Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Stephen
here is a question from me, you have a weath of information on how to remove it, but no links as to why? this is the first time i have seen this product so i have heard very little one way or another. if you have links as to why its a bad application to have then i would like to hear it/see it.

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
This agent allows a remote party to completely control or watch everything done on the desktop on various systems using a Firefox or script plugin. It's similar to LivePerson cookies but much more powerful. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: here is a question

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Stephen
so is it a weakness in the client that someone can break into, or is it a heathy paranoia of such clients exiting with a managed company that you may or may not trust? On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: This agent allows a remote party to completely

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
It can be used for malicious reasons. It is currently being used by NSA and government surveillance of citizens of interest, or it can be used for technical support purposes. It is currently being delivered for Linux Chrome. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Eric Cope
do you know any other products that ship with it? On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote: It can be used for malicious reasons. It is currently being used by NSA and government surveillance of citizens of interest, or it can be used for technical support

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
They have not only web browser plugins but a great deal of scripts and other tools. You have to check the links I included for the kaseya web site related to your OS/Browser or application. It is not cheap. Free applications and online tools exist to do the same thing. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: It can be used for malicious reasons. so can almost any tool As you later note: It is not cheap. Free applications and online tools exist to do the samething. drop in a VNC server, pre-key it, and hide it from the process table listing, and one

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread keith smith
/ Keith Smith --- On Thu, 8/12/10, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote: From: R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents You To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:19 AM On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
herr...@owlriver.com Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents You To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:19 AM On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: It can be used for malicious reasons. so can almost any tool As you later note

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: OPPS, I seem to have started a political conversation! no, you made some assertions as to technical matter [with seemingly a Linux client hook], and I asked for some URLs to demonstrate the basis for your belief. A third party wanted to be a lawyer

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: OPPS, I seem to have started a political conversation! no, you made some assertions as to technical matter [with seemingly a Linux client hook], and I asked for some URLs to

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread keith smith
wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents You To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:21 AM On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents You To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:21 AM On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.comhttp://mc/compose?to=herr...@owlriver.com wrote: On Thu

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13224.htm http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/FreedomofInformationAct/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy My question echoes that of Joe Friday: All we want are the

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread keith smith
. Looking back 20 to 40 years from now will pretty interesting. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents You To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread keith smith
...@obnosis.com wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents You To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 11:02 AM http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13224.htm http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13224.htm http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/FreedomofInformationAct/

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:27 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't have time to argue here. I hope to have several websites active around the first of the years that point out and report on many disturbing trends. When I have them ready I will post the links. snip I like

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Technomage_Hawke
uh yeah, and its why I didn't comment about the tool. I knew it would go this way. The tool itself appears pretty innocuous by itself. However, as we all know, any tool can be abused. On Aug 12, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: OPPS, I seem to have started a political conversation!

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Technomage_Hawke technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote: uh yeah, and its why I didn't comment about the tool. I knew it would go this way. The tool itself appears pretty innocuous by itself. However, as we all know, any tool can be abused. True

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: conspicuously absent from any of those links is any mention of Kaseya There are too many links to reference. This is common security knowledge. as they are so profuse, let's agree to just look at the best two you know of. Standing by -- Russ

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Tuna
On 08/11/2010 07:54 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: Kaseya: Sometimes a Free Tool, Sometimes a convenient Hack, Sometimes a Government Surveillance Tool? How to Remove a Kaseya Agent: 1) Windows Hidden Type: %programfiles%\InstallShield Installation

Re: Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Tuna t...@supertunaman.com wrote: On 08/11/2010 07:54 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: Kaseya: Sometimes a Free Tool, Sometimes a convenient Hack, Sometimes a Government Surveillance Tool? How to Remove a Kaseya Agent: 1) Windows Hidden Type:

Kaseya Agents You

2010-08-11 Thread Lisa Kachold
Kaseya: Sometimes a Free Tool, Sometimes a convenient Hack, Sometimes a Government Surveillance Tool? How to Remove a Kaseya Agent: 1) Windows Hidden Type: %programfiles%\InstallShield Installation Information\{48C76121-4F90-11D5-9884-0050BA85A903}\Setup.exe UNINSTALL 2) OS X: 1. Download