I think seceding is a grand *idea* but then what about all the people who
depend on the government for sustenance (social security)?
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Joe Gibbs joegibbs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This is OT topic by a lot.
Please keep politics and religion off a
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote:
The Declaration of Independence states: Governments are instituted among
men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
the
May I point out that winning a war doesn't make you right... nor does it
make the opposition any more compliant in the long term...
If at first you don't secede, try and try again. :)
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM
Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:
From: Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 1:31 PM
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote:
The Declaration of Independence
What is different is all 50 states want to go their separate way.
Is this true? Cool!
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Something to consider is that while there are groups of people in each
state that want to secede, not EVERYONE in the state wants to secede. The
question is what constitutes critical mass to trigger the change. The
colonists only had support from about 20% of the population. How much does
each
I think that people that don't like the way the country is going should
move to texas and then only teas seceed. There already is a provision in
their founding documents that they could separate into 3 states.
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote:
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Keith Smith
--- On *Thu, 11/15/12, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net* wrote:
From: Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 1:31 PM
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM -0700
?
Keith Smith
--- On Thu, 11/15/12, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 3:09 PM
I think that people
: Joe Gibbs joegibbs...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 3:21 PM
I call that statement bull crap.
Just because someone created a petition does not mean that all/most
I'll second that. :) Take away my motivation/reward to do more than I need
to and guess what... I'll stop. Health care is expensive mostly because
of governmental regulations/bureaucracy. If I created a medical device
that would magically cure cancer guess what my odds would be of getting it
Thanks no. And I find this inappropriate for this list.
On Nov 14, 2012 4:17 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
The Declaration of Independence states: Governments are instituted among
men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
whenever any form of government becomes
On 11/14/2012 04:10 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
The Declaration of Independence states: Governments are instituted among
men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
the Right of the People to
I've been watching this and a number of other issues unfold over that last 4 or
5 days. We definitely live in interesting times.
I whole heatedly agree we need to fix our relationship with the federal
government, and believe me I would love to secede, however I think it might be
Any contract can be broken.
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 11/14/12, Wayne Davis wayda...@centurylink.net wrote:
From: Wayne Davis wayda...@centurylink.net
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date
Hi Joe,
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:10 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
The Declaration of Independence states: Governments are instituted among
men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
the
I guess that a majority of the vote nationwide and a huge margin in the
electoral college somehow does not indicate consent of the governed. I
wholeheartedly agree that this list is NOT the place for any discussion of
politics.
Original message intentionally omitted from my response
From Da
fa...@cox.net
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 5:03 PM
I guess that a majority of the vote nationwide and a huge margin in the
electoral college somehow does not indicate consent
AND once you sign ANY petition there (which has about as much weight as
an idea) they spam the heck out of you with more petitions to sign.. no
thanks!
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Wayne Davis wayda...@centurylink.netwrote:
On 11/14/2012 04:10 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
The
And what does this thread have to do with LINUX?
Mark
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote:
AND once you sign ANY petition there (which has about as much weight
as an idea) they spam the heck out of you with more petitions to sign.. no
thanks!
On
It's OT, discard it if you don't like it.
OT is an accepted format at PLUG, however, this is not a moderated list.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:
And what does this thread have to do with LINUX?
Mark
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM, JD
Btw, While I voiced that we take a different direction I would like to say I
have the utmost respect for Joe and I always value his opinion.
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 11/14/12, j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com wrote:
From: j...@actionline.com j...@actionline.com
I agree about this not being a place to discuss politics. Correct me if
I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that this list is for the
discussion of issues dealing with linux.
Also no matter who you vote for, you'll end up with a collection of
crooked politicians.
Lists dedicated to
Hi,
This is OT topic by a lot.
Please keep politics and religion off a tech blog, unless of course you
want to be added to the ignore list and ALL your posts are tossed into the
trash pile without being read.
If I wanted to read about someone's personal politics I would go to one of
the many
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