Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-16 Thread Christophe David
This is not relevant for this topic: we are talking about PHP session files storing passwords in clear. The topic isn't necessarily that specific, considering this is the pmwiki-users list, not pmwiki-devel. First, here's the part you chopped out... Sorry if it hurt you. I have been

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-15 Thread H. Fox
On 10/12/07, Maria McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I suppose if they could look at /tmp they could also look at config.php, and get my admin password, which probably should not be written out in plain text on the server either. FWIW cleartext passwords in config.php are avoidable if

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-15 Thread H. Fox
On 10/15/07, Christophe David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW cleartext passwords in config.php are avoidable if you use ?action=crypt and paste crypted passwords into the file. This is not relevant for this topic: we are talking about PHP session files storing passwords in clear. The topic

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-15 Thread Maria McKinley
On 10/15/07, H. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/15/07, Christophe David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW cleartext passwords in config.php are avoidable if you use ?action=crypt and paste crypted passwords into the file. This is not relevant for this topic: we are talking about PHP

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-12 Thread Christophe David
AFAIK, there's no *simple* mean to solve what you called an issue. Indeed, but it does not make it a non-issue ;-) I don't want to describe all the gory details here (you may see [1],[2] and the PHP documentation for references), but basically PmWiki uses the session data as a backup of what

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-12 Thread Dominique Faure
On 10/11/07, Maria McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/07, Maria McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/07, Christophe David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which temporary file contains the password ? The path for PHP session files is defined by session.save_path in php.ini.

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-12 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 08:43:22PM +0200, Christophe David wrote: AFAIK, there's no *simple* mean to solve what you called an issue. Indeed, but it does not make it a non-issue ;-) I would advocate for a reasonable extra effort to at least not *STORE* the passwords in clear in PHP session

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-12 Thread Maria McKinley
On 10/12/07, Dominique Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/07, Maria McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/07, Maria McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/07, Christophe David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which temporary file contains the password ? The path for PHP

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-12 Thread Christophe David
Indeed, but it does not make it a non-issue ;-) To briefly answer the above discussion: the plan is that PmWiki will change the way it manages passwords so that they aren't held in cleartext in the session data. In addition, there will be an $EnableSessionPasswords configuration variable

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-10 Thread St�phane Heckel
Christophe David wrote : When using AuthUser, PmWIki stores the user password in clear in a session variable. Therefore, the user password can be read very easily by anyone who has access to the server. which temporary file contains the password ? I can check my PmWiki/AuthUser/ldap

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-10 Thread Christophe David
which temporary file contains the password ? The path for PHP session files is defined by session.save_path in php.ini. (phpinfo() should give you the settings on your system.) Details on http://www.php.net/session . The files are plain text with all variables stored in clear. Thank you for

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-10 Thread Maria McKinley
On 10/10/07, Christophe David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which temporary file contains the password ? The path for PHP session files is defined by session.save_path in php.ini. (phpinfo() should give you the settings on your system.) Details on http://www.php.net/session . The files are

Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWIki AuthUser passwords stored in clear in PHPsession files

2007-10-10 Thread Maria McKinley
On 10/10/07, Maria McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/07, Christophe David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which temporary file contains the password ? The path for PHP session files is defined by session.save_path in php.ini. (phpinfo() should give you the settings on your system.)