Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-05-04 Thread Ronald J Kimball
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 10:07:46PM -0600, Karl Williamson wrote: On 04/26/2011 10:51 AM, Allison Randal wrote: How about adding some modifiers to the PseudoPod tags, such as: =row center =row right I'm thinking this would mean that the first column in the first row would be

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-05-04 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-05-04 03:16 PM, Ronald J Kimball wrote: =cell Jcenter Jspan 2 This is a wide, centered cell! What if you want a cell to span two columns and two rows at the same time? =cell Jcenter Jmiddle Jrowspan 2 jcolspan 2 paragraph -- Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, Shawn

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-26 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/25/2011 08:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: On 04/23/2011 11:53 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote: On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: I was thinking that PseudoPod implemented most of what might be needed, and so why not ship that. Its table spec looks quite simple, and

Re: Bad `=for` spec (WAS: How can one put a table into a pod)

2011-04-26 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/24/2011 06:19 AM, Shawn H Corey wrote: I have just taken a look at this. They totally screwed up `=for`. A `=for` paragraph does not need a `=end for`. That was a decision made by the early developers of PseudoPod, and I kept it in my implementation for backward compatibility in

Re: Bad `=for` spec (WAS: How can one put a table into a pod)

2011-04-26 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-04-26 01:06 PM, Allison Randal wrote: It's kind of fundamental to the nature of subclassing that you can override any behavior you want.:) The nicest thing about standards is that everyone can make their own. -- Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, Shawn Confusion is the first

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-25 Thread Karl Williamson
On 04/23/2011 11:53 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote: On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: I was thinking that PseudoPod implemented most of what might be needed, and so why not ship that. Its table spec looks quite simple, and perhaps sufficient. +1 However, in thinking about

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-25 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Apr 25, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: However, in thinking about this some more, I think we need to be able to at least specify centered column headings, and spans. This is easily done with html and tbl. But they'er not Pod, are they? Best, David

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-25 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Apr 25, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Yes, but my assumption is that the discussion here is about inventing POD syntax to represent tables natively, and to do that we have to figure out what the requirements are and confirm that it's viable to convert such POD tables into our most

Re: Bad `=for` spec (WAS: How can one put a table into a pod)

2011-04-24 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-04-23 08:23 PM, Allison Randal wrote: The table formatting it uses is demonstrated in: http://search.cpan.org/~arandal/Pod-PseudoPod-0.16/lib/Pod/PseudoPod/Tutorial.pod#Tables I have just taken a look at this. They totally screwed up `=for`. A `=for` paragraph does not need a `=end

How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Karl Williamson
I don't know how to put a table into a pod. One can simulate it by using as-is formatting, but it's not very good. The documentation in perlpod seems to indicate that in =begin html brFigure 1.brIMG SRC=figure1.pngbr =end html

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Karl Williamson
On 04/23/2011 01:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: I don't know how to put a table into a pod. One can simulate it by using as-is formatting, but it's not very good. The documentation in perlpod seems to indicate that in =begin html brFigure

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/23/2011 03:12 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: On 04/23/2011 01:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: I don't know how to put a table into a pod. One can simulate it by using as-is formatting, but it's not very good. There also doesn't appear to be a way to extend the pod language in a backwards

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Karl Williamson
On 04/23/2011 06:23 PM, Allison Randal wrote: On 04/23/2011 03:12 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: On 04/23/2011 01:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: I don't know how to put a table into a pod. One can simulate it by using as-is formatting, but it's not very good. There also doesn't appear to be a way

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Karl Williamson pub...@khwilliamson.com writes: It's worse than I thought. I ran some experiments. It appears that the various formatters don't recognize 'text', and so there's no way to specify a fall back. Perhaps there is a 'text' formatter. I don't know what it would be. pod2text

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Apr 23, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: That explains how to do it. Thanks. I would like something like this for the core Perl 5 documentation. Are there reasons besides inertia for this to not be shipped with the Perl core? Tuits. If you or someone else would like to propose

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Karl Williamson
On 04/23/2011 09:58 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Karl Williamsonpub...@khwilliamson.com writes: It's worse than I thought. I ran some experiments. It appears that the various formatters don't recognize 'text', and so there's no way to specify a fall back. Perhaps there is a 'text' formatter. I

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Tom Christiansen
Karl, sorry, I don't know how deal with tables in pod. I always just include pod-embedded =for tbl tables for the books and let the production crew handle it. That's not a solution that works here, though. --tom

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Karl Williamson pub...@khwilliamson.com writes: I used to be considered a [nt]roff guru. I would still rather use it than MS Word, but I find the Linux implementations lacking, and actually don't have much need to write documents. Anyway, I could easily write the Pod::Man part (famous last

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Karl Williamson
On 04/23/2011 10:13 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote: On Apr 23, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: That explains how to do it. Thanks. I would like something like this for the core Perl 5 documentation. Are there reasons besides inertia for this to not be shipped with the Perl core?

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: I was thinking that PseudoPod implemented most of what might be needed, and so why not ship that. Its table spec looks quite simple, and perhaps sufficient. +1 tbl's is also pretty simple; it allows, without my looking at the