Hi all,
I had missed updating one of the plugin version numbers (I said it'd been a
while) and I think that was causing the plugin to think it was still out of
date.
I've updated the version on my website.
Nice to know people are still using it!
James
I've updated the iTunesUpdate version on my website with this new change, and
I've updated the repository used to update the plugins automatically.
It's been a long time, so fingers crossed...
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Thanks!
Do you mind if I add this to the plugin package?
Is it worth keeping the original version?
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the problem I had to force iTunes to overwrite the v1.1 tags - changing
any other version had no effect!
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That does imply some sort of discrepancy between the MP3 tags that SlimServer
is reading and the meta-data that iTunes is using. Do you see anything
obviously wrong when you look the Get Info screens in iTunes? Maybe different
types of apostrophe?
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The first track has accented characters so I'm not really surprised it wasn't
found.
But the 2nd looks pretty simple - what happens if you type
The Beach Boys Made In U.S.A. Surfin' USA
Into the search box in iTunes itself? That's essentially what the plugin does
to find the tracks...
James
OK so the problem is with Mac::AppleScript::Glue.
I don't have a Mac so I can't really help with this, but maybe someone else can?
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Logs tell me can't find that song in itunes, but the playlist is from itunes.
What does the log say exactly?
Common problems are accented tracks or multi-disc sets...
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Sounds like 'nothing being played' is the problem!
You'll need to enable the debug log level of the plugin and check the logs to
see what's going wrong...
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That's strange, half-star ratings are core iTunes functionality as far as I
know.
You could check in the backed up iTunes database xml to see if it has half-star
ratings and start over with it?
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Is this not on the plugins wiki any more?
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I would suggest reinstalling the same version iTunes - that usually fixes the
OLE problems.
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Should be a file called iTunes_Hist.txt in the Playlists directory,
the location of which you can find in Server Settings- Playlist Folder
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That's right, so it seems like an issue with iTunes.
I've got iTunes 10 on a laptop, I'll see if I can recreate this...
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Thanks - at least we know that SlimServer's clock agrees with yours!
I need to check how the plugin sets the date, as I recall it just refers to the
'current' time...
What's the timezone on your PC set to?
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It would be in settings-advanced-logging.
There should be a huge list of dropdown boxes and one will be
plugin.itunesupdate or something similar.
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From memory, if you're running on Windows with direct updates enabled, the
play time in iTunes is updated to whatever Perl thinks the current time is.
You could enable the debug level logging of iTunesUpdate and check the log
after playing a track - the output may contain some clues?
James
Sorry, not using iTunes 10 myself.
The plugin stopping working after an iTunes upgrade is a fairly common issue
(on Windows) and reinstallating usually fixes the issue. Seems like it fails to
install the COM components sometimes.
Anyone using iTunes 10 without issues?
James
with this manually to
see if you can get it to work.
Hope that helps
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Those warnings shouldn't stop the plugin from working. (Although I am sure I
have fixed them already)
Slow startup time may indicate a problem opening iTunes from the plugin.
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I think the 1753 error has come up a few times before.
You can try searching the forums for it but not sure there's ever been a
definite answer as to what it is and how to fix it!
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Hi,
First suggestion would be to change the plugin.iTunesUpdate logging setting to
Debug to see what's really happening.
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The Controller menu mysteriously stopped working on SC 7.4,
I have been working intermittently on fixing it but I don't have a finished
version yet.
Using TrackStat to rate tracks should work as Erlend suggests.
James
The latest version is always on my website at www.jamescraig.co.uk/SlimServer ,
although I recommend installing the plugin using the extension downloader
within SqueezeCenter.
I will have to check whether the script does actually support the skip count!
James
Thanks Erland, I forget I have the scrobbling switched off at home!
I've posted a new version 1.2.8 that fixes this bug and possibly restores the
controller menu.
The repository is updated so this should appear as an update in SqueezeCenter.
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The script should be in the zip file - I'll check where it's gone...
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I thought that (durationSecs) was fixed in the latest release?
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It *should* work on later versions.
I was resisting upgrading iTunes for some time but I think I'm on at least 8
now.
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Indeed, it will not work without Mac::AppleScript::Glue installed.
I can't really help with that, but I would suggest posting the log from when
you try installing it for others to have a look at.
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Yes, and I can't work out why this isn't working!
It seems like 'radio' plugins are no longer automatically added to the
Controller menus.
But when I manually add the menu, it doesn't appear!
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I've posted a new release, v1.2.7 to
http://slimscrobbler.sourceforge.net and updated the plugin repository.
With Frederik's changes the plugin seems to be working OK to me!
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Hi Frederik,
Thanks very much for doing what I am too busy (lazy) to do.
I'm happy to add your patch to the official SqueezeScrobbler if you want?
I still don't understand why people are using SqueezeScrobbler rather than the
official plugin though!
James
OK, I'll take a look at the weekend - it looked mainly like syntax changes in
the plugin API.
I thought someone said if you're outside the supported countries, LastFM stops
permanently after 30 songs?
Is that not the case?
James
corrupted in some way?
The only thing I can suggest is adding the following to the Plugin.pm file to
enable printing of the Applescript being executed:
$Mac::AppleScript::Glue::Debug{SCRIPT} = 1;
Perhaps this will shed some light on the problem?
James
This is a bit puzzling.
I assume the plugin isn't disabled because it wouldn't show up in the menus.
You are playing local files, not internet radio or similar?
Can you post a full log file from server startup?
James
Sorry, that doesn't help much.
In what way is the plugin not working?
Does it show up in the menus at all?
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OK, so maybe a file path problem.
I'd need to see the log file output when a track finishes playing, with the
plugin.itunesupdate logging set to debug.
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That's all there is.
I am sure I have some tracks with ! in them so it seems unusual.
If you paste:
Godspeed You! Black Emperor Yanqui U.X.O. 09-15-00 (Part One)
into the iTunes search box does the track show up?
James
Hey good point.
Looks like the OP has some issues with conflicting tags in their files?
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changing the plugin.itunesupdate log level to Debug.
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Seems like it!
I think you said you installed the plugin manually?
I would suggest using the Extension Downloader as that seems to work fine for
everyone.
The plugin doesn't work on the Controller any more - I'm looking into this but
it's a bit of a mystery what's changed!
James
There no half star rating and no synching/launching itunes???
How did you install it?
Does the plugin show up at all?
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uninstalling and reinstalling first.
If that doesn't help, take a look in the log file for any errors...
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compatible with v7.3.
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Yes, there's already been a thread on this.
I'm not using 7.4 so I haven't updated the plugin yet - maybe I will this week.
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iTunesUpdate doesn't use the iTunes library file, it communicates directly with
the iTunes application.
It can only do this on Windows or OSX.
Instructions for using iTunesUpdate on LINUX are in the plugin's readme file.
James
I would guess that you don't have perl installed on your Mac?
Or maybe one needs to explicitly call perl on the script e.g.
perl ./iTunesUpdate.pl /Volumes/media/Music/Playlists/iTunes_Hist.txt
I'm not really a Mac expert though.
James
. That implies your iTunes
doesn't know where its files are, which would be a bit worrying!
I'll add the perl path, I'd thought I'd done that before!
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Looks like the tracks object has changed in 7.4 and the plugin needs updating.
I am not keeping up with 7.4 so can't say when that will be!
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It looks to me like you can join up as an Apple developer for free and then
download the developer tools.
http://developer.apple.com/Tools/
That's about as much assistance as I can offer, as I still don't have a Mac!
James
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But even if this works, it's still only a matter of time until the old service
the plugin uses is switched off by LastFM
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I had a look on the LastFM forums and I could not find any discussion on what
had happened.
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me keeping the Scrobbler side going?
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It's the only way to get Last.fm RADIO on your squeezebox if you don't live
in US, UK or GER...
I thought you could just change your location in SqueezeNetwork?
Does that not work any more?
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Unfortunately I have neither a linux or Mac box, so while this might be
possible, it wouldn't be me doing it!
I'm happy to accept any enhancements from other people though.
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Hi Starcat,
The plugin actually does the updating via iTunes' own interface (using COM on
Windows and Applescript on the Mac), so in fact iTunes must be running for it
to work!
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iTunesUpdate.pl should log directly to the command line when running - are you
not getting any output?
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You need to change the 'group discs' option in server behaviour to 'treat multi
disc sets as a single album'
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Have you disabled the built in LastFM plugin?
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Where are you looking for 'Radio Options'?
You should be able to start playback from the LastFM menu options in the web
and player interfaces.
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Doesn't sound like you're looking in the right place - it's in the Internet
Radio section.
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It's actually LastFM using some very peculiar UTF8 characters that is the cause
of this.
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, on Windows, when you try and close iTunes after using
iTunesUpdate, a dialog pops up that warns you that someone is accessing
iTunes using scripting and gives you 30 seconds to cancel the shutdown,
which delays my PC shutting down.
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You've read the instructions and installed the Mac::Applescript::Glue module,
right?
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OK, I think I've fixed all of the station problems now with new version
1.2.5!
I've updated the repository with the new version or download from
slimscrobbler.sourceforge.net
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- essentially when the plugin requests a
station change, LastFM used to respond with a confirmation that would include
the station that was changed to.
Recently they changed the response so that station name is reformatted (e.g.
capitalised and URL escaped) and this causes a loop in the plugin.
James
Oh dear. Well at least it works for artists or tracks with only one work in
their name ;-)
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Seems there is a parity check error when trying to install v1.2.4 via
Extension Downloader.
Thanks, I'll find out what the problem is...
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Quite right, I had put the wrong checksum in!
Extension Downloader should be working now.
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V1.2.3 should work except for similar artist radio stations.
I can't promise a date for a full fix for the issues, I've been a bit busy
recently!
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I've uploaded a new v1.2.4 that should fix any stations still not
working.
Download from
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=105780package_id=247364release_id=648496
or just check the Extension Downloader for the new version.
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It's always done this, nothing new.
There's no notification that plugins can use to tell when a track finishes
playing, just when a new one starts.
(Or at least, there wasn't when then the plugin was written).
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the repository thing already but doesn't look like I ever
did - I will try and sort this out...
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Sorry, meant to reply yesterday.
I imagine it's a slight variation of the problem that occurred earlier.
I will look into a more robust fix for the issue in general but it won't be for
a couple of days...
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As has already been pointed out, you can use SqueezeScrobbler to listen to
LastFM wherever you are:
http://slimscrobbler.sourceforge.net
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LastFM has 'similar artists' stations, which are created automatically in the
LastFM menus for the recently played artists.
I believe they're not allowed by the record labels to play specific artist
stations, as that functionality used to exist but was removed some time ago.
James
Another vote for Timespeller from me...
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. not re-saved
if only viewed),
Possibly the rating from trackstat doesn't trigger that correctly.
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Sorry, I meant in the SqueezeCenter log file, after the track is played.
I will take a look at the code, I suspect it's the bug I described.
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Yes, the log looks fine, so almost certainly a LastFM problem, they're a bit
hopeless at the weekends...
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, or iTunesUpdate doesn't get
the rating at all?
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You're best off asking in the Squeezenetwork forum I think.
The LastFM plugin is all run through Squeezenetwork.
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Is 'Favourites' still a plugin in 7.3? If so, disabling it and restarting
should solve the problem.
If not, it might be a more complicated change - I'll have to check (I don't use
the ratings from the remote very often!)
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If you don't even have a SqueezeScrobbler install, in either server\Slim\Plugin
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I strongly suspect you are on the wrong thread!
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You probably need to change the SqueezeCentre startup option to 'start when I
login' for the iTunes connectivity to work.
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Is there a way to set the default to log only errors?
You can change the logging settings in SqueezeCentre, but I'll check if the
plugin is resetting this...
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You need to add the repository at
http://slimscrobbler.sourceforge.net/repository.xml to the list of repositories
and then check the install box by SqueezeScrobbler.
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James, 1.2.1 works well, stations are playing again :)
Except, tracks are not being scrobbled anymore ... I'm seeing 'Not
timing remote URL' messages in the log, that could be related?
Good point, I deleted too much code!
Version 1.2.2 available from Sourceforge fixes this bug.
James
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as for most users all of the functionality of SqueezeScrobbler is provided in
core plugins already?
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I think this happens when the plugin was in the wrong place but is then moved
to the right one.
Try deleting the plugin-data.yaml file from the SqueezeCenter cache directory,
then restart?
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Do you have the actual URL that's being played?
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Sounds like it's not installed correctly.
Do you get any errors in the log on starting SqueezeCentre?
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I actually just posted a new version that fixes the problem!
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I did get the basic playback working but there's some testing to do on the
menus.
Should have it finished next week.
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I will take a look at this tonight (just back from a long holiday).
Looks like something changed in the SqueezeCenter plugin api...
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