mrw wrote:
> I have the same/similar question.
>
> I'm sure it used to report better, X years ago. But my memory may be
> faulty. Have you tried it with ethernet cable ?
>
> If it really was better, then I speculate that the Wifi card might be a
> bit short of power - failing power supply
Does anyone know about Triode's Network Test plugin? My SB3 is connected
to LMS 8.3.0 on a Pi4 via WiFi. The Wifi is very good but the SB3 seems
to think it is rubbish!
500kbps 100 100
1000kbs 68 75
2000kbs 33 60
I hvave no idea what these numbers mean to be honest. If I place my
phone right
bpa wrote:
> my basic understanding.
>
> PCM Audio is sent via ALSA interface to ALSA device driver.
>
> Audio samples are put into a ring buffer.
> The ring buffer size is controlled by the buffer parameter.
> The ring buffer is processed in terms of periods (i.e there x periods in
> the
Hi - running SqueezeLite and LMS 8.1.2 (latest versions) on my Pi4 I
found there was serious rebuffering on my Pi and SB3s earlier this year
when playing FLACs unless I specified "-a :::0". More recently I noticed
some background/popping noise on the Pi's headphone jack unless I
specified "-a
Squeezelite working perfectly now with -a 120:4::0
I may post new thread to try and get a better understanding of this -a
option
Thank you very much for your help!!
SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI
subwoofer
3 x SB3s + SB Radio
LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4
Rotel
It's not as I expected. If I use /etc/init.d/squeezelite stop/start, it
doesn't seem to pick up the parameters from /etc/default/squeezelite, it
still takes the params from ExecStart in
/etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service.
If I change the ExecStart line then on re-starting squeezelite I get
That's very helpful. So presumably if I update /etc/default/squeezelite
with the -a 120:4::0, the soundcard, -C 5 etc., then I can change the
auto start line in squeezelite.service simply to
"ExecStart=/usr/bin/squeezelite"?
But will /etc/default/squeezelite get overwritten every time I update
My boot.txt is all HDMI stuff apart from "dtparam=audio=on" which looks
pretty unexciting.
I had tried the -a 120:4::0 suggested at the top of this thread which
seems to work. I am just trying to understand what these numbers mean. I
think I'll post a new more specific thread.
I have also
Yep - I already have that:
ExecStart=/usr/bin/squeezelite -o plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0 -n
Pi_SqueezeliteService -C 5 -a :::0
I added the -a :::0 in January after a system update caused a lot of
very significant rebuffering. No idea what the option does! This
"popping" noise is fairly
I found a 3.0A PSU, used a smaller fatter USB cable, and set -a :::0.
I also put a power meter on the PSU, which drew a peak of 1.4A during
boot up, and then ticked along at c1.2A. Amazingly removing the 2nd USB
stick dropped the power consumption by 0.2A to 1.0A.
Unfortunately the popping is
Man in a van wrote:
> @rbl
>
> What sort of flacs ? How were they ripped?
>
>
> Where are they stored ?
>
>
> How did you install squeezelite ?
>
>
> Buster Desktop or Lite ?
>
>
> Which power supply for the rpi ?
>
>
> When
ralphy wrote:
> I would recommend using -o hw:CARD=D10,DEV=0 for the output device.
>
> If you are using the USB interface to the DAC try -a 120:4::0
>
> If you still experience pops/clicks then try -a 16384:4096
I have been getting popping noises on my Pi4 headphone output when
playing
Upgrading to LMS 8.1.2 and SqueezeLite 1.9.9 seems to have done the
trick ... thanks very much.
SB3 -> Quad 909 -> Quad Electrostatic speakers, Quad 405 -> TBI
subwoofer
3 x SB3s + SB Radio
LMS on Raspbian on a Pi4
Rotel RSP1068 surround processor, Quad 707 -> B surround
Man in a van wrote:
> Why such an old version of LMS ?
>
> And is your squeezelite up to date?
>
> ronnie
Good thinking. Should I upgrade to LMS 7.9.4? Or 8.? ? I guess 8.? is
still experimental so 7.9.4 is probably better?
I was running SqueezeLite 1.8 on the Pi4 so have upgraded 1.9.9
I have also added -a :::0 after getting a lot of re-buffering after an
update a month or two ago. But I still get occasional re-buffering. It
works 100% perfectly on streaming radio, but when playing my FLACs every
so often it locks up for about 30s, and eventually gets going again.
This happens
bpa wrote:
>
> 1 min skip back is not worthwhile doing - the plugin thinks less than 1
> mins or less is just a delay by BBC. This was done because timestamp of
> audio packet being played can be delayed by BBC. Skip back works on
> actual time not relative time as packets in stream are
bpa wrote:
> On Classical GUI It is the M menu on the Right Hand pane beside the
> playing item
> On material - click triple dots on RHS and then choose More
>
>
> It should skip more than once.
> On "Live " you can skip back usually up to about 3 hours. Most typical
> use is to "skip back
bpa wrote:
> >> & << are not used for ffwd / rew live streams.
>
> Skip forward & back of a live stream is only supported for DASH.
> After I had implemented ffw & rew of a live stream, I trialled had a
> version of the plugin which used >> & << to do the action.
> However user feedback was
I'm running iPlayer 1.6.9 on a Raspberry Pi4 running LMS 7.9.2 -
1578996832.
If, listening to say BBC Radio 4 live, I press << it just goes back
about 1 second, and >> goes forward about 1 second (I think) .
On listen again, clicking on the progress bar works as expected, but <<
and >> is
bpa wrote:
> Everything looks mostly as expected.
> Using the "always display station icon" is not what is used by mist
> people but it works OK when I've tried.
>
> The audio format setting are very old. BBC have not had FlashAAC
> FlashMP3 content for a 3-4 years now - for best ongoing
bpa wrote:
> It should display as it is the same code as all the other BBC stations
> and they work OK for me so there is no apparent BBC issue (although BBC
> CDN network is distributed regionally so it is possible to have an issue
> in one region).
>
> More info may help - if you want to try
Hi
When using the iPlayer plugin for live or On Demand streaming, the BBC
icon appears together with the metadata as expected.
However in the case of live streaming BBC Radio 4 FM neither the icon
nor the metadata appear for. BBC 4 FM On Demand works as expected, as do
other channels such as
bpa wrote:
> You haven't answered my questionb aboitu UK .non Uk.
>
> 1. All the metadata stuff is generic - it can be obtained no matter
> where you are or what access is used. It doesn't really come from the
> streaming part of their systems.
> 2 If plugin is trying to the playing UK only
castalla wrote:
> FAIK the Beeb actively blocks 'known' commercial VPNs - maybe that's the
> issue?
You are right, it does, certainly for TV anyway. Hence I am adding the
exceptions in my original post so the iPlayer radio should be bypassing
the VPN (plus I am using a BBC "compliant" VPN
bpa wrote:
> What is the VPN doing ? making a UK user appear in a non UK country ?
If I click say Radio 2 when the VPN is connected, then the Radio 2 Icon
appears, besides which it says
- Jeremy Vine (i.e. name of the current radio show)
- 29/11/2019
- BBC Radio 2
- 320kbps, VBR, AAC LC
Hi - does anyone know how to get BBC iPlayer radio working with a VPN
(e.g. CyberGhost)?
- CyberGhost is meant to work with iPlayer but the radio doesn't work.
But that should be irrelevant since I have tried adding the following
exception URLs (amongst others) which bypass the VPN altogether.
Well, this problem really does seem to have fixed itself now for both
iPlayer and FLAC files. Not sure if the fix was one of the many recent
Win 10 Pro updates, or because I updated to LMS 7.9.2 - 1556111457...
rbl's
You were right, it was wishful thinking. The original problem (of not
being able to play the radio station that was playing when the PC went
to sleep) is still there, it just seems to be intermittent. In fact
today the radio stream automatically started playing all by itself,
although it took a
bpa wrote:
> Thanks at least I now know what to test at some point.
>
> My W10 PC has the same states but when I testing I have been using the
> "power" control which offer "Sleep" , "Restart" or "shutdown!. No
> indication what "Sleep" corresponds to - Hibernate, S3 or Hyrbid Sleep.
>
> My
bpa wrote:
> I think this may be wishful thinking rather than actual improvement.
>
>
> I cannot test until you tell me exactly how you shutdown and wake up the
> players and systems.
> Does the player shut the server down ?
> Does the server shutdown out of inactivity ?
> Is the server
bpa wrote:
> Just did a >3 hr test.
>
> W10 was sleeping. Radio was off. Powered on Radio. Then woke up W10
> with keyboard . Stream starting playing on Radio with no other (e.g.
> "rebuffering" )messages.
Thanks and apologies for the delay in replying.
Since I changed the Live Stream
bpa wrote:
> If you are playing Live streams using pre 1.6.2 BBCiPlayer on LMS 7.9.0
> or older - this is most likely a LMS bug specific to Windows. You need
> latest BBCiPlayer (1.6.5) but MUST have latest LMS (7.9.2).
>
> If not the Windows bug This sounds like a network / DNS issue so full
After waking my Win10 64bit PC via LAN, it is hard to get iPlayer to
start playing the radio station it was playing when the PC was put to
sleep. I find I have to first play a different BBC radio station, then
go back to the original one that was playing. A minor inconvenience, but
it would be
bpa wrote:
> In WebUI Setting/Plugins at the bottom where it says "Additional
> Repositories" - paste the following
> HTTP://DOWNLOADS.SOURCEFORGE.NET/PROJECT/BPAPLUGINS/BETARELEASE-REPO.XML
>
> After pasting click Apply and possible restart LMS.
>
> Rather than be immediately activated
I have a new Windows 10 Pr installation, and just reinstalled the
iPlayer plugin via Settings->Plugin page, but it is saying it is version
v1.3.1alpha3. I have found a 1.6.0 but how do I install it? I want to
get it "right" first time as have had problems in the past. Is there a
link anywhere
bpa wrote:
> Are you in the UK ?
>
> This should only affect live streams and by "old" problem - it is only
> about 12-18 months.
>
> It is a problem only with Windows systems mainly 10 but I suspect also 8
> but oddly not all configurations.
> I don't have a Windows 10 system so I can't
To get BBC iPlayer to work well I have to set the "seconds to delay
start live stream" to 2 minutes. If I set it to 1 minute the playback
breaks up every few minutes. If I set it to 15 seconds not only does
playback break up, but it also takes about 30 seconds to start playback
at all. I think
FYI, and for anyone else reading this thread, it works even better with
a 2 minute delay. With the 1 minute delay it would break up a couple of
times over the first few minutes of listening and then played reliably.
With a 2 minute delay I don't get any break up. It starts quickly and
plays
bpa wrote:
> HLS is 1st preference and 1.4* and1.5.* are all about playing DASH and
> playing setting only apply to DASH. HLS code has not changed from 1.3
>
>
> Change the Live and on Demand to
>
> DASH > HLS > MP3 > FlashAAC.
That helped a lot! Thank you!
I find, as you mentioned,
bpa wrote:
> Strange - the settings worked for other W10 users.
>
> What formats preferences have for Live set ? The delay settings only
> work for DASH.
Here are all the iPlayer settings ..
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bpa wrote:
> This has been seen before - there is something weird with windows and
> transcoding. It happens with some low end system but also some high end
> but not middling !!. I have tried repodiuing on my i5 SSD 16Gb but I
> think it may also be somehting to so with UK bit rates.
>
> The
bpa wrote:
> For windows use the 1.5.* - I haven't had time to to do a proper release
> of the 1.5.3 but this is the URL
>
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/V153testrelease-repo.xml
>
> You can look at the the 1.5.2 thread regarding features such as rew of
> live streams.
>
bpa wrote:
> The easiest way to play HLS with program info is to use the updated
> BBCiPlayer plugin.
>
> What OS are you using ?
Windows 10 64bit (Home)
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bpa wrote:
> The plugin can provide the info using the options as I described for
> many versions.
> What version are you using ?
I am using
LMS 7.7.5.
BBC iPlayer (v1.3.1alpha3).
BBC iPlayer Extras (v1.8)
PlayHLS (v1.1)
I am using the HLS streams...
I have just noticed at the top of the
bpa wrote:
> There is no point saying another radio station has info so why not the
> BBC. If you want info on possibilities you must give specific details
> from the BBC iPlayer own web broswer based player playing HTML5. Time
> is the problem - I don't have the time to look around to try to
bpa wrote:
> Are you talking about Live or On-demand ?
>
> With live - by "Now playing" do you mean the program name, program
> content or the track info ?
> Program name etc. arer available by enabling the "show onAir text"
> opytion - it is also worthwhile disabling the "always show station
>
I am using the HLS streams with the iPLayer plugin (the usual streams
break up for some reason). The HLS streams work very well, but it would
be nice to get programme information in Now Playing. Plenty of other
radio stations provide this - is it possible to get it with the iPlayer?
I am based
Mnyb wrote:
> No they are not the same player .
Odd since I "powered" down SqueezeLite and installed SqueezePlay. It saw
the desktop server and mysqueezebox, failed to connect to the desktop,
but switched SqueezeLite back on. Guess Ill give it another go...
Before I buy another SB3, I thought I'd just check if there are any
other software solutions that may work? I believe SqueezePlay relies on
SqueezeLite so I am presumably back to the same problem there? Are there
any other software solutions to playing sync'd music on my desktop?
epoch1970 wrote:
> And also because it is better, and looks glorious. I took the liberty of
> sending you a PM yesterday about that. There's an Ebay.co.uk seller this
> week who dumps a Boom, an SB3 (silver/white), and a TP (silver). All
> looking very good.
>
> If you are saying there is a
epoch1970 wrote:
> One more SB3 is never a bad choice I would say.
> But given the environment you describe and the asking price for an SB
> these days, I would take a 2nd hand/refurbished Airport Express
> (2012-current model) and put that near the PC. You would get Airplay
> line out for the
bpa wrote:
> IIRC sync depends on an accurate clock on the audio hardware and many
> PCs don't have good audio hardware but also sometime Windows can do a
> lot of s/w processing (e.g. resample 44.1kHZ to 48 Khz) .
>
> On Windows there are a few different audio API and perhaps one may be
>
epoch1970 wrote:
> Well if you have AirPlay devices (not the shairplay software stuff but
> hardware devices) you could sync an SB3 about perfectly, using the
> AirPlay Bridge plugin.
> Or you can let the SB3 drift (settings>your SB3>Synchronize menu) but I
> have to say I never tried the
I have two SB3s and SqueezeLite running on a Windows 10 desktop, all
wired in. The syncing of SqueezeLite is usually out by a very noticeable
split second. But more annoying is that the SqueezeLite causes crackles
and pops in the SB3s, about once a minute. Presumably these occur as
they all
Hi - I am using BBC iPlayer which works, although I tend now to use the
PlayHLS as it seems to stop/rebuffer less. However the Listen Again
doesn't work at all. E.g. I go to Radio->BBC iPlayer->BBC Radio 4 FM
-> Today and select a program. The program picture and description comes
up, but it
bpa wrote:
> "long time" is not specific ?
>
> When did BBCiPlayer Listen Again last work for you ? Yesterday ? last
> week ? last month ? last year ? Jan 2015 ? Can't remember it has been
> so long ?
>
> What version of BBCiPlayer are you using ?
> When did you install it ?
> When did you
bpa wrote:
> BBC changed their feeds last year in OCT to start DASH support and
> there was a patch to BBCiPlayer posted by utgg on the BBCiplayer thread
> to fix this see
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)=834111=1#post834111
> PlayHLS as
Hi - is there a way to stream music from my Android phone via the
Squeezebox over the WiFi network? E.g. play tunes on my phone's SD card,
or listen to the Spotify / Youtube apps?
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bpa wrote:
> Since we have been around this particular block just last June - I
> wanted to do a bit more digging rather than repeat the same advice.
>
> My suggestion is to try the PlayHLS plugin which is used to play Apple
> HLS m3u8 streams. This plugin uses ffmpeg (or avconv) to process
I still find live BBC radio stuttering a lot (usually for quite short
periods now of just a few seconds). Are other people still finding this,
and has anyone found a solution to this yet?
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it is a lot better than say a couple of months ago, but it has broken up
a few times today (radio 2, 4). Radio 3 certainly breaks up too on
occasion. I'd guestimate there is a break-up about 10-20 times a day,
usually only for a few seconds... It definitely has its moments where it
will break up
bpa wrote:
There are a number of causes for stuttering/pause/gaps so more details
always help.
Does stuttering only happen with live streams or does it happen with
on-demand/Listen Again ?
Is the stuttering - gaps without loss of audio (i.e. pauses) or gaps
without loss of audio ?
What
bpa wrote:
Are you playing the Mp3 or the HLS streams ?
If it is the HLS then the pauses sound like the DNS problem - you don't
say which mods you tried. IIRC You need to enable network.asyncdns to
see what is happening and also check whether the mods have any effect.
Depending on the OS
Has anyone made any progress with these BBC streams? They still seem
pretty rubbish to me ... Although I get the impression that the breakups
are generally shorter these days ...
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Verulamius wrote:
I'm currently not experiencing any problems with triode' iplayer. I'm
using the fmpg variation with tplink powerline homeplugs between my
touch and my rpi2 which is hosting squeezeplug/max2play and a 6Meg
broadband connection.
That said, what does drop is the mp3
I spoke to a buddy who uses his Sonos system to stream BBC Radio 4. He
said it drops out about once every two weeks!! Which begs the
question, what is wrong with the Logitech system!?
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bonze wrote:
Most are trying to get away from relying on the MP3 feeds though.
of course, and I'd love to too, but they don't work! At least these mp3
streams are reasonably reliable. I'll give it another month or so and
try the proper higher bitrate streams and see if the BBC have go their
kesey wrote:
try this:
http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/mypicks/RadioFeedsSBS.zip
I have been using this lately and it does seem a lot better. Bitrate
128Kbps except Radio 3 which is 320Kbps.
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Well I think it is better, but still far from perfect. Whereas
occasionally it re-buffers and no error is shown in the log, usually I
get the following errors:
[15-06-18 10:14:48.1603] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::HLS::_parsePL (199) merged
chunklist now 4 chunks
[15-06-18 10:14:48.1604]
bpa wrote:
Zip file is empty
I'm not sure what you are logging but the following will track the most
common issues.. Note time you start playing and also note time you get
problems.
network.asyncdns to INFO
network.asynchttp to INFO
plugin.bbciplayer to INFO
I am now logging as above,
bonze wrote:
Switching off the two BBC iPlayer settings 'Show Live Text' and 'Show
Slide Show' will stop RadioVis being used.
Ok - have done that and will see what happens. I also changed Radio
Station Buffer Seconds back to 3s to see if RadioVis is the problem. Now
have to wait and see -
bpa wrote:
The log had two sorts of errors which triggered the rebuffering
1. Timeout - this timeout is controlled by WebUI
Settings/Advanced/Network/Radio Station Timeout - if it is 3 or less
can you try increasings it to say 10.
2. Failure to connect but there are Radiovis error
bpa wrote:
Justr in case - keep server.asynchhttp is set to INFO and check for
timeout log message You had one in your log which means one of your
3 rebuffer was caused by timeout and it had no associated Radiovis
error.
The reason why I think 3 secs is too short is because BBC sends
bpa wrote:
Not the Radio Station Buffer Seconds the Radio Station Timeout
Ah - Timeout was already set to 15. Buffer was set to 3. Sounds like
that is all ok then. Well, I'll see how disabling Show Live Text and
Show Slide Show helps things. Once again, thanks for your help...
bpa wrote:
I agree with this suggestion - you should post on an existing BBCiPlayer
thread as this thread title doesn't highlight your issue is really
rebuffering and not which hardware or URLs.
There is some consensus on what can be done to reduce the rebuffering
effect such as changing
I have had this rebuffering problem for months now (BT Infinity
broadband). I have changed the DNS server to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 this
morning, which seems to have made no difference, as R4 has broken up
several times already in the last 30 minutes. I only use Live radio.
R4 is better right now, but it dropped out a few minutes ago, a few
seconds before 12.10.00 today. I had enabled logging, and the file is
attached. There are errors at 12:10:23 but the dropout definitely
happened before this. Any idea what this all means?
18264
Sorry, but it is a nightmare digging through all the endless problems
people have had over recent months with iPlayer / BBC Radio. Just
wondering, what is the currently accepted best way to get BBC live radio
for a UK listener? Currently using BBC iPlayer (v1.3.1alpha3) plugin,
with a good
Thanks. Good to know that at least I am running the right iPlayer
version etc..
Am running LMS 7.7.5 on a Win7 64bit dual core 3.1GHz i3-2100 desktop
with 8GB ram and SSD. It otherwise works very well!
It seems that a lot of people are having buffering problems, and for me
at least there are
I never realised you can run a PI server. Is it easy to setup and does
it run as well as a PC server (and likely to work with Squeezer on my
phone)? Could be a good option ...
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danco wrote:
WMA works well for me. But as it will be cut off soon, it isn't a real
solution.
Have tried the WMA streams over the last few days and I find it still
stops occasionally. BBC iplayer (video) seems a lot worse however ..
danco wrote:
I have had this issue for ages. No problem when BBC iPlayer is set to
WMA only, but we are losing those streams soon.
Other settings always lose the program from time to time. Usually gives
me the message rebuffierng 5% but stops at 5% and shortly gives me a
message Can't
On a slightly different note, does any one get drop out with iPLayer
video? I use my Samsung BDH6500 smart bluray player, and it freezes
every 10 minutes or so, albeit only for a second or two. Odd as other
services seem fine ..
Do you and others have the same problem then?
Seems odd to me that everyone else can make their streams work, radio
and video, including tiny outfits, then why can't the mighty BBC?
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I have used iPlayer for a long time and it is basically very good.
However, every so often it freezes. Sometimes it kicks starts itself
again after 10-30seconds, sometimes it doesn't. This happened on my old
TalkTalk copper connection, but it still happens with my new BT fibre
connection. I live
Hi - I find if SqueezeLite is powered on then my PC won't sleep, even
if no music is being streamed. If I turn it off with the power switch
toggle (and leave the SB3s on) then the PC sleeps. Any idea why this may
be?
rbl's
Good point! Win7 64bit. Completely new install last week with nothing
unusual installed that I can think of
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I used to use to run Squeezeslave so I could access the SB server on
another PC on my local network. When I run Moose it says Connect to
server (7.7.2) - Awaiting Player. I used to just select Player-Start
Squeezeslave and all worked very well. Recently for no apparent reason
it stopped. It just
Got it - not sure how I missed it before! Thanks very much ...
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`transcode{acodec=flac,channels=2}:std{access=file,'
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have got there in a million years!
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Thank you! Have half worked out the problem. The SB3 will play the AAC
file, I just couldn't see the tracks because Media Server was ignoring
the tags that I had set up using mp3tag. Not sure why it ignores the
tags, but at least the tracks are there
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-playlist http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r3_aaclca.pls
Any ideas?
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Perfect - TASKKILL does just the job. All set to go - thanks very much!
PS on radio 3 the listen again does seem quite a lot worse quality than
the live HD stream which is very good.
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