for VNC, I

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 16:04 -0700, Shawn Badger wrote: Does any on the list know of a good web based ssh client? I would prefer it to run on my own system as opposed to going though one that I don't have control over. It would also be nice if it was able to pass x-windows as well all though

Re: Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds

2009-08-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 07:43 -0700, Dennis Kibbe wrote: M$ has a long ways to go before I'd consider them a genuine member of the FLOSS community. I think that it's very important to make our community a welcoming one. Even if someone like Microsoft is slow to contribute and learn, we should

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread David Huerta
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Shawn Badgerbadger.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Does any on the list know of a good web based ssh client? I would prefer it to run on my own system as opposed to going though one that I don't have control over. It would also be nice if it was able to pass x-windows as

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Shawn Badger
I know the security is going to be tough on it, but it will be locked down. That looks close to what I need short of the already done web integration (I can't code). On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 16:04 -0700, Shawn Badger wrote: Does any

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Shawn Badger
That is more like what I ma looking for. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM, David Huerta huerta...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Shawn Badgerbadger.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Does any on the list know of a good web based ssh client? I would prefer it to run on my own system as

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Stephen
also there is a wikepedia article if you google web ssh or jsut browse them, they appeared to have a few options. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Shawn Badgerbadger.sh...@gmail.com wrote: That is more like what I ma looking for. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM, David Huerta huerta...@gmail.com

Re: Web based ssh console

2009-08-06 Thread Lisa Kachold
I can offer my services to help you clean out the vermin later! If they can't protect OpenSSL based SSH, even with a layer of IPTABLES, how are you going to protect a system suid process? Laugh I agree with Ted here. On 8/6/09, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: also there is a wikepedia

Re: Microsoft Submits Code to Linux Kernel - Linus Responds

2009-08-06 Thread Ryan Rix
Ted Gould wrote: We can be cautious, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be encouraging E-E-E, and not the netbook. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/06/2322209/Microsoft-Patents-XML-Word- Processing-Documents?from=rss -- --- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? A:

Re: PLUG governance, etc.

2009-08-06 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I agree with practically everything you've stated below. -jmz On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Lisa Kacholdlisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: I have been active in the PLUG, attending at least 1 monthly meeting and putting on one security Lab for at least a year.  Before that I was attending one

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2009-08-06 Thread Alan Dayley
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